[N3XUS] Yaskaraxx Players 1,101 posts 23,878 battles Report post #1 Posted December 26, 2018 ...NOT trolling here...never do trollings(!)....just wanna state: 11.7 km radar = TOTALLY ABSURD (....& 11.7 kms radar HURTS this game)...I see them...stationary...not even moving whole battle...just "clicking 11.7 kms radar from time to time"...stationary...this is NOT active gaming....11.7 kms, well, it HURTS the game...for many thousands of creative dd-players. STOP IT! look...9km radar...often some 4 enemy in battle having that...THAT is intelligent "Cat & Mouse-play"....requires skills from dd players (=OK)....VERY entertaining...that I admit = FUN! ...but 11.7 km radar...ahhh...no...is killing the battles....so enormeous powerful (ships with 11.7 dont even have to MOVE in battle...fully controlling 2x caps same time...they just "CLICK&WIN"...i know for sure... ...so NOW yr opinions! should 11.7 km radar be totally disappear?...i think so...for a full 100%....MAKE IT ALL 9KM (max)...is "tricky" enough, imho 1 4 8 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #2 Posted December 26, 2018 19,577 battles 2 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #3 Posted December 26, 2018 Considering you usually aren't even within 12km of an enemy ship I don't see how radar can bother you. 1 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N3XUS] Yaskaraxx Players 1,101 posts 23,878 battles Report post #4 Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, aboomination said: 19,577 battles yes, cuz I LOVE THIS GREAT GAME!!!...so that is the very reason i bring "11.7 km radar" to the table....to be discussed by PLAYERBASE...i see what 11.7 does to this great game...so lets take a very good look at it (...btw 9 km radar = fully ok with me....= good for the game!!!....but 11.7 kms???...come one? = absurd) 2 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feign_Death Beta Tester 81 posts Report post #5 Posted December 26, 2018 I will rather be on the recieving end of a Russian radar then a American radar . Its over so damn quick that you most likely wont die. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLAST] Armorin [BLAST] Players 763 posts 13,067 battles Report post #6 Posted December 26, 2018 The 11.7km Russian radar is short duration. It's more of an intelligence tool to work out what the enemy is up to. It's the US/Brit long duration radars that are the real DD death sentences. There are ways to play against it. You can bait their radar before moving in, or spot them for your team to deal with before moving in. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N3XUS] Yaskaraxx Players 1,101 posts 23,878 battles Report post #7 Posted December 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Considering you usually aren't even within 12km of an enemy ship I don't see how radar can bother you. ...nahh....El2aZer....this is serious matter....it has ta be discussed by playerbase....I LOVE THIS GREAT GAME...so now I have to signal...I signal: 11.7 is TOO MUCH! my real true, sincere, honost opinion. So I leave this topic...I have signalled....so now let playerbase put their constructive positive views on the table...I am out (though...i will be watching/following posted comments by playerbase)..i will not comment myself, I said all. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #8 Posted December 26, 2018 edited On 12/26/2018 at 3:28 AM, Yaskaraxx said: it has ta be discussed by playerbase edited On 12/26/2018 at 3:28 AM, Yaskaraxx said: so now let playerbase put their constructive positive views on the table The view is quite clear - radar's fine as is. Unless you suffer from a heavy case of needing to git gud, but then it's not the radar that has the problem 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLAST] Armorin [BLAST] Players 763 posts 13,067 battles Report post #9 Posted December 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: It's 11.7km but short duration and chances are you'll spot the ship with that radar well before he can radar you. Only Chapaev can "stealth radar" you. Don't forget Radar equipped Minotaur. When radar is activated, as soon as the Minotaur fires a shot, a self destruction countdown starts...... 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #10 Posted December 26, 2018 It isn't that big a deal. Worst thing about radar is it slows the game down for DDs as you have to assume the max range of the enemy DD is your concealment range. Unless you're in the mood to bait their shots, besides RU radar like others have said is short duration so the rudder can be used if it's not the entire enemy team shooting you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #11 Posted December 26, 2018 The russian radar as mentioned is not that big if a deal, it has a short duration so just by looking at the minimap you can tell where its going to get poped and can plan ahead.. I found the prenerf US 55 second radar more of a pain, that one if caught by was usually a death sentence for a DD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #12 Posted December 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Armorin said: Don't forget Radar equipped Minotaur Which has a 10km radar, not the 11.7 which we are talking about here 5 minutes ago, Armorin said: When radar is activated, as soon as the Minotaur fires a shot, a self destruction countdown starts...... Did testruns with this vs clanmates a while ago. Me in a YY (18.5k HP), no SE on captain. They - in a full concealment Mino (8.85km) with Radar (+ radar mod for extended duration so 10km x 48s). I'm going straight towards the Mino, full speed. Mino is coming straight towards me, full speed. This produces the worst case scenario where I in a DD am closing in towards the Mino with a relative speed of about 73kts (or actually 192kts due to scaling). To put that speed into perspective I was closing towards the Mino with a speed of 100m/s I in the YY am only "half-paying attention". That means - alt-tabbing to check something in the internet, talking on Discord about something unrelated, looking around, writing something, stuff like that. So I'm not exactly sure about when I'll get radared and I have to react to that As soon as Mino is spotted he pops radar and starts shooting. Only when my YY is radared can I start doing something about it. Every single time I got out with about 3...5k HP left. Then, of course, add 3.5k more from SE which you would normally have. Far from a guaranteed death And this isn't a case of potato aim, it was me as an "above average" DD going vs people who are unicums in cruisers overall and Mino in particular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,535 battles Report post #13 Posted December 26, 2018 When you've played so many battles and still haven't figured out how to deal with radars.... Watch some tutorials dude. Seems like you still have a lot to learn about this great game. Even after 20k battles. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #14 Posted December 26, 2018 russian radar is just a nuisance for DDs.. A moskva can fire 2 max 3 (AR and Radar Mod) tops at that duration. If you get caught to a US radar.. you probably won't leave that spot alive or with much HP at best. I prefer 5 moskvas on the enemy team, rather than 3 Desmos.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #15 Posted December 26, 2018 NO! you destroyers got already a big buff! no more more buffs for you let radar as it is! also 11.7 km radar is absurd but destroyers being able to eat only over pens from 283mm guns and above is not absurd eh? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Teob_ Players 1,625 posts 14,901 battles Report post #16 Posted December 26, 2018 Since the gang is all here, I think this thread is now complete. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #17 Posted December 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Yaskaraxx said: ...i know for sure... proof? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_mlJIAFnOwMVb Players 543 posts Report post #18 Posted December 26, 2018 22 seconds my dude, 24 with the upgrade. get over it and l2p. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RDE-] humpty_1 Players 496 posts 40,980 battles Report post #19 Posted December 26, 2018 it's true that the radar only last 20 secs, but it's not just the ruski ships shooting is it? it will be the yanks/brits etc so if you get caught in open water 9 outa 10 times (prob less) you're dead :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,535 battles Report post #20 Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, humpty_1 said: it's true that the radar only last 20 secs, but it's not just the ruski ships shooting is it? it will be the yanks/brits etc so if you get caught in open water 9 outa 10 times (prob less) you're dead :) Except you can outspot ruskis before they can radar. So if you get caught in open water its actually a misplay by you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #21 Posted December 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, hellhound666 said: proof? feeeeeelings. They can win wars apparently 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_BB] Admiral_Von_Poopypants Players 46 posts 8,550 battles Report post #22 Posted December 26, 2018 The range on the radar is not the problem - the problem is that the one just sitting still behind an island hitting the "see everything within radar range" is the problem, and it still is the problem. A ship sitting behind a rock, will not see what is on the other side the rock using radar, that is NOT how radar works, ESPECIALLY not in WW2 ships. it is an abused game mechanic. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] TheComedian1983 [IDDQD] Alpha Tester 3,888 posts 26,826 battles Report post #23 Posted December 26, 2018 Před 8 hodinami Yaskaraxx řekl/a: ...NOT trolling here...never do trollings(!)....just wanna state: 11.7 km radar = TOTALLY ABSURD (....& 11.7 kms radar HURTS this game)...I see them...stationary...not even moving whole battle...just "clicking 11.7 kms radar from time to time"...stationary...this is NOT active gaming....11.7 kms, well, it HURTS the game...for many thousands of creative dd-players. STOP IT! look...9km radar...often some 4 enemy in battle having that...THAT is intelligent "Cat & Mouse-play"....requires skills from dd players (=OK)....VERY entertaining...that I admit = FUN! ...but 11.7 km radar...ahhh...no...is killing the battles....so enormeous powerful (ships with 11.7 dont even have to MOVE in battle...fully controlling 2x caps same time...they just "CLICK&WIN"...i know for sure... ...so NOW yr opinions! should 11.7 km radar be totally disappear?...i think so...for a full 100%....MAKE IT ALL 9KM (max)...is "tricky" enough, imho We... need... moar... dots....and..... moar .... radars.... and... definitely.... moar... CAPSLOCK! Spojler Damn guys. Topics on EN forum in last few days are funny and sad. Whats wrong with you? 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RDE-] humpty_1 Players 496 posts 40,980 battles Report post #24 Posted December 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: Except you can outspot ruskis before they can radar. So if you get caught in open water its actually a misplay by you. yes true(kinda), but as a dd player (mostly) you need to cap eventually.. it's like someone said too, if they just sit behind an island etc you're basically screwed :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] AndyHill Weekend Tester 1,433 posts Report post #25 Posted December 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Yaskaraxx said: they just "CLICK&WIN"...i know for sure... Then how come you only win 36% of your battles in the click&win Donskoi, 47% in Moskva and 44% in Chapa? Just maybe it's not quite that click&win after all? 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
