Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[Greek_Patriot]

And apparently to you and the other accolytes the MM is great and nothing has to change. Ok.

[ColonelPete]

15 minutes ago, Greek_Patriot said:

And apparently to you and the other accolytes the MM is great and nothing has to change. Ok.

Only in your imagination.

[ForlornSailor]

1 hour ago, 159Hunter said:

Yes, this is one battle (I can dig up more, but frankly not worth my time) and yes I carried. But that's what you have to do with these teams.

I aint a unicum player, so maybe I can carry one in 10 such battles, but it does happen. So if your attitude is: MM monitor shows I will lose, then you won't win.

It's all down to your attitude.

 

Indeed here lies all the truth. By logic and mathematics one will be in the team with the lower winrate every second game. thats what people like @Darkeid and our @Greek_Patriot need to understand. They keep posting screenshots as if this is some sort of evidence that mm is rigged against them. Yet this is how it looks for each of us all the time aswell. I seriously think, they dont get it. But Greek Patriot showed serious lack in understanding of mathematics earlier so Im not surprised.

 

And yea, carrying such games indeed makes the difference if you are a 50% player (or below) or you start to climb above 50%. its as simple as that.

 

Also: using matchmaking monitor indeed does nothing but hurt yourself. Not sure how it helps when you rage at the start of the game "oh im gonna lose" then dont put in any efford just to lose and say "Ha! I was right!" how does it help oneself?

[Greek_Patriot]

Yes i saw your "critic" about the MM. 151 pages and you groupies haven't made a single comment about the lameness of the MM but instead you constantly defending it! You guys really put WG in a tight spot with your critisism.

[ForlornSailor]

2 minutes ago, Greek_Patriot said:

Yes i saw your "critic" about the MM. 151 pages and you groupies haven't made a single comment about the lameness of the MM but instead you constantly defending it! You guys really put WG in a tight spot with your critisism.

 

You have anything else to say then constantly insulting people? last 3 pages is a "greek patriot insults everyone that doesnt agree with him" show. So its you who draggs this discussion down to a level, where its no longer a discussion.

 

and btw: people like you would only be happy, once you have all super unicums on your team every time and win 100% of the games. The moment you lose one game because the enemys has 0,1% more at some statistic you gonna start to hate & flame here again.

[Greek_Patriot]

Just now, ForlornSailor said:

 

Indeed here lies all the truth. By logic and mathematics one will be in the team with the lower winrate every second game. thats what people like @Darkeid and our @Greek_Patriot need to understand. They keep posting screenshots as if this is some sort of evidence that mm is rigged against them. Yet this is how it looks for each of us all the time aswell. I seriously think, they dont get it. But Greek Patriot showed serious lack in understanding of mathematics earlier so Im not surprised.

 

And yea, carrying such games indeed makes the difference if you are a 50% player (or below) or you start to climb above 50%. its as simple as that.

 

Also: using matchmaking monitor indeed does nothing but hurt yourself. Not sure how it helps when you rage at the start of the game "oh im gonna lose" then dont put in any efford just to lose and say "Ha! I was right!" how does it help oneself?

Did i post a battle post? NO! So get your facts straight and dont lie. Or should i post your solo stats AGAIN "mr.skilled player" and laugh all together with them?

[ForlornSailor]

1 minute ago, Greek_Patriot said:

Or should i post your solo stats AGAIN "mr.skilled player" and laugh all together with them?

do it. show again how you dont understand numbers and logic.

[Greek_Patriot]

1 minute ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

You have anything else to say then constantly insulting people? last 3 pages is a "greek patriot insults everyone that doesnt agree with him" show. So its you who draggs this discussion down to a level, where its no longer a discussion.

 

and btw: people like you would only be happy, once you have all super unicums on your team every time and win 100% of the games. The moment you lose one game because the enemys has 0,1% more at some statistic you gonna start to hate & flame here again.

Anything to say about the 151 pages with no critisism on the MM or is that lowering the level too? Just saying

[Greek_Patriot]

Just now, ForlornSailor said:

do it. show again how you dont understand numbers and logic.

I understand better than you "mr.skilled player".

[159Hunter]

@Greek_Patriot By all means enlighten me as to what should be done to fix MM?

[Greek_Patriot]

AGAIN? 151 pages and you ask to tell AGAIN? Im not even gonna try to explain AGAIN

[ForlornSailor]

Guess we need to add "I dont know what a forum is for" to the list... incredible.

[ColonelPete]

Vor 23 Minuten, Greek_Patriot sagte:

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Yes, we know that the MM does not give you wins. That is what most of the people are complaining about. But that is not what the MM is for.

[Greek_Patriot]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Yes, we know that the MM does not give you wins. That is what most of the people are complaining about. But that is not what the MM is for.

You dont "know" it. You just defend it every time no matter the arguments. No improvement can occur when you refuse to see the problem. Anyway keep defending a lame mm and lets see where that leads the game. Maybe when they start losing money they will wake up, but then it will probably be to late.

[SkipperCH]

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[ColonelPete]

Just now, Greek_Patriot said:

You dont "know" it. You just defend it every time no matter the arguments. No improvement can occur when you refuse to see the problem. Anyway keep defending a lame mm and lets see where that leads the game. Maybe when they start losing money they will wake up, but then it will probably be to late.

I do know. It is obvious. Players come here when they lose, rarely when they win. And that is the problem. Players do not come with arguments, they whine.

The problem is not the MM, but that players reach higher Tiers too quickly and can stay there without much effort.

[Greek_Patriot]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

I do know. It is obvious. Players come here when they lose, rarely when they win. And that is the problem. Players do not come with arguments, they whine.

The problem is not the MM, but that players reach higher Tiers too quickly and can stay there without much effort.

You dont. You assume and take for granted whatever BS WG says. And when people come and give arguments you try to turn the discussion into something else. And the best part is for losing you even gave blame on the "psychology" of a player after seeing the chance of winning of a battle before the battle. Ridiculus. Anyway nothing comes out of it. Continue to defend WG and discredit anyone that -god forbid- tries to say something different than WG.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Greek_Patriot said:

You dont. You assume and take for granted whatever BS WG says.

WG never said that...

1 minute ago, Greek_Patriot said:

And the best part is for losing you even gave blame on the "psychology" of a player after seeing the chance of winning of a battle before the battle.

You failed to understand what I wrote. I did not blame him for losing that one battle. I told him that using such tools can give you a negative expectation towards the outcome of the battle and this can lead to losing battles that you could have won otherwise.

[Greek_Patriot]

Negative expectation? Seriously? You are not giving an exam dude. You just play a game. No point in trying i see.

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, Greek_Patriot said:

Negative expectation? Seriously? You are not giving an exam dude. You just play a game. No point in trying i see.

The effect of negative and positive thinking is well documented.

[Seepheerd]

Regarding to the win/lose in clan battles I'd say that slightly different (let's say 10%)  wr doesn't really counts. 

[ForlornSailor]

1 hour ago, Greek_Patriot said:

And when people come and give arguments you try to turn the discussion into something else.

 

YOU ask for Arguments? The guy that hasnt brought up one himself? Only insults als tin-foil to cover the entire earth twice?

 

1 hour ago, Greek_Patriot said:

discredit anyone that -god forbid- tries to say something different

That would be you. 100-freakin-%.

 

 

[159Hunter]

4 hours ago, Greek_Patriot said:

AGAIN? 151 pages and you ask to tell AGAIN? Im not even gonna try to explain AGAIN

I have yet to read your solution. All you did was complain and call other WG groupies.

No solution though

[Greek_Patriot]

2 hours ago, 159Hunter said:

I have yet to read your solution. All you did was complain and call other WG groupies.

No solution though

And you wont cause you already have 151 pages to read the suggestions the players made including my own.

[159Hunter]

10 minutes ago, Greek_Patriot said:

And you wont cause you already have 151 pages to read the suggestions the players made including my own.

You have made no suggestions. All you do is complain.