[-N5C-] Apophisos Players 46 posts 16,527 battles Report post #1 Posted January 5, 2019 If you are nerfing this HUGE brick, i want my steel back asap. SAD. 1 13 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #2 Posted January 5, 2019 Dream on lol. Only fair to give it the same fire duration as the other "supercruisers" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DAMNO] Seinta Beta Tester 857 posts 12,319 battles Report post #3 Posted January 5, 2019 Did you refuse to play Cruisers back when they burned for 60 seconds? Battlecruisers can handle it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #4 Posted January 5, 2019 They are not nerfing Stalin, rather changing game mechanic for Battle cruisers. WG would never directly nerf a released premium ship 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #5 Posted January 5, 2019 And we have a winner for 1st potato complaining about Stalingrad being too weak! Congratulations, you're a proud owner of a badge that would get me banned if I posted it here Also it's WiP, so nothing is final and / or changed right now 7 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] HMS_Britannia Beta Tester 250 posts 44,723 battles Report post #6 Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) I don't agree with OP, however I do think that if they are going to give the kronny 60sec duration they need to do something either about the 25mms plating everywhere or improve the dispersion to match the rest of the supercruisers Edited January 5, 2019 by HMS_Britannia Spelling 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #7 Posted January 5, 2019 Better question is - Graf Spee wasn't mentioned but it kinda qualifies. Will it or no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #8 Posted January 5, 2019 REEEEEE OP ship can't be nerfed REEEEE 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skurfa Beta Tester 809 posts Report post #9 Posted January 5, 2019 In my opinion: Let WG adjust every ship, also premiums. That would allow a better and more balanced game. The idea of premiums being slightly better, or just different from the main line ship, is ok, but brokenly overpowered, nope. Premiums are already being adjusted, just not directly, they’re being powercrept and noone complains about that?? Now, hit me with your dislikes 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GW_KR] nooberg Players 227 posts 25,886 battles Report post #10 Posted January 5, 2019 I paid money for a certain product and now that product is being changed, I want my money back...simple customer rights. But, our dear OP didn't pay any ACTUAL money for his ship, so nerf away with abaddon. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #11 Posted January 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, nooberg said: [...], so nerf away with abaddon. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #12 Posted January 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Aotearas said: 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #13 Posted January 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Apophisos said: If you are nerfing this HUGE brick, i want my steel back asap. SAD. Ohno Stalingrad has 60 seconds fire. This ship that you have 5-10% higher WR and 16k higher average damage than you have with your highest tier 10 cruiser is now totally unplayable. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Blixies Beta Tester, Players 2,160 posts 6,904 battles Report post #14 Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, HMS_Britannia said: I don't agree with OP, however I do think that if they are going to give the kronny 60sec duration they need to do something either about the 25mms plating everywhere or improve the dispersion to match the rest of the supercruisers Do they? The Kron has more AP dpm than Stalingrad. If it had the same, or similar dispersion... That is gonna be a yikes from me. Even if it burns for two full unmitigated fires (each taking away 18% of Kron's HP), it still as healthy as an untouched Buffalo. Kron: 72 450 - 26 082 (36%, two full fires) = 46 368 HP Buffalo: 47 800 HP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] HMS_Britannia Beta Tester 250 posts 44,723 battles Report post #15 Posted January 5, 2019 I don't necessarily think it should have the same as stalin but the same as Alaska and Azuma yes, not forgetting that it doesn't have the same bounce angles as stalin or even Alaska nor the hard hitting HE of azuma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #16 Posted January 5, 2019 You didn’t buy it... spend money on it... so, you’re point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #17 Posted January 5, 2019 they will nerf it when every ship in the game will be able to counter each other! so that means never! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skurfa Beta Tester 809 posts Report post #18 Posted January 5, 2019 3 hours ago, nooberg said: I paid money for a certain product and now that product is being changed, I want my money back...simple customer rights. Okay, what if they buff ALL OTHER SHIPS? Would you want your money back too? Even putting more ships out there that are more OP’ed that your OP ship, would be an direct nerf of your ship, would you want your money back then? Just let WG do what needs to be done, so the game gets better... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] HNRDecado Players 53 posts Report post #19 Posted January 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Apophisos said: If you are nerfing this HUGE brick, i want my steel back asap. SAD. Good luck with that! Let me know how it goes 😂😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOOKS] kingzy2013 Players 228 posts 6,355 battles Report post #20 Posted January 6, 2019 by no means is this ship weak, but it has a noticeable citadel and is quite punishing for presenting broadside as generally ships should be. As strong as its firepower is, caught in a crossfire they are as vulnerable as any other CL 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #21 Posted January 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, kingzy2013 said: by no means is this ship weak, but it has a noticeable citadel and is quite punishing for presenting broadside as generally ships should be. As strong as its firepower is, caught in a crossfire they are as vulnerable as any other CL It is even more vulnerable than other cruisers, because it turns slower than a BB and doesn't have concealment. We have been telling the whiners all along and now we finally get to farm them ourselves... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceyJones Beta Tester 1,286 posts Report post #22 Posted January 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: It is even more vulnerable than other cruisers, because it turns slower than a BB and doesn't have concealment. We have been telling the whiners all along and now we finally get to farm them ourselves... this love the broadsiding stalins in randoms now they give so much free damage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SOFI] SgtTincan Beta Tester 229 posts 13,259 battles Report post #23 Posted January 6, 2019 21 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said: Better question is - Graf Spee wasn't mentioned but it kinda qualifies. Will it or no? spee burns for 45 seconds wich i think is fair considering the guns it has (number and caliber) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #24 Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, SgtTincan said: spee burns for 45 seconds wich i think is fair considering the guns it has (number and caliber) Same as Kron and Stalin, same as would-be Alaska and Azuma. 4 of those 5 are proposed to be changed from 45 to 60s, Spee is the 5th, and it fits the description completely. Not that it needs another nerf after already having its AP slaughtered vs DDs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #25 Posted January 7, 2019 19 hours ago, kingzy2013 said: by no means is this ship weak, but it has a noticeable citadel and is quite punishing for presenting broadside as generally ships should be. As strong as its firepower is, caught in a crossfire they are as vulnerable as any other CL Now have a Zao, Des, Moskva, Hindy ect in the same place as that ship in that picture.....It would be out right dead! Hummm. The fact that the Grad is still sailing speaks in volumes. Plus how many Grads do you see in Open water that like plum unless he had no choice? Precisely. I welcome the new 60's. We can't keep Battlecrusiers cherry picking what they want like they do now. They can't have the callaber and HP of Battleships and the versatility of a cruiser. It's too much at the moment. Kron, Stalin, Alaska and Azuma all fit that bill. Having a longer fire duration makes total sense if you ask me . This is from someone who is looking forward to the Alaska. Fair play WG, this is a good change IMHO. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
