Aircraft Carriers: Ship Replacement Rules - Discussion Thread

[deathsadow]

@MrConway The line regarding the Independence permanent camo is unclear for me:

 

"The camouflage for Tier VI aircraft carrier Independence is replaced by camouflage for Tier VI aircraft carrier Ranger. Camouflage from Tier VII aircraft carrier Ranger is purchased for its full value in doubloons."

 

Its clear that we get the Tier VI Ranger camo, but what is this part about purchasing the Tier VII Ranger camo?

[Catslave]

@MrConway

 

some more questions and rants:

- "Any associated XP earned by a ship that is to be converted will be transferred to a Tier I ship of the relevant nation."

so if i want to start carrier fresh, i suddenly have a useless T1 cruiser with 500k+ XP that i have to free using dubloons, even though i "farmed" those xp on T10 carriers or similar. Honestly the idea of just dumping everything (including captains and whatnot) on the completely useless T1 cruiser is crap. At least allow us to directly convert the xp to FXP, at a 1:10 rate if you want but almost anything is better then this. Esp "Carrier mains" will surely be happy to have the 5mil+ XP they have on their carriers sitting on the T1 cruiser of all things. (e.g. i'm missing 10 XP on my Shokaku or w/e , then the rework hits and if i loose the carrier, then all the xp i grinded towards the upgrade are dunked unto the T1 cruiser ... a ship that hits Elite status with like 400 XP and has absolutely no use outside of reaching T2)

Edit another idea would be to allow ppl to keep the xp on the respective ships (aka you have your 80k XP on Lexington even though you barelyhave the stock Ranger)

 

-"All Commanders specialized to for a particular ship that you wish to convert will be retrained and reassigned to a Tier I ship of the relevant nation."

See above, I am happily waiting for my 19pt Hakuryu captain to get nerfed to a 19pt Hashidate captain so i can spent 300k FXP or 500 dubloons to train him for something useful .... like maybe the Hakuryu when/if i unlock it again.

 

-"Permanent camouflages will be compensated for by their full price in doubloons."

So i have to make the tough choice: keep the carrier as is or permamently loose the time limited camouflage like the halloween camo or Ovechkin camo etc.... Instead of just "stealing" the camo forever (esp. considering how dubloons have become largely useless) it would be alot better to allow ppl to sell ship and camouflage seperately.

 

All in all there was several months of time to prepare the shift, so seeing the "we just delete everything and move spare stuff to the useless T1 cruiser" approach once again is ... sad. Or maybe we should be happy that we can at least opt to keep the premium and even tier carriers as is....

 

2 hours ago, MrConway said:

 

 

 

 

This is not a typo, as the XP is not currently free it will not be freed up when selling the ship. Captains can be retrained to another ship for free in the week following the update if you want to avoid this.

Saw this a bit late, can't find that in the wall of text called announcement. That's at least something assuming it works better then ... let's say the "buy T10 for credits in the arsenal on PT".

Well ... and everyone will be forced to log in and deal with all effected captains within this 1 week ... RIP to ppl being busy with work, life or family in that time.

... or did you actually have a brain fart and are referring to the free skill reset for carrier captains and captains with carrier related skills ? There is kinda a minor difference between resetting the skill points of a captain and between the ship specialization of a captain...

 

From the announcement:

• All Commanders of aircraft carriers placed at even Tiers will be retrained and transferred to new carriers of the same Tiers.
• All Commanders of aircraft carriers placed at odd Tiers will be retrained for the new carriers one Tier lower, and transferred to the Reserve. If there is no vacant place in the Reserve, an extra place will be added as required for each Commander.
• The skills of all Commanders of aircraft carriers will be reset.

• Commanders without specialization for aircraft carriers, but with any of the following skills mastered: "Dogfighting Expert", "Aircraft Servicing Expert", "Evasive Maneuver", "Expert Rear Gunner", "Emergency Takeoff", or "Air Supremacy", will have their skills reset.

• All Commanders specialized to for a particular ship that you wish to convert will be retrained and reassigned to a Tier I ship of the relevant nation.

actually i can't find a single word about free captain reset or retraining right now.

•  

 

[Catslave]

19 hours ago, MrConway said:

 

Honestly, where else would we put it? And the XP can then be used to research the next higher CV if placed on the lower one.

 

Nice try ...

