[RATM] Staines_upon_Thames Players 113 posts 30,391 battles Report post #326 Posted February 2, 2019 REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE CV CV CV CV CV iTs A Ship Game NOT PLANE CV CV Don't turn it to crap CV CV CV REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE Ruining DD GamePlay 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #327 Posted February 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, ___R_O_C_K_Y___ said: REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE CV CV CV CV CV iTs A Ship Game NOT PLANE CV CV Don't turn it to crap CV CV CV REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE Ruining DD GamePlay CV is a ship, deal with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gael_Louel Players 2 posts Report post #328 Posted February 2, 2019 cv update failure since today. planes in flight are going crazy , just after take off they start moving oddly and then buzzin' around like crazy mosquitoes.. aiming becomes out of this world kind of sh*t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branovic Beta Tester 28 posts 3,284 battles Report post #329 Posted February 2, 2019 the new CVs are dead i was top tier in my Shokaku and i was only able to make one pass when torping enemy Amagi all my planes died how is this fair to me as a CV player ??? this new update is a joke 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X0T] Flaming_Bunny Players 392 posts 27,112 battles Report post #330 Posted February 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: AA rework... Scenario 1: Total Fail. I have 2 squadrons of aircraft coming in to my area. In the 2 squadrons of aircraft coming in we have one squadron of fighters and one squadron of torpedo bombers......... as the torpedo bombers are the ones that will sink me I want to target them first.. Your rework does not allow me to target the most lethal planes first... SUX, DUMB oh look DEAD!!!... I will not shift to play the CV and until you sort out this pile of rubbish I will not spend another penny on this game.... ........................... I agree that I miss the old ability to "Ctrl-mark" planes for priority target fire. But without the Captain skill "Manual fire control for AA" (4 skill points) applied to the commander , the ctrl-marking of enemy planes has absolutely zero impact on your AA fire. AA Guns are and always have been an automatic function (unless you have the "Manual fire control for AA"-commander skill. Additionally, your choice of writing in super-sized fonts will simply get your message ignored due to the fact that your post looks like you are screaming and as such are not thinking clearly. Please try to be constructive and logical when providing feedback in this thread. We all agree that there is a lot that needs improvement in this build. And I know for a fact that Wargaming is listening to all the feedback. I am absolutely sure that there will be tweaks to this new patch, coming as soon as possible Best Regards Me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CO-DK] JokieFfm Players 13 posts 3,605 battles Report post #331 Posted February 2, 2019 Now everbody talks how it ruined playing DDs, but what about cruisers? I play british cruisers who are actually DD leaders. Or the german DD killer cruisers. There are no DDs to escort or to hunt. And spamming BBs with my small shells is a waste of time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UBN] InfinityIncarnate Players 127 posts 3,089 battles Report post #332 Posted February 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Rowboat_Cop said: Additionally, your choice of writing in super-sized fonts will simply get your message ignored due to the fact that your post looks like you are screaming and as such are not thinking clearly. Please try to be constructive and logical when providing feedback in this thread. We all agree that there is a lot that needs improvement in this build. Best Regards Me Doesn't matter, because WG has proven that they don't listen, and if they do listen then that is only to what they agree with, and it's not a new thing, they've got a reputation for not listening. Just consider how many were actually openly expressing that we did not want this rework, and what do they do? They make it, force it on us, then ask our opinions which they will ignore and pat themselves on the shoulders for a job well done, even though it isn't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X0T] Flaming_Bunny Players 392 posts 27,112 battles Report post #333 Posted February 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, InfinityIncarnate said: Doesn't matter, because WG has proven that they don't listen, and if they do listen then that is only to what they agree with, and it's not a new thing, they've got a reputation for not listening. Just consider how many were actually openly expressing that we did not want this rework, and what do they do? They make it, force it on us, then ask our opinions which they will ignore and pat themselves on the shoulders for a job well done, even though it isn't. .. The fact that this change/rework happened is because wargaming listened to the majority of the feedback :) Also, sorry WG, this is a thread for feedback, not a thread for arguing. Will not post any additional counter posts :) /Me 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharp1989 Players 5 posts 19,168 battles Report post #334 Posted February 2, 2019 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UBN] InfinityIncarnate Players 127 posts 3,089 battles Report post #335 Posted February 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rowboat_Cop said: The fact that this change/rework happened is because wargaming listened to the majority of the feedback :)Also, sorry WG, this is a thread for feedback, not a thread for arguing. Yeah? I don't think so, it only happened because they needed a console friendly carrier gameplay, which happened to fit nicely around people wanting carriers to be better balanced, people didn't want a rework, and certainly not like this one that has absolutely nothing to do with warship gameplay. There are many ways they easily could have balanced the old carrier gameplay and fixed the main issues WITHOUT even coming close to what they have forced on us now! Actually, this also feedback, and it's very constructive. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CSNL] Gen_Schneider [CSNL] Players 31 posts 14,287 battles Report post #336 Posted February 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rowboat_Cop said: .. The fact that this change/rework happened is because wargaming listened to the majority of the feedback :) Also, sorry WG, this is a thread for feedback, not a thread for arguing. Will not post any additional counter posts :) /Me Dude, you're either trolling or on WGs payroll.......... Now let me reply clearly to your first sentence: HHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.... lemme catch a breath........ HHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alphaburner Players 83 posts 17,041 battles Report post #337 Posted February 2, 2019 On 1/31/2019 at 3:18 PM, wilkatis_LV said: Quck one for everyone complaining about “too stronbg AA” (presumably the flak bursts) - ever thought of using your keyboard? I hear it has WASD buttons on it You sold instead of refunding them? Nice way to screw yourself m8. Should have gone to “inventory” and refunded all of them as you yourself need to do it in this case. Best you can try is to contact support and explain them that you “misclicked due to misunderstanding how the refunds work”, but chances of that being successful probably are near 0 Nope...you know they refund premiums, it was addressed in a previous patch. Just raise a ticket with support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #338 Posted February 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Rowboat_Cop said: I agree that I miss the old ability to "Ctrl-mark" planes for priority target fire. But without the Captain skill "Manual fire control for AA" (4 skill points) applied to the commander , the ctrl-marking of enemy planes has absolutely zero impact on your AA fire. AA Guns are and always have been an automatic function (unless you have the "Manual fire control for AA"-commander skill. Additionally, your choice of writing in super-sized fonts will simply get your message ignored due to the fact that your post looks like you are screaming and as such are not thinking clearly. Please try to be constructive and logical when providing feedback in this thread. We all agree that there is a lot that needs improvement in this build. And I know for a fact that Wargaming is listening to all the feedback. I am absolutely sure that there will be tweaks to this new patch, coming as soon as possible Best Regards Me Super size font indicates that I am shouting..of course I am shouting ..the torpedo planes I wanted to shoot down flew in to me and sank me because I couldn't target them.. I had the Manual AA skill and oh joy a few extra puffs.. still dead... The rework stinks..from now until WG fix this my money stays in my pocket. Oh and I have seen more people complaining than supporting so where this majority feedback came from is beyond me.. even your game testers voiced concerns.. but you believe what you like it's your game..but how will you run it without money? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #339 Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) *Edited Edited February 4, 2019 by VyNKaSMyN *This post has been edited by the moderation team due to inappropriate remarks. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #340 Posted February 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: A sub-47% WR DD main and a guy hiding Stats giving valuable input on balancing. Interesting. Or not. Btw. just repeating stupid statements or using caps doesn’t make it less stupid Is that all you've got to counter the arguement? Combined my DD average is over 54% my 47% WR is for all of my ships... So as I said that the best you can do? What are you a secret WG rep trying to put off people who say the rework is garbage.. you have alot of dissatisfied players to respond to so you're going to be busy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #341 Posted February 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: Is that all you've got to counter the arguement? Combined my DD average is over 54% my 47% WR is for all of my ships... So as I said that the best you can do? What are you a secret WG rep trying to put off people who say the rework is garbage.. you have alot of dissatisfied players to respond to so you're going to be busy. If you are really just dissatisfied than enter into a civilized discussion. That isn’t my impression though. You come across like a spoiled kid not getting its will and screaming until mummy comes to save it. In case that perception is wrong - just put in writing what your problem is. Rocket planes? Being spotted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OCTO] Zen71_sniper [OCTO] Players 1,268 posts 36,598 battles Report post #342 Posted February 2, 2019 43 minutes ago, Rowboat_Cop said: AA Guns are and always have been an automatic function (unless you have the "Manual fire control for AA"-commander skill. AFAIK, this is not true. It helped, but not as much if you have skilled enabled. Even in operation Dynamo, that was pointed out. Same as secondaries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Noif Weekend Tester 873 posts 6,620 battles Report post #343 Posted February 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, sharp1989 said: I would hope to have that kind damage but still... Shokaku's planes are terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #344 Posted February 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: If you are really just dissatisfied than enter into a civilized discussion. That isn’t my impression though. You come across like a spoiled kid not getting its will and screaming until mummy comes to save it. In case that perception is wrong - just put in writing what your problem is. Rocket planes? Being spotted? You come across like a person with their eyes closed their fingers in ears saying everything is okay. Weight of opinion in this forum shows it is not and people WILL stop spending money.. WG has been told what is wrong with the rework even before launching it. WG have admitted it is a work in progress so why make it public unfinished especially when people are paying real money for it... