Two point tactics on EU server

[Arwiden]

51 minutes ago, HMS_Kilinowski said:

Once someone has a theory he is looking for verification and it might blind his judgement.

 

I have resulted above some screenshots, where players write В + С.

On the CIS server they write more specific things, for example:

Destroyer, put the smoke before the point.
Destroyer, let's go together to the point.

etc

Nobody writes "cap b+c"

 

Cooperation is possible, but at the flank level.

You almost never see a circular motion on a map on a CIS server.

This is not a theory, these are facts.

 

On the euro server, people love to push points, walk in groups, and do not like to retreat.
This is what I saw. I played more than 60 games on the euro server on the 10th level ships.

 

I have never seen anything like it on a CIS server even nearby. Never.

 

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And if that red Roon and Kurfürst had some skill, they should have sent your radar-Mino to the bottom. instead they probably shot that Ibuki and didn't land a single hit. Tactics or skill?

I deliberately acted so, the acceleration was towards the island, the shells would fall astern at best, at worst, I would lose 1/3 hp.

[HMS_Kilinowski]

24 minutes ago, Arwiden said:

 

I have resulted above some screenshots, where players write В + С.

On the CIS server they write more specific things, for example:

Destroyer, put the smoke before the point.
Destroyer, let's go together to the point.

etc

Nobody writes "cap b+c"

People on EU-Server write "B+C" cause many different languages are spoken. "B+C" is independent of that, it's a logic term that everybody can understand. English seems to be a standard, given a certain level of education. Not all players have that. You read players writing in many languages not even realizing, nobody understands what they are saying. Pardon my French. What language is spoken on the russian server? Mostly russian? Do most people speak russian, maybe even as native speakers? Would that help promoting more specific plans?

24 minutes ago, Arwiden said:

Cooperation is possible, but at the flank level.

You almost never see a circular motion on a map on a CIS server.

This is not a theory, these are facts.

I am not disputing that you observed that. It is just that certain contrary observations tend to not get the same attention. It's called confirmation bias and it happens in many fields and to the best. 

24 minutes ago, Arwiden said:

On the euro server, people love to push points, walk in groups, and do not like to retreat.

You saw people pushing? On the EU-server? Where is that smilie with the big eyes expressing utter astonishment? Now I know something is off here. If only, for chist's sake, people would push! On EU-server people like to go with the majority, cause they are so insecure about their skills, they don't want to be on the weak side. Once they arrive on the spot they start picking their noses, wondering .... actually not wondering, what's supposed to happen next.

Nobody uses chat apart from insults. Maybe that one guy who repeatedly hits the F3-button on so many different ships, you start wondering if he wanted to switch to torps and accidentally pressed the wrong key, wondering why the torps don't come up.

Then at some point one player cannot take that random action anymore and starts moving towards the cap, pressing F5. The other players look like cows at him getting set on fire, trying to process in their heads, why he would do such a folly. They then comprehend that coming closer to the enemy ships results in being shot at, which leads them to the conclusion that if they turn their ships broadside, they will be able to keep their desired distance, while even being able to get all guns on target.

Now they could potentially experience a moment of self-reflection as they receive multiple citadel hits but they rather express their hope that everybody in the team, including their wives and families and friends and family friends and family friends' tennis partners die of cancer.

But then again that is just my observation and I might be biased.

 

[Arwiden]

34 minutes ago, HMS_Kilinowski said:

What language is spoken on the russian server? Mostly russian? Do most people speak russian, maybe even as native speakers? Would that help promoting more specific plans?

 

The Russian language understands the majority, but the majority plays in a state of altered consciousness, especially on Friday evening.
Therefore, even the "put the smoke next to the point" command looks incredibly complex.
Even more difficult is the command "do not go to the 10th line on the map North."

Maybe that's why on the Russian server, people do not walk in circles. It is too complicated.

 

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You saw people pushing? On the EU-server? Where is that smilie with the big eyes expressing utter astonishment? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here, by the way, no command was given.

 

 

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Now I know something is off here. If only, for chist's sake, people would push! On EU-server people like to go with the majority, cause they are so insecure about their skills, they don't want to be on the weak side. Once they arrive on the spot they start picking their noses, wondering .... actually not wondering, what's supposed to happen next.

Russians have exactly the same problem, only their situation is simpler, they don’t think at all.

Therefore, they come to where they were born and die there.

And more adequate players take advantage of this moment, and while these players die, they do their job.

And this is just interesting, because if these players walked in circles, then experienced players would also have to walk in circles.

Someone taught euro players to walk in a crowd, and this affects the whole gameplay.

[Arwiden]

 

And I thought it was always like this.
It turns out this is a long-standing problem.

[Gleb_Reawer]

On 12/19/2018 at 7:02 PM, Arwiden said:

 

The Russian language understands the majority, but the majority plays in a state of altered consciousness, especially on Friday evening.

 

 

I think you underestimate the language barrier on the EU server.

Within the EU, there are 24 official languages. I have no idea of how many unofficial ones there are, but I sure wouldn't understand a word of f.ex. Welsh if someone used it in chat. The same goes for 21 of the official languages.

While it's true that about 50% of adults(no data on kids) understand English, it doesn't mean they can write it or that they are willing to use it even if they would know it. Even WG understands this, that's why they have made 7 additional sections to these forums with different languages.

 

Wasted on Friday? I think it's closer to Friday, Saturday and half of Sunday. But I'm inclined to believe this is similar on both servers

 

I think it would be quite interesting if we could somehow get random teams from different servers to fight one another. Competitive teams don't really bring out the differences as much due to voice comms, min-maxing and having a team leader calling the shots.

 

On 12/19/2018 at 9:13 PM, Arwiden said:

 

And I thought it was always like this.
It turns out this is a long-standing problem.

 

People have been complaining about bad gameplay and noobs in high tiers right from the start.

The thread you linked is 3 months old, I bet the first thread complaining about this was written no more than 3 months after the game was opened to the public.

[dejohnpence]

I play on SEA. When I watch streamers who are mostly on EU or NA I find a lot of games completely different from how they play on SEA. NA for example seems the most pushy. Speed Test Scrabble Word Finder Solitaire

[Lacomble1942]

WG thanks for earning crap without a premium account.