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Yubari, the plane swatter is nerfed again?

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Way back when I bought the 3 ship package to get in the closed beta. All those three were quite good and fun to play. Over the many patches the Sims lost it effectiveness due to better rudder shifts on larger ships, the Gremy for some reason never really seemed to suffer the effects of newer patches. But my dear old favourite, the floating citadel with tinfoil rudder and engines has been stomped on nearly ever patch. This new patch is surprisingly no exception. The Yubari's base AA is 15. Yes 15. I did not realise how bad it had become. But not to worry, it has defensive fire, with a hit probability of between 72-77%. for short range and long range. Except it does nothing. Multiple attacks flew through my zones, and continued on their merry way regardless. I closed to the two carriers, and between fighting off a Phoenix, was within 3km, killed one, the other got away. Yubari shot done ONE plane the whole match, ONE, just ONE.  Got dive bombed and boom, dead (was low HP). Before the CV rework it was much effective as an AA platform. The defensive fire consumable appears useless.

 

I know it is low tier and most people don't care about tier 4. But to sell a product and treat it like this? Who do they think they are? Bethesda? EA? Activision?

 

Will any other Yubari owners please share their experiences with this new patch please.

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Wait till you try the Atlanta, the're already calls for a refund.

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I haven't played the Yubari this patch but I did go up against one with a T4 CV. It seemed to put out a lot of AA fire including flak and did a decent amount of damage to my squadron before I promptly buggered off and picked on something else. I didn't try dropping on it so I can't say anything about the short range AA but the long range can do some damage. With the rework shooting down planes is very much about CV player error, there isn't a solid mechanical basis to give an average plane kill expectancy. If a player flies in to flak he will lose a boatload of planes, if he dodges flak he will not lose many planes. You can't base it on a single game anymore. Give it a few more goes before you decide the Yubari is dead.

 

I agree with the general principle of buffing the Yubari though. 1.9s rudder shift or bust!

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1 hour ago, iFax said:

Wait till you try the Atlanta, the're already calls for a refund.

I tried the Atlanta, and had some epic games, all losses unfortunately. Knocking 30+ planes down each time.

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All Japanese cruisers have had their AA butchered, it's not even a self-defence tool now. Doiesn't surprise me that Yubari got shafted.

 

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The 5" gun can nuke entire squads with the single puff it shoots. The probability of a tier 4 CV player flying straight for you is about as high as the hit percentage given in the port stats for the gun, so for once what you see is what you get. :Smile_trollface: Japanese 25mm guns literally don't exist anymore though, so you're sailing a monitor. Katori faces the same predicament, but has a better AA gun and a fighter, and there's Myogi with 6 copies of Yubari's gun... yeah, Yubari needs a buff. I'd say you can probably still expect at least 1 air kill in every battle though, which is more than the 0 every other T4 cruiser achieves.

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Just played it, got swatted 2 minutes into the game for over half my health in one strike from a rocket equipped Hosho or was it maybe the Langly, I dunno. 

Def fire shot down 1 plane. So with 8k HP left i died pretty soon after that.

Hosho was the worlds first purpose built aircraft carrier launched in 1921, did they ever have rockets on them biplanes ? 

 

Edit: I looked it up, answer is no they didnt, Hosho carried a grand total of 15 planes, 9 fighters and 6 torpedo bombers 

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I just played a battle with my Langley against a Yubari chasing me down, I could barely touch him. I managed to record a total of 6,308 damage on him in exchange for 14 planes and my ship. I'm very far from being a good CV player but it appears to be working as intended as far as I could tell.

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1 minute ago, Strappster said:

I just played a battle with my Langley against a Yubari chasing me down, I could barely touch him. I managed to record a total of 6,308 damage on him in exchange for 14 planes and my ship. I'm very far from being a good CV player but it appears to be working as intended as far as I could tell.

That just shows how RNG it then cos just 30 min since my game

 

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Just now, Ronchabale said:

That just shows how RNG it then cos just 30 min since my game

 

Wasn't really the point I was trying to make, more that basing a reaction on a single result is worthless. But hey, you do you.

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6 hours ago, Aragathor said:

All Japanese cruisers have had their AA butchered, it's not even a self-defence tool now. Doiesn't surprise me that Yubari got shafted.

Yeah, it is as I feared too. :Smile_amazed:

 

Quite disheartening, considering that I am an avowed IJN fanboy and have so far enjoyed my navy, even given the basically crappy AA. But to make it even worse will make their entire ship lines (except for CV's, I presume) close to unplayable. Uhh.... :cap_wander_2::etc_red_button::etc_swear:

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1 minute ago, DanottiTR said:

seriously just killed 52 planes in my Atlanta ... just share the experience you have not what you have heard from the rumors ....

 

https://replayswows.com/replay/41145#stats

 

So you played against a bad CV that flew his planes near you without actually attacking you, not really indicative of anything. Wait a while until all CV players realise how ineffective your AA is if they actually try to torp you, then you will be singing a different song.

 

On topic - I played one game in my Yubari post-patch and, in all honesty, it didn't feel any weaker than it did pre-patch. I was escorting a division mate in his BB and I was able to kill every plane that tried to attack him.

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9 minutes ago, xxNihilanxx said:

 

So you played against a bad CV that flew his planes near you without actually attacking you, not really indicative of anything. Wait a while until all CV players realise how ineffective your AA is if they actually try to torp you, then you will be singing a different song.

 

On topic - I played one game in my Yubari post-patch and, in all honesty, it didn't feel any weaker than it did pre-patch. I was escorting a division mate in his BB and I was able to kill every plane that tried to attack him.

use the ''O'' button properly and you will see how you shred their planes ...yubari is weak ok but atlanta ,kutuzov AA specced deadly .That game may be lucky tough but it is easy to kill 20 anyways ...

I was quoting the other guy just rumoring upon others peoples experiences ...

 

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