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #345 Posted February 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Migantium_Mashum said: You come across like a person with their eyes closed their fingers in ears saying everything is okay. Weight of opinion in this forum shows it is not and people WILL stop spending money.. WG has been told what is wrong with the rework even before launching it. WG have admitted it is a work in progress so why make it public unfinished especially when people are paying real money for it... Because they apparently felt that they couldn’t finalize it only behind closed doors. And I am not saying everything is fine. I do see that there is still work to be done. But I am positive about the overall concept and would like to support it so it can be finalized. So again - what is your problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UBN] InfinityIncarnate Players 127 posts 3,089 battles Report post #346 Posted February 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Because they apparently felt that they couldn’t finalize it only behind closed doors. And I am not saying everything is fine. I do see that there is still work to be done. But I am positive about the overall concept and would like to support it so it can be finalized. So again - what is your problem? This question isn't aimed at me specifically, but I'm going to be giving you an answer anyways! My problem with the rework, is the entire rework! I've been against this rework ever since it was made public what the rework was going to be, especially since this rework has nothing to do with carrier gameplay but everything to do about playing a simplified world of warplanes with very limited controls. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #347 Posted February 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, InfinityIncarnate said: This question isn't aimed at me specifically, but I'm going to be giving you an answer anyways! My problem with the rework, is the entire rework! I've been against this rework ever since it was made public what the rework was going to be, especially since this rework has nothing to do with carrier gameplay but everything to do about playing a simplified world of warplanes with very limited controls. Ok you made me curious. You played about 90 CV games out of your roughly 550 Random games. So you are still on the “fresher” side - nothing wrong with this and no insult intended. What exactly disturbs you with the new rework? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LNIXH] Cosimo_Botejara Players 144 posts 20,757 battles Report post #348 Posted February 2, 2019 1 minute ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Ok you made me curious. You played about 90 CV games out of your roughly 550 Random games. So you are still on the “fresher” side - nothing wrong with this and no insult intended. What exactly disturbs you with the new rework? Dear 1MajorKoenig, I think InfinityIncarnate explained it so clearly; He does NOT like to man a plane, he's in the game to man a SHIP. And his rage is cause no way to balance this, or to fix this, or to think about that as a bug. By the way I say to you that I am JUST in the same case he is. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WJDE] orzel286 Beta Tester 555 posts 8,741 battles Report post #349 Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Rowboat_Cop said: And I know for a fact that Wargaming is listening to all the feedback. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #350 Posted February 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Because they apparently felt that they couldn’t finalize it only behind closed doors. And I am not saying everything is fine. I do see that there is still work to be done. But I am positive about the overall concept and would like to support it so it can be finalized. So again - what is your problem? 1. When people are paying real money for a game pushing a half brained, half worked piece of crap down the throats of paying players is a great way to stop players spending money. 2. I cannot defend against specific groups of planes..so if I want to shoot at Torpedo bombers/rocket fighters only I cannot...the manual AA skill is now useless. 3. I cannot evade planes that fly at supersonic speeds once perma spotted I may as well just cut engines and let myself be slaughtered, because it will happen anyway. 4. A DD can no longer spot or cap without having half the team behind you for AA support. The team has lost its eyes.... 5. When people are paying real money for a game pushing a half brained, half worked piece of crap down the throats of paying players is a great way to stop people spending money.. What else are you not getting? You on the WG bonus list or something? WG have lost revenue from me and I dare say from many other players too so let's see how long they will keep this rework running... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites