Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[Darkeid]

BALANS episode 3 !!

[Darkeid]

 

On 9/15/2020 at 5:46 AM, 159Hunter said:

@ForlornSailor is a WG groupie? That's new to me. He has voiced enough concerns on these forums about certain game aspects.

It's not because he doesn't see eye to eye with your beliefs that he's a groupie.

Not only him , Colonel Pete, GarrusBrutus, Dfens666 always gang up to name and shame anyone that accuses the existing MM of failing. Feel free to look the 150 pages of this thread and see which faces are the "valiant defenders of the broken". Sadly 150 pages of ppl providing negative feedback and still no official WG address to the matter. Unfortunately? The matter has started to appear more frequently in FB wows groups. Maybe if WG starts seeing decreasing monthly cashflows and new player accounts they might decide to actually improve it. 

[ForlornSailor]

3 minutes ago, Darkeid said:

The matter has started to appear more frequently in FB wows groups.

 

Facebook - the place where humanities finest gather :)

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, Darkeid said:

 

Not only him , Colonel Pete, GarrusBrutus, Dfens666 always gang up to name and shame anyone that accuses the existing MM of failing. Feel free to look the 150 pages of this thread and see which faces are the "valiant defenders of the broken". Sadly 150 pages of ppl providing negative feedback and still no official WG address to the matter. Unfortunately? The matter has started to appear more frequently in FB wows groups. Maybe if WG starts seeing decreasing monthly cashflows and new player accounts they might decide to actually improve it. 

That is because you have a different understanding of failing.

You want from the MM to give you wins. It does not. That is a fail for you. But that is not the purpose of the MM.

[Maris_Piper]

15 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

Facebook - the place where humanities finest gather

 I thought that was Tw@tter My Bad

 

 

[Darkeid]

Balans!! 4 out of 10 matches this time are badly imbalanced



Oh , don't waste your time replying. I blocked all 4 of you around 30-40pages ago. Better yet , if you are not connected to WG in any professional kind don't bother replying for my sake.

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, Darkeid said:

Oh , don't waste your time replying. I blocked all 4 of you around 30-40pages ago. Better yet , if you are not connected to WG in any professional kind don't bother replying for my sake.

Do not worry, the reply is not for you. I wonder how one can think that less than 2% points of winrate difference are badly imbalanced.

[Maris_Piper]

Does not the very act of posting on an open Forum make that post open to comment, just a thought. Also Making a statement on open forum leaves one open to differing opinions and as on any forum related to game content some will be die hard fans and others seriel detractors both have a right to their opinions and after a time it's not hard to see who's who, The Nature of the Beast so to speak, Heat and Kitchen do spring to mind though.

[DFens_666]

7 minutes ago, motor_g_b said:

Does not the very act of posting on an open Forummake that post open to comment, just a thought

 

They want to create their own echochambers, like twitter, so they are safe from all heretics who dont believe the same thing they do.

 

10 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Do not worry, the reply is not for you. I wonder how one can think that less than 2% points of winrate difference are badly imbalanced.

He would probably complain about anything that he can find.

Like 1 guy has more WR in T1 ships *UNBALANCED*

 

18 minutes ago, Darkeid said:

Balans!! 4 out of 10 matches this time are badly imbalanced

 

I think quitting the game would be a better option for you at this point. We just came to terms how MM works - and you dont. And WG said 100 times that it will stay like this.

[GarrusBrutus]

Sorry did someone say my name? I was busy enjoying my endless winstreak, kindly provided by my personal WG assistant, and praising WG on every possible medium (that I get paid for by the way). 

[Maris_Piper]

2 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Sorry did someone say my name? I was busy enjoying my endless winstreak, kindly provided by my personal WG assistant, and praising WG on every possible medium (that I get paid for by the way). 

Can you get your WG PA to take my RNG  off the Kick His Arse Setting  Pleeeeeease Dude

[159Hunter]

3 hours ago, Darkeid said:

 

Not only him , Colonel Pete, GarrusBrutus, Dfens666 always gang up to name and shame anyone that accuses the existing MM of failing. Feel free to look the 150 pages of this thread and see which faces are the "valiant defenders of the broken". Sadly 150 pages of ppl providing negative feedback and still no official WG address to the matter. Unfortunately? The matter has started to appear more frequently in FB wows groups. Maybe if WG starts seeing decreasing monthly cashflows and new player accounts they might decide to actually improve it. 

If they really name and shame you should report their posts. Forum mods do a good job of sorting those out.

[zekai7498]

16 saat önce, GarrusBrutus dedi:

"Back in October 2016, Wargaming introduced the first British ship line of the game, the British light cruisers. Alongside them also arrived a certain premium ship… This ship was HMS Belfast, sitting at Tier VII with the quite… unique combination of having a Smoke Generator, a Hydroacoustic Search AND a Surveillance Radar. "

He didnt use radar anyway:)

[zekai7498]

A cv player from T10 battle,he was of course in my team,we have lost.The MM is the only responsible of this defeat,any team would lose because of him.A loss from the start...

150 pages of complainment standing here,still nothing is changing.We dont want this kind of trolls screw the game.

You actively answering but not to solve the problem,you dont accept its existence.Think something about it,quit denying,make sense...

So what is this forum for?