 

19 hours ago, a_trike said:

so the xp on uneven CV's goes to the CV that is 1 tier lower...the one you grinded to fully research to get the uneven one up? how can that be usefull?

Not sure what next higher tier i need to research on an Elite ship unless you intent to remove the elite sataus on the even tier along with the uneven tier. That makes even less sense if ppl opt to keep their even tier carriers. Not sure what "next higher cv" i am supposed on my T4 carrier, when I also have the T6, T8 and T10 carrier

 

....not really complaining on leaving the xp on the same ship class, just splitting hairs here.

 

18 hours ago, ledgeri said:

The "stat-reset" is good! Let see how the high winrate CV players excell on the new meta...

It's not a stat reset. Same as the tech tree splits you will just have stats for "T8 Lexington" and "T8 Lexington (pre 31.01.2019)".

 

18 hours ago, deathsadow said:

@MrConway The line regarding the Independence permanent camo is unclear for me:

 

"The camouflage for Tier VI aircraft carrier Independence is replaced by camouflage for Tier VI aircraft carrier Ranger. Camouflage from Tier VII aircraft carrier Ranger is purchased for its full value in doubloons."

 

Its clear that we get the Tier VI Ranger camo, but what is this part about purchasing the Tier VII Ranger camo?

Sh*tty choice of words:

"Tier VI Independence gets replaced by Tier VI Ranger, if you have the perma camo for the T6 Independence you will get the perma camo for T6 Ranger instead. The Tier VII Ranger will be removed and if you possess the perma camo, that Tier VII Ranger perma camo will be refunded it's full value in Dubloons"

[MrConway]

25 minutes ago, deathsadow said:

@MrConway The line regarding the Independence permanent camo is unclear for me:

 

"The camouflage for Tier VI aircraft carrier Independence is replaced by camouflage for Tier VI aircraft carrier Ranger. Camouflage from Tier VII aircraft carrier Ranger is purchased for its full value in doubloons."

 

Its clear that we get the Tier VI Ranger camo, but what is this part about purchasing the Tier VII Ranger camo?

 

I think "purchased" should have been "refunded" here, will fix!

 

18 minutes ago, Catslave said:

@MrConway

 

some more questions and rants:

- "Any associated XP earned by a ship that is to be converted will be transferred to a Tier I ship of the relevant nation."

so if i want to start carrier fresh, i suddenly have a useless T1 cruiser with 500k+ XP that i have to free using dubloons, even though i "farmed" those xp on T10 carriers or similar. Honestly the idea of just dumping everything (including captains and whatnot) on the completely useless T1 cruiser is crap. At least allow us to directly convert the xp to FXP, at a 1:10 rate if you want but almost anything is better then this. Esp "Carrier mains" will surely be happy to have the 5mil+ XP they have on their carriers sitting on the T1 cruiser of all things. (e.g. i'm missing 10 XP on my Shokaku or w/e , then the rework hits and if i loose the carrier, then all the xp i grinded towards the upgrade are dunked unto the T1 cruiser ... a ship that hits Elite status with like 400 XP and has absolutely no use outside of reaching T2)

 

-"All Commanders specialized to for a particular ship that you wish to convert will be retrained and reassigned to a Tier I ship of the relevant nation."

See above, I am happily waiting for my 19pt Hakuryu captain to get nerfed to a 19pt Hashidate captain so i can spent 300k FXP or 500 dubloons to train him for something useful .... like maybe the Hakuryu when/if i unlock it again.

 

-"Permanent camouflages will be compensated for by their full price in doubloons."

So i have to make the tough choice: keep the carrier as is or permamently loose the time limited camouflage like the halloween camo or Ovechkin camo etc.... Instead of just "stealing" the camo forever (esp. considering how dubloons have become largely useless) it would be alot better to allow ppl to sell ship and camouflage seperately.

 

All in all there was several months of time to prepare the shift, so seeing the "we just delete everything and move spare stuff to the useless T1 cruiser" approach once again is ... sad. Or maybe we should be happy that we can at least opt to keep the premium and even tier carriers as is....

 

Saw this a bit late, can't find that in the wall of text called announcement. That's at least something assuming it works better then ... let's say the "buy T10 for credits in the arsenal on PT".

Well ... and everyone will be forced to log in and deal with all effected captains within this 1 week ... RIP to ppl being busy with work, life or family in that time.

... or did you actually have a brain fart and are referring to the free skill reset for carrier captains and captains with carrier related skills ? There is kinda a minor difference between resetting the skill points of a captain and between the ship specialization of a captain...

 

• The associated XP refers only to XP you have sitting around on the CV if/when you decide to sell it, not to any XP spent on researching that CV. The XP is now also locked and it makes no difference which ship it is assigned to. From a technical perspective we cannot have a ship have XP if it is not researched.

 

• If you are 400 XP away from the next CV in the line I would recommend getting the 400 XP before the update hits.

 

• Regarding captains, if you opt to sell your CVs you can retrain the captains to another ship for free until February 8th.

 

• And yes, you do have to make that choice. We tried to provide as much choice as we can, but we cannot consider every possible use case. The option to sell CVs is intended for players who really dislike the new gameplay and want to play something else. If you just want to progress through the tiers again you can do that even if the ships are researched.

 

9 minutes ago, Catslave said:

Nice try ...

 

Not sure what next higher tier i need to research on an Elite ship unless you intent to remove the elite sataus on the even tier along with the uneven tier. That makes even less sense if ppl opt to keep their even tier carriers. Not sure what "next higher cv" i am supposed on my T4 carrier, when I also have the T6, T8 and T10 carrier

 

....not really complaining on leaving the xp on the same ship class, just splitting hairs here.

 

If you have the CVs already I don't know why you would care what ship the extra XP is stored on, it needs to be converted to be useful in either case.

 

[Yamato942]

@MrConway

If i have Shokaku and Lex researched and in port, but also researched Taiho and Essex, and more then 100k elite xp on both cv, tier8s, does after cv patch l can use that xp to research tier10, can i research tier10 and then sell all my cv including that tier10s if i didnt like new cv gameplay, does that xp goes to free exp, to tier1 xp or they stay at tier8cv.

[Catslave]

44 minutes ago, MrConway said:

 

• The associated XP refers only to XP you have sitting around on the CV if/when you decide to sell it, not to any XP spent on researching that CV. The XP is now also locked and it makes no difference which ship it is assigned to. From a technical perspective we cannot have a ship have XP if it is not researched.

 

• If you are 400 XP away from the next CV in the line I would recommend getting the 400 XP before the update hits.

 

• Regarding captains, if you opt to sell your CVs you can retrain the captains to another ship for free until February 8th.

 

• And yes, you do have to make that choice. We tried to provide as much choice as we can, but we cannot consider every possible use case. The option to sell CVs is intended for players who really dislike the new gameplay and want to play something else. If you just want to progress through the tiers again you can do that even if the ships are researched.

 

 

If you have the CVs already I don't know why you would care what ship the extra XP is stored on, it needs to be converted to be useful in either case.

 

thanks for answering ... so

 

- that explains a bit, it's still not exactly satisfying. given the option to get anything out of this xp without having to pay 1000$ should be possible. You should consider anyone who gives up on carrier because of the change wil have the results of many many hours carrier playing turned into garbage parked on a useless T1 ship. This is quite literally a punishment for not keeping the carrier or potentially punishing the player for the carrier design choice made by WG.

 

- textbook answer. What if i try to grind my arse off to get to the next carrier but the server goes down when i'm like lol amount of xp away from it ?

 

- as i added to my post wall: i can't find any word about free captain retraining in the announcement shown in the launcher. All it says it that all carrier captains and captains with carrier skills will get a skill reset by force. If there is indeed a free skill reset and retrain then i rest that point (except maybe for that 1 week timeframe might be bad for people who actually have a life besides WoWs).

 

- Just nope. "We tried ... as much as we can", "cannot consider every possible cause". Definitely looks like nobody even bothered. There is exactly 2 cases:

1. player is done with carriers and wants to get rid of the ship and it's time limited camo (there are a toal of 3 4!!! - i forgot there was  1 time limited T10 Camo as well)
2. player wants to start carrier line from scratch and therefor keep the time limited camo

Any form of not-limited ship/camouflage/signal/module/..... is completely irrelevant to the process. In the worst case you would have to add the 3 limited camouflages to be soldseperately. That is obviously technically possible since I own a crapton of perma camos for silver ships that i have sold (and i can even own modules for ship i sold) and e.g. the Bismarck Collection gives you Bismarck camos, but no Bismarck ... same for british destroyer collection and Lightning/Cossack.

[Catslave]

3 minutes ago, Yamato942 said:

@MrConway

If i have Shokaku and Lex researched and in port, but also researched Taiho and Essex, and more then 100k elite xp on both cv, tier8s, does after cv patch l can use that xp to research tier10, can i research tier10 and then sell all my cv including that tier10s if i didnt like new cv gameplay, does that xp goes to free exp, to tier1 xp or they stay at tier8cv.

All Elite XP on Taiho will be moved to Shokaku, all Elite XP on Essex will be moved to Lexington. All XP used to unlock modules for Taiho and Essex should be turned into FXP. Only available and Elite XP on the T4 carrier are moved to the T1 cruiser (when you sell the carrier ofc).

[CAP98100]

28 minutes ago, Catslave said:

It's not a stat reset. Same as the tech tree splits you will just have stats for "T8 Lexington" and "T8 Lexington (pre 31.01.2019)".

I know, that is why i ""-ed it! I meant basicly the fact, they will not continue, but starting from 0...

 

13 minutes ago, Yamato942 said:

@MrConway

If i have Shokaku and Lex researched and in port, but also researched Taiho and Essex, and more then 100k elite xp on both cv, tier8s, does after cv patch l can use that xp to research tier10, can i research tier10 and then sell all my cv including that tier10s if i didnt like new cv gameplay, does that xp goes to free exp, to tier1 xp or they stay at tier8cv.

Imagine like this: you have now 2 progress bar from t8 to t10: t8-t9, t9-t10. By 0.8.0 you get a long progress bar, all progress from the previous progress bar is dumped into it, and the empty bars a going away, and you get a progress bar from t8 to t10...

But on that @MrConway

 

I know recommended to research the next even tier before the launch, bit what if someone sitting on an account where the t10 CV 1000 ,100 ,10  ,1 XP-in other words: less than the XP difference compensation away?
Will he loose it? Probably...

(Ok basicly become doubling... damn my editing time :) )

[Hicks__D]

to those of us who held the GF zeppelin after the changes gave us a permanent special camouflage, do we lose this camouflage?
Because it was not bought with gold, but a gift from WG for keeping the CV.

I do not want the doubloons, I want the camouflage.

[Praetorias]

I would like real world currency refund for premium carriers i have. Doubloons mean nothing to me.  You ruined it, changed the whole concept, now pay up.  I will take it in pound sterling thanks.

[Bigeddie]

Hey @MrConway

 

I have Essex  ( 'A' hull only) and enough xp & free xp to get Midway & enough credits to buy Midway. I can't yet see the costings / research cost  ( I think that if I get the B hull then I will get the 31k xp back anyway as free xp so the research is currently 254k) but the article implies that the T8 to T10 jump will be cheaper(xp & credits?) than the current 8 to 9 to 10 progress. 

 

So will it be to my advantage (in free xp and credits ) to wait or to progress and purchase now (before update) or does it make no difference?

 

I'd be very grateful for a steer, as I am keen to try the new CV play at t10 but don't want to regret the timing of the research/ purchase

 

thanks

[Catslave]

9 minutes ago, DuainHicks said:

to those of us who held the GF zeppelin after the changes gave us a permanent special camouflage, do we lose this camouflage?
Because it was not bought with gold, but a gift from WG for keeping the CV.

I do not want the doubloons, I want the camouflage.

Rules for Premium Aircraft Carriers

• All "old" Premium aircraft carriers of Tier VIII are replaced with new Premium aircraft carriers of Tier VIII, with any accumulated XP and Commander specializations transferred.
• Premium carriers Saipan and Kaga will be replaced by new Premium carriers Saipan and Kaga, that will be placed at Tier VIII. All accumulated XP and Commander's specializations will be transferred to the new aircraft carriers.
• All permanent and special camouflage patterns applicable to Premium aircraft carriers will be replaced by similar patterns intended for carriers at the same or new tier.
• With the release of Update 0.8.0, Graf Zeppelin will no longer have Hydroacoustic Search. If you had the upgrade, which boosted its performance, installed on your ship, it will be demounted free of charge.

 

 

at least according to the statement you will not loose anything except for uneven tier carriers and carriers you willingly sell. The quote above clearly states that premium carriers will retain all camouflage.

[eliastion]

17 hours ago, DuainHicks said:

to those of us who held the GF zeppelin after the changes gave us a permanent special camouflage, do we lose this camouflage?
Because it was not bought with gold, but a gift from WG for keeping the CV.

I do not want the doubloons, I want the camouflage.

Unless you sell the GF Zeppelin, you keep both the ship and the camo. The "permanently lost" camos are a WG's f*ck-up solution specific to  situations where you sell a ship, the camo gets automatically refunded for doublons (even if it was not sold for doublons in the first place) but once you get the ship back, the camo is not purchasable.

 

Don't ask me why they don't leave these special camos to be sellable separately (just temporarily make them tradable just like oyu can sell normal camos) OR - perhaps more advantageously to themselves - don't just add them to Arsenal to be purchasable so that you could immediately buy your camo back (it's possible to get camos for ships you don't own and don't have researched). That would actually likely boost sales quite a bit - I bet there would be plenty people interested in CV camos that never looked their way before (I mean, who would really bother with special CV camos - no matter how nice looking -  when the only time you could've looked at them during normal gameplay is pre-battle countdown). And I doubt if the initial popularity of CVs (and - potentially - special camos for them) is really going to last until the next Prima Aprilis (if the space camos appear then again), not to mention the faraway Halloween of 2019.

 

16 hours ago, Bigeddie said:

Hey @MrConway

 

I have Essex and enough xp & free xp to get Midway & enough credits to buy Midway. I can't yet see the costings / research cost but the article implies that the T8 to T10 jump will be cheaper than the current 8 to 9 to 10 progress. 

 

So will it be to my advantage (in free xp and credits ) to wait or to progress and purchase now (before update) or does it make no difference?

 

I'd be very grateful for a steer, as I am keen to try the new CV play at t10 but don't want to regret the timing

 

thanks

You only get freeXP for CVs you have - the accumulated XP isn't changed to freeXP. So I'm pretty sure that the most advantageous (assuming you want to play Midway from day one of rework) for you would be:

1. Research and purchase Midway

2. After the rework hits, sell Midway, you'll receive enough credits and freeXP to instantly purchase it again

3. Research and purchase Midway again. Unless you currently have EXACTLY enough XP to research Midway AND no XP accumulated on t8 USN CV, you'll get some freeXP for free this way because.

 

To put it simply: Imagine a situation:

pre-patch

Lexington (elited, 3 000 leftover XP)

Essex (elited, 2 000 leftover XP)

Midway (stock, 0 XP)

 

this should lead to

post-patch

Lexington (elited, 5 000 leftover XP)

Midway (stock, 0 XP)

 

Now if you sell the Midway, you'll get full credits+freeXP compensation. If you instantly re-purchase the ship, you'll see

Lexington (elited, 0 leftover XP)

Midway (stock, 0 XP)

5000 freeXP

 

Because you sold Midway for freeXP but then researched it using 5 000 leftover XP that pre-patch was lying around on Lexington and Essex, effectively this little speculation allowed you to convert 5 000 locked XP for free.

 

Although it seems like it would only work once because selling+unresearching a ship doesn't give freeXP if you do it for the second time.

Quote

Aircraft carriers can be exchanged more than once. But all subsequent operations will convert the XP used for researching the ship and its modules across to the associated XP of the ship one Tier below. If you exchange Tier IV carrier, starting with the second operation of this kind, the associated XP will be transferred to Tier I ship.

So no even if you have 5 million XP on Essex and Lexington, you can't just sell and buy Midway over and over again until everything's converted to freeXP

[Bigeddie]

thanks

[Ungrim_Baraz]

From the Portal:

General rules for all ships
*All Upgrades that produce an effect on the operation of anti-aircraft guns will be demounted and transferred to the Inventory.
*Commanders without specialization for aircraft carriers, but with any of the following skills mastered: "Dogfighting Expert", "Aircraft Servicing Expert", "Evasive Maneuver", "Expert Rear Gunner", "Emergency Takeoff", or "Air Supremacy", will have their skills reset.

 

In other words: no commander skill reset by default for surface ships: HOW THE [edited] [edited]??????????

Either I have missed something (I read the whole article) or you are seriously not going to offer a captain reset with the biggest rework in the whole game since alpha? HOW THE [edited]HELL?

EDIT:
The whole meta is going to be shaking and thown around for weeks or months till "final" balance is achieved and until the community "digests" the rework, and there is no mention at all about a period for captain skill rework? are you serious?

Either that or I am more blind than I thought and I missed such announcement....

[Bigeddie]

2 minutes ago, Ungrim_Baraz said:

From the Portal:

General rules for all ships
*All Upgrades that produce an effect on the operation of anti-aircraft guns will be demounted and transferred to the Inventory.
*Commanders without specialization for aircraft carriers, but with any of the following skills mastered: "Dogfighting Expert", "Aircraft Servicing Expert", "Evasive Maneuver", "Expert Rear Gunner", "Emergency Takeoff", or "Air Supremacy", will have their skills reset.

 

In other words: no commander skill reset by default for surface ship: HOW THE [edited] [edited]??????????

Either I have missed something (I read the whole article) or you are seriously not going to offer a captaoin reset with the biggest rework in the whole game since alpha? HOW THE [edited]HELL?

The way I read it there was a compulsory reset for those captains, others have the choice for free for a week?

[Ungrim_Baraz]

1 minute ago, Bigeddie said:

The way I read it there was a compulsory reset for those captains, others have the choice for free for a week?

1.  Where have you seen that of "reset for one week"? I have not seen it
2. You kidding me WG? Just ONE week to adapt to a whole rework such as this???

[Bigeddie]

 

8 minutes ago, Ungrim_Baraz said:

1.  Where have you seen that of "reset for one week"? I have not seen it
2. You kidding me WG? Just ONE week to adapt to a whole rework such as this???

theres usually a free reset at the end of the cb season I think

[Ungrim_Baraz]

2 minutes ago, Bigeddie said:

 

theres usually a free reset at the end of the cb season I think

Only if you take part in Clan battles (iirr). Not in general for the playerbase, but this CV rework affects everyone whether you play clan or not.

[Bigeddie]

1 minute ago, Ungrim_Baraz said:

Only if you take part in Clan battles (iirr). Not in general for the playerbase, but this CV rework affects everyone whether you play clan or not.

valid point

[Ungrim_Baraz]

17 hours ago, Ungrim_Baraz said:

From the Portal:

General rules for all ships
*All Upgrades that produce an effect on the operation of anti-aircraft guns will be demounted and transferred to the Inventory.
*Commanders without specialization for aircraft carriers, but with any of the following skills mastered: "Dogfighting Expert", "Aircraft Servicing Expert", "Evasive Maneuver", "Expert Rear Gunner", "Emergency Takeoff", or "Air Supremacy", will have their skills reset.

 

In other words: no commander skill reset by default for surface ships: HOW THE [edited] [edited]??????????

Either I have missed something (I read the whole article) or you are seriously not going to offer a captain reset with the biggest rework in the whole game since alpha? HOW THE [edited]HELL?

EDIT:
The whole meta is going to be shaking and thown around for weeks or months till "final" balance is achieved and until the community "digests" the rework, and there is no mention at all about a period for captain skill rework? are you serious?

Either that or I am more blind than I thought and I missed such announcement....

Hey @MrConway, clarification on this point would be much appreciated...

EDIT: Turns out I am more blind than I thought and you do cover this on the first page of the thread

 

[sic] So, any captain with the mentioned skills will be reset by us automatically with the update. BUT there is a week (until Feb 8th) of free retraining and respeccing for all captains following the update in addition.

You should add this clarification on the portal´s article and clearly state it is for everyone and not just for clan players.

 

Also, IMHO One week of retraining is way too short for a massive change which is going to send the balance all over the place, and which obviously will havea very different meta during that first week than, let´s say, in two months... So only one week of retraining is way too short.

[Carlinfar]

 Will I get back the odd carriers when they show up, or WG just stole the hard earned odd cvs and I'll have to grind them back later :(

what a b******t with this whole rework ...

 

 

[Jean_Bart]

53 minutes ago, Carlinfar said:

 Will I get back the odd carriers when they show up, or WG just stole the hard earned odd cvs and I'll have to grind them back later :(

what a b******t with this whole rework ...

WG is badly trying to revive WoWp by killing WoWs!

WoWp is an utter fail and seems like WoWs will follow it into the cyber-junkyard very soon!

[Battleship_Nagato]

I have both Halloween camos for carriers but I want to refund everything and start over. Any chance I can keep those two camo options available for me in the future while refunding all the normal permacamo?

[sisito0o]

Two half lines of the least populated class are the same. You put a lot of work into the design of the new gameplay but not much into making them different. Also the whole thing is very imaginary more then it is for the rest of the classes. I don't think it will work out better with the new design then it does with the current.