Latest Leaks From WG Fest 2018 - Discussion Thread

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, AlexFari said:

Arms Race will come back as part of the new format of Ranked Battles ? Uh... Disappointed...

I thought it will be separate type of battle as it was... 

 

It seemed interesting, but I gave up on after a few rounds because I couldn't do any missions and such in Arms Race.

[josykay]

The problem are not paper ships. But only paper ships. The only comissioned ship in the russian line is gangut. With Izmail and Sovjestky Soyuz at least laid down. And funnily enough, the only comissioned ship of the techtree is now ingame TWICE! And no, not ships of the same class, but literally the same ship.

 

USA has 7 comissioned, 1 Paper.

Japan has 5 comissioned, 1 laid down, 2 Papers.

Germany has 6 comissioned one laid down, 1 Paper.

UK has 5 comissioned, one laid down 2 Paper.

France has 3 comissioned, 1 laid down and 4 Papers.

Russia has 1 comissioned, 2 laid down, 5 Papers.

 

WG has shot themselves in the foot with the french and russian bb line, by refusing to add some historical lines in the tech tree. Like the Dunkerque or her sister, that could have replaced Normandie or Lyon, and Kronshtadt, that would have been a bit more fitting as a Tier 7 BB, than a weird fantasy project some engineer did in his freetime, and Russia having neither the fundings, material, infrastructure nor use for that ship.

Also is Russia drunk? What mediterranian squadron?

[1MajorKoenig]

5 minutes ago, josykay said:

The problem are not paper ships. But only paper ships. The only comissioned ship in the russian line is gangut. With Izamail and Sovjestky Soyuz at least laid down. And funnily enough, the only comissioned ship of the techtree is now ingame TWICE! And no, not ships of the same class, but literally the same ship.

 

USA has 7 comissioned, 1 Paper.

Japan has 5 comissioned, 1 laid down, 2 Papers.

Germany has 6 comissioned one laid down, 1 Paper.

UK has 5 comissioned, one laid down 2 Paper.

France has 3 comissioned, 1 laid down and 4 Papers.

Russia has 1 comissioned, 2 laid down, 5 Papers.

 

WG has shot themselves in the foot with the french and russian DD line, by refusing to add some historical lines in the tech tree. Like the Dunkerque, that could have replaced Normandie or Lyon, and Kronshtadt, that would have been a bit more fitting as a Tier 7 BB, than a weird fantasy project some engineer did in his freetime, and Russia having neither the fundings, material, infrastructure nor use for that ship.

Also is Russia drunk? What mediterranian squadron?

 

Black Sea. I believe they had some of these useless Ganguts in the Black Sea.

 

This whole story of Russian Battleships is half funny and half pitiful. I don’t have a problem really with it but it’s getting somewhat extreme now with the great Naval fantasy.

 

The only interesting design for me is the T5 Battlecruiser. Never heard about a Project 707 before - anyone any more info? 

 

I AM IMPRESSED THOUGH THEY MANAGED TO PUT IN A GANGUT WITJOUT REFIT AT T4 !!!

 

(now do the same for KAISER please!)

[Jellicoe1916]

Official Post says "Three New Ship Branches"

Wonder if they'll announce another tomorrow, as they only announced 2 today. 

[FrankvC_Jr]

As far as I know, the Russian BBs are the following (with some alterations/modifications/modernizations)

Tier 3 Skortsov https://goo.gl/images/idsSkb

Tier 4 Gangut class

Tier 5 Is a Putilovski and Blohm  Voss project I bet it is the707-X design with 4x2 356/14 inch guns https://www.amazon.es/Kaisers-Battlefleet-German-Capital-1871-1918/dp/1848322291 In this book appears 

Tier 6 Borodino/Izmail class BCs

Tier 7 Black Sea 1917 project I think although very modified and modernized 

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/images/irn16in1917.jpg

Tier 8 is weird The funnels are trunked and I think may be the missing link between Soviet Soyuz and the tier 7 The tier 8 premium is Project 21 Soviet Nelson 

Tier 9 is Soviet Soyuz 

Tier 10 I bet is Project 24, a Russian Yamato 

 

[josykay]

Don't forget:

Tier 3: Yeah. Wie take that König Albert, but the superfirering turret on the bow... and that will be totally belanced. Because,  König Albert is totally balanced and a ship with better layout even more. As long, as the soft stats are atrocious, that stinks like Powercreep, if they now introduce ships, that are supposed to challenge the unbalanced, removed powerhouse of the tier.

 

Tier 4: She doesn't have AA. Yes. I hope, she will still keep horrendous sigma and gun stats compared to Viribus Unitis. Remenber, she is also very fast, bested only by the two japanese battlecruisers.

 

Tier 5: What is? Kongo 2.0 or Giulio 2.0? I know nothing about it. Neither guns, size or anything else.

 

Tier 6: Sounds pretty dangerous as well. Remember, this is almost a normandie with 14" guns.

 

Tier 7: Oh dear oh dear. That ship most have horrendous soft stats to make it work...   9 406 m guns, reasonable fast... Yeah don't know what to think about that.

 

Tier 8: Interesting ship. Though, if you do give us that... why no Kronshtadt at tier 7?! Why the wird gun caliber jump? Especially since you also announced a sowjet nelson as Tier 8 Premium. Wouldn't that battlecruiser be the petter premium choice?

 

So far, from Tier 3-8 i am very unempressed and they kind of stink already for power creep, or disgustingly atrocious to play.

[Wizmoe]

Quote

A battleship of Project 24. She is armored with three triple 406 mm or 457 mm (optional) turrets. The ship is slightly smaller than Großer Kurfürst, but has a larger water displacement.

Ah of course, smaller than Großer Kurfürst so she's harder to hit and has a smaller turning circle, but still more water displacement so she gets more HP. Also doesn't lose four guns when switching to the bigger guns, unlike Conqueror.

 

But remember everyone, there is no Russian bias here!

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Interestingly, they had one real battleship 'Arkhangelsk', known for its rusted turrets I suppose.. yet are we going to see it in game?

[1MajorKoenig]

3 minutes ago, FrankvC_Jr said:

As far as I know, the Russian BBs are the following (with some alterations/modifications/modernizations)

Tier 3 Skortsov https://goo.gl/images/idsSkb

Tier 4 Gangut class

Tier 5 Is a Putilovski and Blohm  Voss project I bet it is the707-X design with 4x2 356/14 inch guns https://www.amazon.es/Kaisers-Battlefleet-German-Capital-1871-1918/dp/1848322291 In this book appears 

Tier 6 Borodino/Izmail class BCs

Tier 7 Black Sea 1917 project I think although very modified and modernized 

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/images/irn16in1917.jpg

Tier 8 is weird The funnels are trunked and I think may be the missing link between Soviet Soyuz and the tier 7 The tier 8 premium is Project 21 Soviet Nelson 

Tier 9 is Soviet Soyuz 

Tier 10 I bet is Project 24, a Russian Yamato 

 

 

Tier 5 it is indeed project 707. Do you have any more info on that? Looks good :-)

[FrankvC_Jr]

2 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Interestingly, they had one real battleship 'Arkhangelsk', known for its rusted turrets I suppose.. yet are we going to see it in game?

Isn’t it the Royal Sovereign from Royal Navy? 

18 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

 

 

The only interesting design for me is the T5 Battlecruiser. Never heard about a Project 707 before - anyone any more info? 

 

I AM IMPRESSED THOUGH THEY MANAGED TO PUT IN A GANGUT WITJOUT REFIT AT T4 !!!

 

(now do the same for KAISER please!)

Same here! Want pre refit Kaiser! Also the book I listed has some info on that 707 I will put it here for you later 

 

 

707-X design 

4x2 356mm 

213 meters length 

30,6 meters beam

80 000 SHP

 

I assume is a 28-30kts ship but don’t have more data 

[FrankvC_Jr]

There you have it @1MajorKoenig

[Karasu_Browarszky]

13 minutes ago, FrankvC_Jr said:

Isn’t it the Royal Sovereign from Royal Navy? 

 

 

Yup.

[FrankvC_Jr]

1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Yup.

It may be one of a kind premium Maybe a tier 6 overmatching one like Mutsu to Fuso, West Virginia to New Mexico and so on 

[anonym_uwIUL1d5NhOn]

40 minutes ago, Jellicoe1916 said:

Official Post says "Three New Ship Branches"

Wonder if they'll announce another tomorrow, as they only announced 2 today. 

The post reads:

"Less than an hour ago, we wrapped up the World of Warships presentation featuring Konstantin Vessery Pavlov and Sergey WG_Wolfwood Tarasov at WG Fest 2018. To start off, our colleagues reminisced about the years most memorable moments:"

 

So I think they are referring to the 3 branches we got in 2018

French BBs

US Cruiser split

UK DDs

[Jellicoe1916]

3 minutes ago, F353 said:

The post reads:

"Less than an hour ago, we wrapped up the World of Warships presentation featuring Konstantin Vessery Pavlov and Sergey WG_Wolfwood Tarasov at WG Fest 2018. To start off, our colleagues reminisced about the years most memorable moments:"

 

So I think they are referring to the 3 branches we got in 2018

French BBs

US Cruiser split

UK DDs

Ah so it was!

 

Thanks for pointing that out! 

[cookiemonster66]

So 457mm guns on a ruski..guess we have to say for once they are not lying "YET".....they said yamato would have the biggest guns in the game...but lets face it 457mm....might as well be, it crosses all the auto pen barriers, cant trust WG to lie straight in bed lmao. Not surprised, these people will always make the Russian lines just that little bit better than other lines. Understandable as the russki player base is 10x the size of the EU but whatever reason its just the usual bias, and i know the stats have not been released yet but i would put my house on these ships late tier being the new monsters on the blocks, maybe 1 or 2% behind other ships on individual traits but as a total package, will be 20% better. all nations have weakness's good guns, crap armour and speed, good armour crap pen and dispertion, but these 8-10 at least will be close to the top at everything, great speed, armour, rate of fire and pen and great accuracy. Usual bias....can't wait to grab one :). Lets just forget historically the russian navy barely left port due to its ships being unseaworthy all the time and the crews were shockingly bad, which kinda explains russian laser accuracy at least to WG's mind. Simply disregard fact, make something up and therefore it is.

 

Paper ships, Nelson but with better armour, T8 prem looks like NC but better accuracy, armour and dispertion hinted at, not much on th 9 but the 10 looks like a Yammy gunned, armoured and fast monster, and if they stick to the made up national traits laser guns with better pen and accuracy than the yammy...that is a scary thought.

 

Don't get the carpet bombing for Brit carriers tho as the bombers were dive bombers and torp planes, carpet bombing was a land based heavy bomber strategy, another gimmick. But i guess i'm curious enough to wait till it's teased a bit better. Not curious enough to grind carriers but curious none the less.

 

Finally, even tho i am sceptical i gotta say new lines is what keeps the game rolling, look at WoT and it's decline largely due to stagnation of the introduction of complete lines and nations. Give us more choice, and 3 new lines has to be good for the game.

 

[LonesomePolecat]

Indomitable the one already announced as T8 prem. 

[MaayaTakeda]

51 minutes ago, cookiemonster66 said:

.but lets face it 457mm....might as well be, it crosses all the auto pen barriers,

 

no....conqueror has 457mm guns. you need 458 to overmatch 32mm

[wilkatis_LV]

57 minutes ago, cookiemonster66 said:

it crosses all the auto pen barriers

Yamatos 460s overmatch 32mm, 457s get just 31. So no, no they don't.

 

 

[Panocek]

1 hour ago, cookiemonster66 said:

So 457mm guns on a ruski..guess we have to say for once they are not lying "YET".....they said yamato would have the biggest guns in the game...but lets face it 457mm....might as well be, it crosses all the auto pen barriers, cant trust WG to lie straight in bed lmao. Not surprised, these people will always make the Russian lines just that little bit better than other lines. Understandable as the russki player base is 10x the size of the EU but whatever reason its just the usual bias, and i know the stats have not been released yet but i would put my house on these ships late tier being the new monsters on the blocks, maybe 1 or 2% behind other ships on individual traits but as a total package, will be 20% better. all nations have weakness's good guns, crap armour and speed, good armour crap pen and dispertion, but these 8-10 at least will be close to the top at everything, great speed, armour, rate of fire and pen and great accuracy. Usual bias....can't wait to grab one :). Lets just forget historically the russian navy barely left port due to its ships being unseaworthy all the time and the crews were shockingly bad, which kinda explains russian laser accuracy at least to WG's mind. Simply disregard fact, make something up and therefore it is.

 

Paper ships, Nelson but with better armour, T8 prem looks like NC but better accuracy, armour and dispertion hinted at, not much on th 9 but the 10 looks like a Yammy gunned, armoured and fast monster, and if they stick to the made up national traits laser guns with better pen and accuracy than the yammy...that is a scary thought.

 

Don't get the carpet bombing for Brit carriers tho as the bombers were dive bombers and torp planes, carpet bombing was a land based heavy bomber strategy, another gimmick. But i guess i'm curious enough to wait till it's teased a bit better. Not curious enough to grind carriers but curious none the less.

 

Finally, even tho i am sceptical i gotta say new lines is what keeps the game rolling, look at WoT and it's decline largely due to stagnation of the introduction of complete lines and nations. Give us more choice, and 3 new lines has to be good for the game.

 

Difference between 457mm on RU or Conquerror and Yamato class 460mm is VERY distinct. 32mm overmatch.

[Lacomble1942]

3 hours ago, ComradeKatya said:

Sure, let's also remove all of the US, British, Japanese, French, and German ships that never fought or were made.

no problem with that. there will still be enough.

[Tordenskjold23]

Take a look

 

https://imgur.com/a/IfiuAHW

[lovelacebeer]

Well it's not that surprising that Russian BBs are coming, the Russian Server allegedly is very BB heavy so they are playing to their home crowd, I am not interested in them myself and they were not the line I personally wanted to be announced nevertheless I am not surprised. My main concern will be how bad will the the Russian bias be,  I don't mind having more diversity in game in terms of lines of ships as long as they are fairly balanced against existing lines.

 

As for the British CVs they do look great, and whilst I know I'm not a good enough CV player to inflict myself on any team I will enjoy the greater diversity of ships available CV population (especially after the upcoming CV rework which I am holding my tongue on as that's a matter for a different thread), but I will enjoy playing the British CVs in Co Op.

 

I notice the article also said they would be announcing a third line, I do hope it's an Italian line as their ships were pretty good and enough people have been asking for them, but going back to the first part of my opinion it will come down to what WG consider to be good marketing. 

[Crowarior]

Lol... Russian BBs. The line no one wanted and it will only increase the powercreep even further.  

[Anthoniusii]

 

I saw many Soviet BBs that existed only as blueprints.

QUESTION: Will they be over powered comparing to real BBs that proven their worth in the battle?

WG said Lion was under construction as British best BB but it has the same hit points pool with a tier 6 BB when Soviet never existed cruisers have more hit points pool that that battleship!!!!!

Why British ships are so under powered? Conqueror has 18000 hit points less than Yamato when WG advertised that design as the British Yamato attempt (what a joke)!

Where are the British Heavy cruisers? Will they be under powered too? Like the poor LEANDER that its main gun range is EQUAL with 99% of destroyers main gun range that it was supose to hunt and kill?

Why British Battleships do not have RADAR as they were the 1st ships equipted with this device after the Greek Destroyer Vasilisa Olga?

EDIT: AS for arms race i have a proposal based on the features of spesific misions that worked perfectly.

Each team will have a convoy of 3 transport ships moving in the last line of the map's side the team starts. There Destroyers will replanish their torpedo (and finally have a solution to unlimited torpedo launces), ships will have their repairs. Sinking that convoy will give enemy team extra points forcing the team that owns it to guard it ...