[NEKOM] Kuraiko Players 7 posts 3,725 battles Report post #76 Posted November 28, 2020 Just leaving this comment here to dig out this thread because that matchmaking problem still exist. It's not necessary to match +2 for there are enough online players. If not, I'd rather wait 5 minutes. Also, if there are not enough players in general to change the current match making, I want to see actual numbers from WG, otherwise there's no good reasoning to keep +2 MM. +0 should be the priority and if less players are in queue +1 should be the maximum match making. Having to fight ships with tiers +2 higher isn't fun, isn't fair and however good a player you are, you'll not be very efficient in such a match where you're on the lower end. A game should be fun and fair. Where's the reasoning behind the current match making? Can WG answer this question? I doubt it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #77 Posted November 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Kuraiko said: Having to fight ships with tiers +2 higher isn't fun, isn't fair and however good a player you are, you'll not be very efficient in such a match where you're on the lower end. A game should be fun and fair. Where's the reasoning behind the current match making? Can WG answer this question? I doubt it. I had fun and maybe it was a bit unfair for some top Tier guys, but that is their problem: Spoiler And yes, they answered that question often enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adm_Andre Players 280 posts 586 battles Report post #78 Posted November 28, 2020 Vor 9 Stunden, Kuraiko sagte: Just leaving this comment here to dig out this thread because that matchmaking problem still exist. It's not really a problem... on the contrary you receive bonuses on XP (and credits?) if you are damaging higher tier ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,471 battles Report post #79 Posted November 28, 2020 10 minuti fa, ColonelPete ha scritto: I had fun and maybe it was a bit unfair for some top Tier guys, but that is their problem: Nascondi contenuti And yes, they answered that question often enough. you played really good wow i can't do that usually when uptiered (i'm lower tier) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #80 Posted November 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, arquata2019 said: you played really good wow i can't do that usually when uptiered (i'm lower tier) Spoiler From today: The high Tier ships dropped the ball by completly abandoning a flank and/or playing badly. One Tier X started even complaining about the other players. Three Tier VIII top the scoreboard... And even on the enemy team two of the top three are Tier VIII. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,471 battles Report post #81 Posted November 28, 2020 22 minuti fa, ColonelPete ha scritto: Nascondi contenuti From today: The high Tier ships dropped the ball by completly abandoning a flank and/or playing badly. One Tier X started even complaining about the other players. Three Tier VIII top the scoreboard... And even on the enemy team two of the top three are Tier VIII. woah.. how much damage??? you're losing and you got 1602 base exp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #82 Posted November 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, arquata2019 said: woah.. how much damage??? you're losing and you got 1602 base exp If you are lowtier you have to do way less to get more XP. If you can inflict damage to TX ships, you will have often good XP even with not so much damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #83 Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, arquata2019 said: woah.. how much damage??? you're losing and you got 1602 base exp around 123k 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T0L0S ∞ Players 180 posts 12,663 battles Report post #84 Posted November 28, 2020 12 hours ago, Kuraiko said: Just leaving this comment here to dig out this thread because that matchmaking problem still exist. It's not necessary to match +2 for there are enough online players. If not, I'd rather wait 5 minutes. Also, if there are not enough players in general to change the current match making, I want to see actual numbers from WG, otherwise there's no good reasoning to keep +2 MM. +0 should be the priority and if less players are in queue +1 should be the maximum match making. Having to fight ships with tiers +2 higher isn't fun, isn't fair and however good a player you are, you'll not be very efficient in such a match where you're on the lower end. A game should be fun and fair. Where's the reasoning behind the current match making? Can WG answer this question? I doubt it. I wonder how much you complain when you're top tier and you are farming lower tiers. My guess is, you don't. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perekotypole Players 511 posts 8,639 battles Report post #85 Posted November 28, 2020 Am 17.2.2019 um 17:24, _Ghostship_ sagte: I played 9 games today and all of them was +2 T6 vs 8 T8 vs 10 Those are mutually exclusive. You just had bad luck, MM system doesn't hate you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #86 Posted November 28, 2020 Get ot in your heads: +2 mm helps potatoes as well. Why are pure tier X games annoying? Cause people play on an equal level shipwise. A good player can manage, a bad player can't. He needs the extra edge a higher tier ship gives him. So he will struggle so much harder to reliably get things done. Get a spread out mm and he might be able to reliably get something done against a lower tier ship. When being bottom tier he will struggle harder, but who cares. He already struggles fighting equal tier ships. So he's useless anyways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,535 battles Report post #87 Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, 159Hunter said: Get ot in your heads: +2 mm helps potatoes as well. Why are pure tier X games annoying? Cause people play on an equal level shipwise. A good player can manage, a bad player can't. He needs the extra edge a higher tier ship gives him. So he will struggle so much harder to reliably get things done. Get a spread out mm and he might be able to reliably get something done against a lower tier ship. When being bottom tier he will struggle harder, but who cares. He already struggles fighting equal tier ships. So he's useless anyways. And that is what makes bad players keep coming back: that one game in X amount of games where they can be the hero TVIII slaughtering all the TVI's and feel really good about themselves. Then they get frustrated by being uptiered against TX again and again so they buy ARP Yamato to be the hero in every game. Smart business model if you ask me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,486 battles Report post #88 Posted November 29, 2020 - Are those games where you are uptierd two tiers ideal? NO. - Can they be annoying as hell when playing bottom tier? Yes (yesterday in stock Pyotr in a T7 game facing all T7 (and 1 T6) opponents on your flank. All I then try to do is (a) stay alive and (b) try to contribute somehow. Especially (b) is easier said than done. - Should it be taken out? No. It is a challenge, try and improve. - Is this the biggest problem in MM around? Definitely NOT. Much bigger issues are completely unbalanced teams (this morning on NA: 3 man Wooky division (with wooky himself as part of it) vs no division on our side, guy who ranked out on enemy team, and two others who got further in ranked than any of our own. Yeah, a 42k damage game in Kotovsky with a single kill got 2nd spot on the team. Also think of things like completely unbalanced radars and such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NEKOM] Kuraiko Players 7 posts 3,725 battles Report post #89 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 2:32 PM, T0L0S said: I wonder how much you complain when you're top tier and you are farming lower tiers. My guess is, you don't. I do complain even then. It's just boring as well and not as rewarding to sink a ship two tiers below myself than having a "fair" match. On 11/29/2020 at 1:40 PM, Dutchy_2019 said: - Are those games where you are uptierd two tiers ideal? NO. - Can they be annoying as hell when playing bottom tier? Yes (yesterday in stock Pyotr in a T7 game facing all T7 (and 1 T6) opponents on your flank. All I then try to do is (a) stay alive and (b) try to contribute somehow. Especially (b) is easier said than done. - Should it be taken out? No. It is a challenge, try and improve. - Is this the biggest problem in MM around? Definitely NOT. Much bigger issues are completely unbalanced teams (this morning on NA: 3 man Wooky division (with wooky himself as part of it) vs no division on our side, guy who ranked out on enemy team, and two others who got further in ranked than any of our own. Yeah, a 42k damage game in Kotovsky with a single kill got 2nd spot on the team. Also think of things like completely unbalanced radars and such. You're right. There are other problems. Does WG do something to improve MM? Do they even care, as long money flows? I honestly doubt it. I like the game, but this just makes me angry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #90 Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Kuraiko said: I do complain even then. It's just boring as well and not as rewarding to sink a ship two tiers below myself than having a "fair" match. We rarely see it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #91 Posted December 1, 2020 Holy RNGesus on nails! Necroing almost a 2 year old thread about MM. My moderator senses are tingling! Please do not necro... and please use MM thread. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
