Z52 needs some love

[ThePurpleSmurf]

28 minutes ago, totally_potato said:

A few questions about your build

You went for the full gun build

But how could you miss such essential skills? LS, PM, Concealment?

You took IFHE? When Z-52 already has 32mm pin base, you take IFHE? That cuts your fire chance significantly more than anything.

Sorry to say this but your build is too selfish

Look at the post date, it's quite a bit ago. In the meantime the commander skill rework happened and the site with the commander build tool show the old skills applied to the new skill tree, which messes up the outcome entirely. All build and setup about ships that are from before the commander rework are obsolete.

[totally_potato]

3 minutes ago, ThePurpleSmurf said:

Look at the post date, it's quite a bit ago. In the meantime the commander skill rework happened and the site with the commander build tool show the old skills applied to the new skill tree, which messes up the outcome entirely. All build and setup about ships that are from before the commander rework are obsolete.

no I mean IFHE? No conceal? No LS

I am pretty sure you had or didn't have these skills, hence they were arranged in such a way. You posted on October 2020 and the German DDs got their HE pin buff by that point so they could pin 32mm without IFHE

And Conceal and LS are no brainers on DDs

So I didn't fully understand your build

Can you post your old builds via screenshot or something

[ThePurpleSmurf]

2 hours ago, totally_potato said:

no I mean IFHE? No conceal? No LS

I am pretty sure you had or didn't have these skills, hence they were arranged in such a way. You posted on October 2020 and the German DDs got their HE pin buff by that point so they could pin 32mm without IFHE

And Conceal and LS are no brainers on DDs

So I didn't fully understand your build

Can you post your old builds via screenshot or something

I'm a DD main, i never play any DD without LS, SE and CE with the only exception of some French DD. As i said, the link lead to a skill tree that is obsolete, skill IDs changed, skills changed, it's messed up and to look at old links that are applied to the new skill tree makes no sense. And i'm fully aware of the HE pen on German ships so it would be beyond stupid to skill into it. It made sense for a while on Hindenburg, to fight Stalingrads and Moskvas, but this also changed over time.

[totally_potato]

20 minutes ago, ThePurpleSmurf said:

I'm a DD main, i never play any DD without LS, SE and CE with the only exception of some French DD. As i said, the link lead to a skill tree that is obsolete, skill IDs changed, skills changed, it's messed up and to look at old links that are applied to the new skill tree makes no sense. And i'm fully aware of the HE pen on German ships so it would be beyond stupid to skill into it. It made sense for a while on Hindenburg, to fight Stalingrads and Moskvas, but this also changed over time.

Hindi had 51mm pin for a while now, so I assume you meant kremlin instead of Stalin or Moskva

What was your old build tho for Z-52?

I currently use this build

https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PGSD110&modules=11211&upgrades=135321&commander=PGW103&skills=4413984&ar=100&flags=11477&consumables=1111&pos=0

I take torp reload as well at times instead of extra consumables to see what suits me best. Its not the best but it works.

[Aragathor]

So, after the massive 0,2s reload buff, do you think Z-52 is now better?

[ThePurpleSmurf]

12 hours ago, Aragathor said:

So, after the massive 0,2s reload buff, do you think Z-52 is now better?

 

I took her out for a first game of the day and i'd say she's still okay

Spoiler

 

[Hugh_Ruka]

On 5/23/2021 at 9:29 PM, Aragathor said:

So, after the massive 0,2s reload buff, do you think Z-52 is now better?

aah, good reminder, I have to check and try ...

 

Only played the Khabarovsk on T10 lately .....

[hellbolt]

On 5/25/2021 at 12:34 PM, Hugh_Ruka said:

aah, good reminder, I have to check and try ...

 

Only played the Khabarovsk on T10 lately .....

no special differences in playstyle for this. It has finally higher DPM than Schimakaze :)

In the world of radar and CV's it really has hard time as besides hydro it does not boost in anything special - nor guns (AP with no special pen angles nor torps - low number of them [2x4], relatively low damage but fast reload after all equipment is mounted)