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Well do you want a strange super cruiser thingy or a strange dakka battleship thingy? Both need to hit broadsides to really do worthwile damage hence are VERY dependent on positioning to pull their own weight, however if you are not certain what you want, ie you dont really WANT either so just save the steel for some future release?

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Bourgogne is a HE spammer cruiser disguised as a BB.

 

Stalingrad is an AP slinger BB disguised as a cruiser.

 

Whats your preference? For me the Bourgogne looks uninteresting at most.

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5 minutes ago, kfa said:

Bourgogne is a HE spammer cruiser disguised as a BB.

 

Stalingrad is an AP slinger BB disguised as a cruiser.

 

Whats your preference? For me the Bourgogne looks uninteresting at most.

I like the Alsace and so the Bourgogne is the more attractive of the two, but for clan battles it is probably useless. Hence my confusion about the Stalingrad. But I am also aware of Stalingrads weaknesses and I am not one to hide behind islands...

 

Do you think BOUGOBLER can hold its own as a TX BB?

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Stalingrad first. 

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21 minutes ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

I like the Alsace and so the Bourgogne is the more attractive of the two, but for clan battles it is probably useless. Hence my confusion about the Stalingrad. But I am also aware of Stalingrads weaknesses and I am not one to hide behind islands...

 

Do you think BOUGOBLER can hold its own as a TX BB?

There is no bad T10 ship. A good player can carry in Khaba or Daring the same as in a Hindi or Bourgogne. If you like the small guns and the reload booster go for it, but i am pretty sure if you want to sealclub in randoms the Balancegrad is better.

(its just my preference, i cant make the jean bart work either)

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1 hour ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

I now have enough steel to unlock either ship, but which ship should I get?? 

Argosax in dreamland again :Smile_facepalm:

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On 1/10/2019 at 7:45 AM, bushwacker001 said:

Argosax in dreamland again :Smile_facepalm:

Please don't post again because you look stupid when you do:

 

 

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Well I'd say ignore the idea of using either in CW as you may not always be in a Clan so pick what you prefer. I just got the Stalingrad and it's very Strong yet also dull to play.

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2 hours ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

I now have enough steel to unlock either ship, but which ship should I get?? 

if you play CW - Stalin is stronger option

 

if it is for random it depends what class do you prefer more.

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3 minutes ago, veslingr said:

if you play CW - Stalin is stronger option

 

if it is for random it depends what class do you prefer more.

I prefer BBs but I do like the Kronshtadt playstyle

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Just now, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

I prefer BBs but I do like the Kronshtadt playstyle

Stalingrad is an accurate Kronshtadt...sooo 😁

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1 minute ago, ReapingKnight said:

Stalingrad is an accurate Kronshtadt...sooo 😁

But people with Stalingrad do not play her like a Kronshtadt, they just hide behind an island and camp like Des Moines players do. I would hate doing that as it makes your participation passive while being focused by every man as and his dog since Stalingrad are always focused when spotted, I am a tactically aggressive player.

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2 minutes ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

But people with Stalingrad do not play her like a Kronshtadt, they just hide behind an island and camp like Des Moines players do. I would hate doing that as it makes your participation passive while being focused by every man as and his dog since Stalingrad are always focused when spotted, I am a tactically aggressive player.

In randoms I play it like most USSR ships, and average over 100k of each my 3 games so far...Also as it's a game you can play any ship however you want.

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8 minutes ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

I prefer BBs but I do like the Kronshtadt playstyle

if you have Kron and do not have Jean Bart than go for Burg (only BBS with reload buster which gives different and fun play style). Kron and stalin have similar play stile even Kron is much more mobile.

 

If you have Kron and Barto go for Stalin

 

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Stalin is fast ship, so camping is not only playstile.

 

in CW Stalin is very solid kitter 

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2 hours ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

I like the Alsace and so the Bourgogne is the more attractive of the two, but for clan battles it is probably useless. Hence my confusion about the Stalingrad. But I am also aware of Stalingrads weaknesses and I am not one to hide behind islands...

 

Do you think BOUGOBLER can hold its own as a TX BB?

Well, you can try to ask Flambass about Bourgogne on CW as he tried it (I've seen a video on YT, but only one video won't show you enough evidence to consider a ship apropiated to CW. So better ask him for proper feedback).

At least, it has some advantages over other BBs, it's fast so you can reposition easily and has reload booster so you can punish a broadsiding enemy or rain HE to an enemy that used DCP. However, it's downside is that has the lowest T10 caliber guns and also is more prone to HE damage than other T10 BBs.

Also, Stalingrad is widely used on CW, seems that top clans use 1 or 2 so even if you get it, it's possible that you end not playing it if other clan members have it and perform better than you.

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1 hour ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

Please don't post again because you look stupid when you do:

Ok I will give you that one but if not looking stupid was a reason not to post, your post count would be about 4 :Smile_smile:

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6 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said:

Ok I will give you that one but if not looking stupid was a reason not to post, your post count would be about 4 :Smile_smile:

Its needless mate no need for that kinda reply, regardless of your opinion consider the content of the thread before pissing on it and you will do well:cap_like:.

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Just now, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

Its needless mate no need for that kinda reply, regardless of your opinion consider the content of the thread before pissing on it

:Smile_veryhappy: So you told the truth for once. No need to get all righteous. 

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I would really love to see a review of BOUGLOGLOL by someone on these forums that actually has the ship

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8 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

I'd wait to see the uncover of this "coming soon" ship before committing.

Its the wichita (the black silhouette). Not something worth waiting.

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O7's Ke(k)bob on NA :Smile_hiding:

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From what I've seen: The JB is much closer to BJ than KS is to Stalin.

I'd love to see a steel CV on a similar power lvl - now that CVs are balanced :Smile_trollface:

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I have both ships.

 

Bourgogne

CW: It sucks against angled targets and has a small healthpool, so it has no use in CW.

Randoms: It really needs good positioning, but if you are a skilled player that reload booster can be crazy. Most people end up spamming HE though, which is boring.

 

Stalingrad 

CW: It is very useful in CW, simply because it has improved AP angles on long range guns.

Randoms: It is hard to position aggressively while not overextending, which can be boring. But the guns punish mistakes hard, which is enjoyable. 

 

If I had neither, I would probably go with Stalin because it could be the first one to be removed from the Arsenal (just guessing).

 

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