OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #1 Posted April 18, 2015 I'm all ok for a DD shooting me from a fog screen while being invisible but for God's sake I had a [edited]annoying Sims shooting me from 8-10 kms with no cover for 4 minutes while being invisible. That should not be possible. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharana Alpha Tester 2,271 posts 1,040 battles Report post #2 Posted April 18, 2015 I'm all ok for a DD shooting me from a fog screen while being invisible... You may be, but I'm not. Hiding and spamming torps is OK, but shooting is too much... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shepbur Alpha Tester 1,545 posts 469 battles Report post #3 Posted April 18, 2015 maximum spotting range of the sims from a BB is 9.5km, any further than that and you're never going to see it no matter what he does. As for smoke, i think the spotting range with gunfire is something like 1-2km, and if you're being lit-up by another ship then he'll easily be able to see you while staying in/behind his smoke screen. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSUN] Aerroon Community Contributor 2,268 posts 12,119 battles Report post #4 Posted April 18, 2015 maximum spotting range of the sims from a BB is 9.5km, any further than that and you're never going to see it no matter what he does. As for smoke, i think the spotting range with gunfire is something like 1-2km, and if you're being lit-up by another ship then he'll easily be able to see you while staying in/behind his smoke screen. Really? Because from what I could tell concealment breaks when you fire your guns even when there is nothing in your concealment range. At least enemies always notice me when I shoot them (the commander skill notifies me). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #5 Posted April 18, 2015 maximum spotting range of the sims from a BB is 9.5km, any further than that and you're never going to see it no matter what he does. That's exactly what I was complaining about. I thought we left those stunts back at the alpha. I want my InviSenjo if it can be done then. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RN] indycar Alpha Tester 921 posts Report post #6 Posted April 18, 2015 wow ppl found out that u can fire your DD guns without getting spotted. every DD can do this you just need to know at what range you must stay to be hidden 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #7 Posted April 18, 2015 wow ppl found out that u can fire your DD guns without getting spotted. every DD can do this you just need to know at what range you must stay to be hidden Well, I did know it happened on alpha but until today I thought they made it so you get uncovered if you shoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TKBS] eidias Beta Tester 199 posts 12,051 battles Report post #8 Posted April 18, 2015 maximum spotting range of the sims from a BB is 9.5km, any further than that and you're never going to see it no matter what he does. Where can we find those data? In the port I found only the minimum distance I'll get spotted without firing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bambusbar Beta Tester 44 posts 4,090 battles Report post #9 Posted April 18, 2015 Isn't that the same? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TKBS] eidias Beta Tester 199 posts 12,051 battles Report post #10 Posted April 18, 2015 i know, but it tells you the range you get spotted by other ships/planes if you don't fire. What Shepbur wrote seems to be another value Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GAMUS] sunday Weekend Tester 233 posts Report post #11 Posted April 21, 2015 Sims is bugged. When one could see the tracers, and not the ship, and at less than 10km... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #12 Posted April 21, 2015 Unfortunately haven't had the chance to play yet but from what im reading here is it like wot where ships cant be spotted till certain distances depending on type of ship? So bigger ships ie BBs will be getting hit by invisible smaller ships? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GAMUS] sunday Weekend Tester 233 posts Report post #13 Posted April 21, 2015 Unfortunately haven't had the chance to play yet but from what im reading here is it like wot where ships cant be spotted till certain distances depending on type of ship? So bigger ships ie BBs will be getting hit by invisible smaller ships? No, and you could easily enter Beta by purchasing a package. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #14 Posted April 21, 2015 No, and you could easily enter Beta by purchasing a package. Yea I could and thanks for replying but will wait till open beta as ive no interest in buying any of the ships in the packages . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azakow Beta Tester 280 posts 619 battles Report post #15 Posted April 21, 2015 Sims is bugged. When one could see the tracers, and not the ship, and at less than 10km... So other US DD are buged too? I'm asking, because Mahan and Benson allows you to do the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flavio1997 ∞ Alpha Tester 1,006 posts 11,990 battles Report post #16 Posted April 21, 2015 guys...the main problem is when a bb like amagi is hiding in someone smoke and you can't see her while she/he is firing... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GAMUS] sunday Weekend Tester 233 posts Report post #17 Posted April 21, 2015 So other US DD are buged too? I'm asking, because Mahan and Benson allows you to do the same. Well, I never found a Mahan or a Benson doing the "portable bush" tactic. Successfully, I mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GAMUS] sunday Weekend Tester 233 posts Report post #18 Posted April 21, 2015 BTW, OP, it is Klingon Cloaking Device. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azakow Beta Tester 280 posts 619 battles Report post #19 Posted April 21, 2015 Well, I never found a Mahan or a Benson doing the "portable bush" tactic. Successfully, I mean. Then it is time to give it a try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PST] Celandri [PST] Alpha Tester 483 posts 7,805 battles Report post #20 Posted April 21, 2015 only ship i seen that can do the super klingon cloaking stunt is Sims at over 10km range. under that they get detected pretty fast. and somehow cruisers have huge range detection 15-20km, and destroyers way longer like 20km+ range, but if you get detected once they loose the cloaking for rest of the battle, and any ship can find you up to 15km including bb unless you use smoke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GAMUS] sunday Weekend Tester 233 posts Report post #21 Posted April 21, 2015 Let me wax lyrically. I've… seen things you people wouldn't believe… Sims destroyers uncloaking and cloaking again at less than 10km. I watched HE tracers come out of a grey fog near the northern cap in North map. All those… moments… will be lost in time, like [small cough] tears… in… rain. Time… to fix those bloody bugs, damnit! (My excuses to Rutger Hauer) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrir2205 Beta Tester 142 posts 1,131 battles Report post #22 Posted April 21, 2015 The smoke effect is just to broken atm, 2 battleships in smoke will stay invisible for as long as they are inside the smoke even when they are shooting. An Atlanta shooting its guns as fast as it could reload stayed invisible at around 10km not getting spotted once. And then there is the smoke effect at long range, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #23 Posted April 21, 2015 You know that the Klingon's only brought the cloaking devices from the Romulans, right? They are Romulan cloaking devices, you salted slug Jesus what a bunch of uncultured swine...... (if you will take this post seriously, I will find you and I will slowly explain to you in great detail why are you a humorless bastard) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entilzha66 Weekend Tester 38 posts 1,039 battles Report post #24 Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah, the torp. animation is broken aswell, I had torps. hit me, heard the sounds but NO visual! After triangulating, the torps were fired from WITHIN a smoke screen. It needs to be adressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GAMUS] sunday Weekend Tester 233 posts Report post #25 Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah, the torp. animation is broken aswell, I had torps. hit me, heard the sounds but NO visual! After triangulating, the torps were fired from WITHIN a smoke screen. It needs to be adressed. Nope, torpedo launching should not break stealth, and does not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites