Penetration without damage

[Ferry_25]

The pen w/o dam is one of the biggest mysteries which has bugging me in this game like forever. I get a miss, bounce or a shatter won't do anything. But could someone please explain to me like I'm a six your old how this (see pic) is in this universe able to hit, pen and yet do no damage whatsoever on a ship?

 

 

 

 

 

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[wilkatis_LV]

11 minutes ago, Ferry_25 said:

one of the biggest mysteries

Same list as always (I swear I should save it somewhere so I don't need to re-type it all the time):

• Turrets - any kind (main, secondary, AA....)
• Guns (turretless) - any kind
• Barbettes - outside of the hull
• Fully saturated areas
• Spaced armour (generally hello French ships when it comes to this one)
  • Torpedo bulges should not count, at most they should give a shatter icon. But it may be buggy, who knows
• Citadel hits
  • This is a relatively new one, but cits now give you a 0dmg pen ribbon aswell

[Ferry_25]

23 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said:

Same list as always (I swear I should save it somewhere so I don't need to re-type it all the time):

• Turrets - any kind (main, secondary, AA....)
• Guns (turretless) - any kind
• Barbettes - outside of the hull
• Fully saturated areas
• Spaced armour (generally hello French ships when it comes to this one)
  • Torpedo bulges should not count, at most they should give a shatter icon. But it may be buggy, who knows
• Citadel hits
  • This is a relatively new one, but cits now give you a 0dmg pen ribbon aswell

Granted: a fully destroyed ship part won't be able to take more dmg. I get that. That I can understand once every 2 to 300 hits. Still it doesn't explain me why that two man's size shell doesn't do ANYTHING at all while being a pen. I just don't get it. That secondary turret/ AA mount fit very well in that shell. Twice. And WTF is a Barbette "outside the hull?" AFAIK there is only water "outside the hull?" or isn't there (a miss I understand doesn't do dmg). Spaced armor??? Citadel hit without dmg? That thing can magically teleport itself inside 2 hull compartments or into the citadel whithout doing any dmg?? Any at all? Or does it float in gently like a zeppelin, knoking on the door politely and being led through the corridors, doors, carefully avoiding contact with personnel and material and lay down as gently as possible with 800m/s?

 

Sorry wil. I still don't get it for 99%...

 

Edit: I'm not looking for a automatic catastrophic dmg number in my case. Just some dmg. Even if it's half overpen dmg. When I shoot a bullet at a car I damage it. I get it when I hit Jason Bourne's trunk after a pursuit not doing more dmg than it's already taken. In a freak luck I light hit his gas line and catastrophically dmg his car (exploding gas tanks are for movies and video games). Otherwise I'd do some dmg.

[wilkatis_LV]

1 hour ago, Ferry_25 said:

That secondary turret/ AA mount fit very well in that shell. Twice.

Blame WG for being unable to introduce a "module hit" ribbon. And yes, going through even just an AA MG will give you a pen ribbon because reasons

Also turrets are always bigger than shells. So yeah, they can eat them.

 

1 hour ago, Ferry_25 said:

And WTF is a Barbette "outside the hull?"

 

I mean, that's the name I know it by, it might have another one

 

1 hour ago, Ferry_25 said:

Spaced armor???

External armour where shell explodes between it and the actual ships hull. Basically it explodes in nothingness thus it doesn't deal any dmg

 

Very simplistic cross-section:

 

1 hour ago, Ferry_25 said:

Citadel hit without dmg?

No, it did citadel worth of dmg. Just that citadel hits give you 2 ribbons: citadel and pen. You know that citadel ribbon for the dmg you did, but the pen ribbon is jsut a 0dmg ribbon on top of that.

So if you fire 1 shell, get citadel, you get 2 ribbons for it instead of the usual 1.

 

As I said, relatively recent change