[ForlornSailor]

29 minutes ago, zekai7498 said:

A cv player from T10 battle,he was of course in my team,we have lost.The MM is the only responsible of this defeat,any team would lose because of him.A loss from the start...

 

So the player is at fault, not the matchmaker - unless you want the matchmaker to ban those players when they enter the queue. Which I would agree with :D

 

30 minutes ago, zekai7498 said:

You actively answering but not to solve the problem,you dont accept its existence.Think something about it,quit denying,make sense...

So what is this forum for?

 

When you look at what WG has done over the past 2 years, you will come to the conclusion, that they dont care about bad players in high tier games. They started selling T9 premiums, even a T10 was available for cash without any skill check, they made the economy easier, so underperforming players can stay on T10, they kept introducing tools and mechanics to make grinding more easy, thus people reach T10 faster...

Conclusion: give up. what you are trying to achieve is not going to happen. we are moving in the other direction. As sad as this is.

[ColonelPete]

51 minutes ago, zekai7498 said:

The MM is the only responsible of this defeat,any team would lose because of him.

Which is obviously wrong again as 39% of his teams won with him...

[zekai7498]

17 dakika önce, ForlornSailor dedi:

 

So the player is at fault, not the matchmaker - unless you want the matchmaker to ban those players when they enter the queue. Which I would agree with :D

 

 

When you look at what WG has done over the past 2 years, you will come to the conclusion, that they dont care about bad players in high tier games. They started selling T9 premiums, even a T10 was available for cash without any skill check, they made the economy easier, so underperforming players can stay on T10, they kept introducing tools and mechanics to make grinding more easy, thus people reach T10 faster...

Conclusion: give up. what you are trying to achieve is not going to happen. we are moving in the other direction. As sad as this is.

Well,that direction will show us how a beautiful game turned into a kindergarden in couple of years.

[159Hunter]

3 hours ago, zekai7498 said:

A cv player from T10 battle,he was of course in my team,we have lost.The MM is the only responsible of this defeat,any team would lose because of him.A loss from the start...

And yet 39% of his teams still manage to win. So no, this was not a loss from the start.

An up hill struggle: not denying that

[Greek_Patriot]

12 hours ago, MadBadDave said:

So the MM is fixed is it ?

 

T6-8 with 2 T8 cv's per side, thats a NO then.

 

WG instead of focussing on transformers you need to friggin transform the game, but hey were talking about a nation with about as much naval prowess  as a wet turd.

 

Next update the only thing they fix is smurf camo for the ships. Which you will have to pay to get it of course! Hahaha

[Greek_Patriot]

11 hours ago, Darkeid said:

1st match of the day. Balans !!

2 hidden stats players , a player with 38 battles plus another with 800 battles vs .... well , stats 

Predetermined loss regardless. Fix this awful matchmaker pls. This is the major problem of the game (after cheaters ofc).
 

The problem apparently for WG and its groupies is the people complaining for the MM and not the MM itself.

[ColonelPete]

32 minutes ago, Greek_Patriot said:

The problem apparently for WG and its groupies is the people complaining for the MM and not the MM itself.

Did you not read? Cheaters are apparantly a bigger problem than the MM...

[159Hunter]

@Darkeid here is another balans at work . And yes ,I calculated it as I don't need a MM monitor to spot  (un)reliable teammates. [for ship WR I discarted the 0 % GK as it was the result of one battle ]

Yes, this is one battle (I can dig up more, but frankly not worth my time) and yes I carried. But that's what you have to do with these teams.

I aint a unicum player, so maybe I can carry one in 10 such battles, but it does happen. So if your attitude is: MM monitor shows I will lose, then you won't win.

It's all down to your attitude.

 

PS: @ForlornSailor, I can give you the names for your blacklist if you need them, I most certainly added 11 new players to mine ).

Edit: @DFens_666 stop mocking my mad Paint skillz :@ 

[DFens_666]

22 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

Edit: @DFens_666 stop mocking my mad Paint skillz :@ 

 

I made my own

 

 

I was actually extremely baffled that we won this one. And despite only being 4th, i still claim a huge part of that victory because i blocked the cap for several minutes. I could have chosen not to enter the cap, and we would have lost guaranteed, by the Repu camping behind an island to get the cap. The Game ran full 20 minutes, and we only just won by getting a kill like 10 sec before the end. Also by sitting in the cap, i killed one ship and drew fire from 3 enemy ships. So much for, you get rewarded for playing for the team ...

And i still had 190k damage aswell, i guess Mino and DM have tons of XP from resetting the cap.

 

And the avg WR on my team is heavily scewed by my own numbers, since i increase them by 2% and 3% respectively. So basicly my team was much worse than the enemy team, if i exclude myself.

Also our Moskva, which should have been the 2nd best player, pretty much suicided first blood because "there were no DDs and he is a radar Cruiser"

[Greek_Patriot]

13 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Did you not read? Cheaters are apparantly a bigger problem than the MM...

So the MM is fine and all the problems come from cheaters? And one more thing. Who is to blame that cheaters are in the game? Mine? Or those who complain? Again nothing wrong about WG. Keep up the good work. The bosses are watching.

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, Greek_Patriot said:

So the MM is fine and all the problems come from cheaters?

According to Darkeid. He seems to be an expert on problems in WoWs.