[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,210 battles Report post #26 Posted January 8, 2019 Am 5.1.2019 um 16:15, ExtremeShip sagte: I have a Tier 4 german destroyer but I don't know if I chose the right destroyer line The German DDs are a bit unique in that there are at least two massive breaks in the line. The first four ones can reward hyper aggressive play with their front torps. You can not just get away with recklessness more easily on the low tiers; it's almost a requirement for playing these ships successfully because they only gain stealth torp ability with a 10-pt captain. Through the mid tiers, they slowly develop into somewhat gimmicky 'hybrid' DDs (that supposedly do equally well with guns and torps) but arguably, this side of the premium T-61, the concept doesn't really come into its own until Tier VIII, and that's of course the Tier with the worst general matchmaking. Also the smoke is neither here nor there with its medium-short duration and limited number and longish cooldown, so you can't really practice the 'offensive smoke' tactic for extended periods (where you just smoke up in a good position and keep shooting at the enemy from within the cloud.) Though that may be a blessing in disguise... In any event, there is a very good Flamu video on youtube covering most of the German line. Upshot though, German DDs can be very enjoyable but arguably are not the best place to start. Better to start with the purest incarnations of the two classic polar opposite archetypes, the US gunboats or the Japanese torpedo boats. Since it really does not take long to unlock ships on the low tiers, and WG is smothering players in power camos and special signals these days, and hopefully you've been stocking up on port slots during the recent massive 75% discount phase, my suggestion is to unlock the Tier IV and V US and IJN DDs as quickly as possible (Minekaze rather than Mutsuki) and then stick with those for a while but start to grind commander XP instead until you have concealment expert on all of them. Also note the basic DD captain build is PM-LS-SE-CE (or PT instead of PM on gunboats). Any other skills are for later, even though Radio Location is massively useful on basically any DD once you understand how to use it. All of that said, my current personal favourite on the low tiers is Derzki the Tier III Russian DD. It's only got three small pop guns and the torps only have 4km range and hardly do any damage, but it has TEN of the little buggers it can shoot to either side, and they also reload very quickly. It really teaches you to use the terrain for concealment because you just crave the giggle factor of sneaking up on people to flood them with all these torps. I have had a hard time with mid tier Russian DDs though. They retain these super short range 'YOLO' torps, and while they do get very good, hard hitting guns with laser flat shell trajectories, these are mounted in very slow turrets, and the ships themselves also get clumsy, with big turning circles and rudder shifts as well as bad concealment. It takes yet another a different play style which is not everybody's cup of tea. The key advantage of the line though is that they not only get two worthwhile premium DDs (Okhotnik and Leningrad) but you can also easily use a DD commander on the Krasny Krym premium cruiser, which lots of people hate but also lots of people have gotten out of a Santa loot box, and I think it can be good fun. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B--S] colonel_duce Players 251 posts 8,519 battles Report post #27 Posted January 17, 2019 i am at T7 with almost every line, except US which i find not too enjoying for me, lack of stealth torping is something i dont like German line is i think best for beginners, at T5 you get T22, ridiculous little ship, was buffed and with CE captain you can stealth torps easily, had a winrate of 70% in that ship, at T6 you get hydro and optional 150mm guns which can citadel broadside cruisers, at T7 you loose them, but have 5 guns, it`s serious harasser in late stages of game. Japan lines, they can stealth torp but e.g. fubuki has very bad concealment without CE captain, everyone says that japan guns sucks, but to the contrary, they are strongest in the game, yes, rate of fire and turn time is bad, but those guns are strong. what i dont like about japan DDs is their rudder shift time, those ships turn like cows. Panasia has interesting DDs, but i hate T8, slow torps, american guns, you can`t hit anything RN, torpedo range sucks, wihtout CE captain it`s really bad and those DDs bleed HP like hell, too squishy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExtremeShip Players 30 posts 34 battles Report post #28 Posted January 17, 2019 Thanks! I enjoyed the KM destroyers but I found it hard with the tier 5 ship because of tier 5 MM but I think the ships themselves are actually very good so I will probably continue US destroyer line and KM destroyer lines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites