[TSUN] XxSovietStrikeXx Players 1,295 posts 50,044 battles Report post #1 Posted January 18, 2019 Alaska and Azuma has one important thing going for them compared to Stalingrad, Which is concealment. Now with the increased fire duration Stalingrad will suffer two times, From bad concealment and the fire duration. Stalingrad concealment will even get worse with the upcoming changes to the Concealment captain skill which will make things even worse for the ship. Also Kronshtadt is already balance with her inaccurate guns, So why she gets that 60 sec fire duration as well?!! The only reason WG did that IMO is to please the players who doesn't have both ships. I'm not pleased with these adjustments. 2 10 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Ysterpyp Players 1,486 posts 25,362 battles Report post #2 Posted January 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, ABED1984 said: Alaska and Azuma has one important thing going for them compared to Stalingrad, Which is concealment. Now with the increased fire duration Stalingrad will suffer two times, From bad concealment and the fire duration. Stalingrad concealment will even get worse with the upcoming changes to the Concealment captain skill which will make things even worse for the ship. Also Kronshtadt is already balance with her inaccurate guns, So why she gets that 60 sec fire duration as well?!! The only reason WG did that IMO is to please the players who doesn't have both ships. I'm not pleased with these adjustments. Glad i got the uss black instead 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishDogFoodShack Players 685 posts 5,858 battles Report post #3 Posted January 18, 2019 3 8 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSUN] XxSovietStrikeXx Players 1,295 posts 50,044 battles Report post #4 Posted January 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ysterpyp said: Glad i got the uss black instead USS Black has no place for her in this thread. It's a DD not a B.cruiser. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miessa3 Beta Tester 1,650 posts 8,156 battles Report post #5 Posted January 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, ABED1984 said: USS Black has no place for her in this thread. It's a DD not a B.cruiser. There is your answer. WG had to do it because they reason with the fact that those are Battlecruisers, so it would be russian bias if they loosen the rule only for RU ships. Some more disadvantages over moskva aren't a bad thing on Stalingrad either. I agree though that Kronshtadt didn't really needed that Nerf but I still say it's reasonable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSUN] XxSovietStrikeXx Players 1,295 posts 50,044 battles Report post #6 Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, Miessa3 said: There is your answer. WG had to do it because they reason with the fact that those are Battlecruisers, so it would be russian bias if they loosen the rule only for RU ships. Some more dissadvantages over moskva aren't a bad thing on Stalingrad either. I agree though that Kronshtadt didn't really needed that Nerf but I still say it's reasonable. Yes, But they aren't Battleships either. Meaning, BBs has this 60 sec duration so why make a Battlecruiser on the same level with Battleships?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Ysterpyp Players 1,486 posts 25,362 battles Report post #7 Posted January 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, ABED1984 said: USS Black has no place for her in this thread. It's a DD not a B.cruiser. Another reason is its harder to farm unicum wtr in stalin + you should see the how the ultimate crocodile camo destroys WG economy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miessa3 Beta Tester 1,650 posts 8,156 battles Report post #8 Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, ABED1984 said: Yes, But they aren't Battleships either. Meaning, BBs has this 60 sec duration so why make a Battlecruiser on the same level with Battleships?! Yes i agree 45 Seconds would be more reasonable. My point is just that if it's 60 seconds for Alaska and Azuma it's 60 secs for everyone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Ysterpyp Players 1,486 posts 25,362 battles Report post #9 Posted January 18, 2019 Really a double post u scrub Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSUN] XxSovietStrikeXx Players 1,295 posts 50,044 battles Report post #10 Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Miessa3 said: Yes i agree 45 Seconds would be more reasonable. My point is just that if it's 60 seconds for Alaska and Azuma it's 60 secs for everyone. Like i said, Those 2 ships has better concealment. Now Stalingrad has bad concealment and BB fire duration while the other two still has superior concealment that's better than regular silver ships like Hindenburg or Henri. If we are speaking about balancing ships then give Stalingrad the same level of concealment that Alaska and Azuma has or nearly to the same level. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] quickr Players 1,639 posts 23,524 battles Report post #11 Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Miessa3 said: My point is just that if it's 60 seconds for Alaska and Azuma it's 60 secs for everyone. 16 minutes ago, Miessa3 said: WG had to do it because they reason with the fact that those are Battlecruisers, so it would be russian bias if they loosen the rule only for RU ships. WG shouldn't have nerfed Alaska and Azuma in the first place. WG reasoning for it is questionable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,460 posts Report post #12 Posted January 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, ABED1984 said: Like i said, Those 2 ships has better concealment. Now Stalingrad has bad concealment and BB fire duration while the other two still has superior concealment that's better than regular silver ships like Hindenburg or Henri. If we are speaking about balancing ships then give Stalingrad the same level of concealment that Alaska and Azuma has or nearly to the same level. Sure, just don't forget to give azuma radar and alaska soviet shell velocity to make them all truly equal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,646 posts 12,387 battles Report post #13 Posted January 18, 2019 It also has the biggest HP pool so yeah... Maybe this will bring the moskva back to life because now it is kinda obsolete. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A77] WashedandDeceased Players 891 posts 20,724 battles Report post #14 Posted January 18, 2019 Can I just remind everyone that's whining that it's just a 15 second increase and that's before counting in stuff like flags, BoS etc. It's not the end of the world IMO.. Plus, now there might be a an actual reason to pick Moskva for CB.. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,930 posts Report post #15 Posted January 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: It also has the biggest HP pool so yeah... Maybe this will bring the moskva back to life because now it is kinda obsolete. Thought people already said the Moskva was a viable pick. "Moskva has better HE DPM therefore its a better pick for CB". Though the same ppl that said that run Stalingrad instead of Moskva so who knows. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flavio1997 ∞ Alpha Tester 1,006 posts 11,990 battles Report post #16 Posted January 18, 2019 yeah...kronstad is triuly balansed comrade! and don't tell me the bs " but it is a freemium ships, so better player have it" cause is bs, and the salem will show you exactly that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #17 Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ABED1984 said: Alaska and Azuma has one important thing going for them compared to Stalingrad, Which is concealment. Now with the increased fire duration Stalingrad will suffer two times, From bad concealment and the fire duration. Stalingrad concealment will even get worse with the upcoming changes to the Concealment captain skill which will make things even worse for the ship. Also Kronshtadt is already balance with her inaccurate guns, So why she gets that 60 sec fire duration as well?!! The only reason WG did that IMO is to please the players who doesn't have both ships. I'm not pleased with these adjustments. Stalin is OP ship....7 second longer fire will do nothing to change that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #18 Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Ysterpyp said: Glad i got the uss black instead waist of good steel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,197 battles Report post #19 Posted January 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, Freyr_90 said: Can I just remind everyone that's whining that it's just a 15 second increase and that's before counting in stuff like flags, BoS etc. It's not the end of the world IMO.. Plus, now there might be a an actual reason to pick Moskva for CB.. On top of that, the OP KNOWS why the change happens so...can we say TROLL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Ysterpyp Players 1,486 posts 25,362 battles Report post #20 Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, veslingr said: waist of good steel steel waist yeah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #21 Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Ysterpyp said: steel waist yeah no idea what is the point here but i agree :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miessa3 Beta Tester 1,650 posts 8,156 battles Report post #22 Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ysterpyp said: steel waist yeah that sure is designed for a slim waist. 1 minute ago, veslingr said: no idea what is the point here but i agree :) It's called "waste" (at least what you meant) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,197 battles Report post #23 Posted January 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, veslingr said: waist of good steel Just now, veslingr said: no idea what is the point here but i agree :) To throw someting away, make it useless, its a WASTE. Waist is the central part of your body, bottom end of your torso. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #24 Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Juanx said: To throw someting away, make it useless, its a WASTE. Waist is the central part of your body, bottom end of your torso. aaaa spelling police...good good.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSUN] XxSovietStrikeXx Players 1,295 posts 50,044 battles Report post #25 Posted January 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Juanx said: On top of that, the OP KNOWS why the change happens so...can we say TROLL? It isn't a good idea to nerf a hard earned ship, Is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
