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I have a fair amount of them buggers, but till now I have not really used them. I would like to ask the community to help me out a bit here, in my search for an answer to the question:

Which one to use in which (Tier 8-10) ship?

 

Some things first:

  • I'll include my educated guesses up front
  • and then I'll update and correct this post regularly as new answers or information comes from you lot  (ie. I intend this topic to be a "living document" ) 
  •  Main focus is on what ship gives out the best synergy to the captain. I know there can be some odd combinations that happen to work, but I'd like to avoid any "one trick pony"
  • To save space (and to save us all from a wall of text)  I'll not include the specs of the captains.
    You can find this information in the pretty comprehensive Wiki Page, here: http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Unique_Commanders 

 

So, here is my list:

Unique Commanders / Captains
Commander Name What ship to use it in?
Yamamoto Isoroku                 IJN BB, Yamato / Musashi
John Doe & George Doe                 USN BB, Montana / Iowa
                USN CA, Des Moines / Salem
William Halsey                 USN BB, Montana
Jack Dunkirk & Bert Dunkirk                 RN CL, Minotaur / Edinburgh
                RN BB, Conqueror
Jean-Jacques Honoré & Charles-Henri Honoré                 FMN BB, Republice
                FMN Henry IV
Viktor Znamensky & Vasily Znamensky                 VMF Grozovoi
                VMF Moska
Franz von Jütland & Reinhart von Jütland                 ... Absolutely no Idea, Z-52 perhaps?
                DKM Hindenburg

Ovechkin US

Ovechkin USSR

                Gearing
                Grozovoi

 

Any suggestion is welcome! 

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Well, Premium ships have to be included obviously?

 

I use John Doe on Missouri/Salem/US CA line (not at DM yet)

Same for Yamamoto -> Musashi f.e.

 

Jack Dunkirk i use on RN BBs, because the bigger smoke is useless for me, but JoaT is nice for the faster heal, currently on Nelson, DOY, KGV (conqueror some day). Bert im not sure because i already have 19 pt cptns on Fiji/Mino.

 

The german ones i potentially see a use for them on Hindenburg in CBs (alltho i dont feel Hindenburgs are up to date anymore, we dont see them anymore, but im the Hindi player), because i do run Vigilance, and why not have an extra boost? With hydro the torp detection is pretty insane.

 

The list is missing Ovechkin for US/RU or Both.

I use US Ovechkin on DD line because of better SE. Already enough special cptns for CAs/BBs, and they would profit from the faster turret traverse, while DDs dont profit from that. (I think the combo sucks) Ive heard that Clubson might be the go to ship for him.

Same for RU Ovechkin -> DD cptn.

Dual Ovechkin, i dont have him, but i kinda assume the same.

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Honore is great for Henri and Republic, to boost their already fast reload.

 

Ovechkin is great in destroyers for extra SE bonus, for example Gearing.

Jutland is in my Hindenburg.

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John Doe is on DesMoien, Halsey is on BBS (Missouri), ovetchkin US is on pensacola, Yamamoto is on zao, Dunquerke brothers ar eon Belfast/Jutland and Concueror, Znamensky is on Moskva/Kronstadt and ovetchkin on gnjevny, Honore is on Henry IV, Jutland is on hindenburg/sharnhorst

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Yamamoto Isoroku - shima

William Halsey - Monty

John Doe - DesMo & George Doe - Wooster

Jack Dunkirk - Conq & Bert Dunkirk - Reserve

Jean-Jacques Honoré - Republique & Charles-Henri Honoré - Henri

Viktor Znamensky - Reserve & Vasily Znamensky - Grozo

Franz von Jütland - Nurnberg & Reinhart von Jütland - can't find or haven't got him ;)

Ovechkin - nikolai & Ovechkin - Gearing

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Thanks for the replies! I'll include them.

1 hour ago, Salentine said:

Yamamoto Isoroku - shima

William Halsey - Monty

John Doe - DesMo & George Doe - Wooster

Jack Dunkirk - Conq & Bert Dunkirk - Reserve

Jean-Jacques Honoré - Republique & Charles-Henri Honoré - Henri

Viktor Znamensky - Reserve & Vasily Znamensky - Grozo

Franz von Jütland - Nurnberg & Reinhart von Jütland - can't find or haven't got him ;)

Ovechkin - nikolai & Ovechkin - Gearing

Yamamoto on shima?? hmm may I ask why?

 

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yamamoto: yammie/ijn bb's

 

ovechkin: kidd/khaba

 

seagull(duuh): monti/usn bb's

 

halsey: des moines/salem (usn ca's)

 

znamensky: moskva/russian ca's

 

jütland... buhuhuhuhu :(...: damned him onto a full AA spec hipper. running german hydro where i can, so this one... yeah :(.....

 

dunkirk bros: conq/rn bb's, belfast/rn cl's (preferably belfast. no other ship is made like that one for the nations unique commander imo)

 

honore: repub/french bb's

 

 

as i only got the ovechkin and the dunkrik double, other 2nd choices not had to be made yet here.

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Yamamoto Isoroku - Yamato

William Halsey - Monty/Missouri

John Doe - Don't have it

Jack Dunkirk - belfast

Jean-Jacques Honoré -Henry

Viktor Znamensky - Don't have it

Franz von Jütland - Training him to 19 pts on Bismarck, later might end up on Hindy

Ovechkin bros - in reserve, no use for them just yet

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Halsey CAs Balti, Salem, will go to des Moines finally - I love switching AP/HE in one second. 

Yamamoto -  Kitakaze, Haru, extra smoke with first blood. Ruski is waiting for BB line or if I will grind Gorozo. Dunkirk bros still in training on DDs now, but will go to BBs or CLs. 

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1 hour ago, tasman_devil said:

Thanks for the replies! I'll include them.

Yamamoto on shima?? hmm may I ask why?

 

Preventive Maintainence.... though i also think thats a wasted Captain there ;)

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1 hour ago, tasman_devil said:

Thanks for the replies! I'll include them.

Yamamoto on shima?? hmm may I ask why?

 

For the same reasons as on Yamato - extra consumable on First Blood, heal and reload boost in case of Kraken. Skill wise, EM will be handy for those players not afraid to open fire.

 

Hodore captain is borderline essential on Henry IV, as you need improved EM to keep turrets on target during hard maneuvers. Obviously, if you're of island camping variety then it matters little.

 

Ovechkin improved EM and SE screams Gremyashchy and Leningrad

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Halsey = Montana, because it is easy to get confederate with the Montana. Only 20% damage to 6 ships, which is between 6-10 salvo's. This way you can more easily turn games into your favour. 
Yamamoto= Using her on my Zao, because it is easy to get First Blood with the Zao. I guess he fits best on the ship you play best.
Znamensky= Survivability build for my Moskva. 
Ovechkin (both) =  DDs.
Dunkirk= Currently on my Daring for CB's. 
 

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FWIW:

  • Yamamoto Isoroku - I have him on Musashi, assuming eventually to put him on Yamato, if I ever get that far.
  • Oven Chicken (US) - he's sitting on Kidd at the moment, for use as specialised AA/Guns DD captain (I already had okay captains up to T10 on my US DDs).
  • Oven Chicken (Russian) - currently being used to grind the gunboat DD line, although only on T7 so far.
  • Dunkirk - one of these is on Belfast, as a specialised captain; the other will probably end up on TX RN CL, when I get to it.
  • Honore - just assigned to Terrible (having previously been my 'sensible' captain for Gascogne, until I decided that a manly build was more fun).

Can't remember what I've done with the others that I have - probably ought to go and check I haven't done anything excessively stupid with them - thanks for the reminder OP!


 

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BTW what do people think of the PA unique captains? I'm thinking one of them on the T9 DD eventually (not bothering with the T10), and the other for Irian/Huanghe...?

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2 hours ago, Verblonde said:

BTW what do people think of the PA unique captains

Yeah, I got "Da Rong" PA captain given free for completing all the mission stages. But the tech tree for PA only has DD ships and no cruisers, unless you buy that premium one. Have tried him on the T6 DD, the Fushun. Not researched PA ships any higher than that yet. T6 DD with decent long smoke, good range torps for T6 of 8k and nice ship speed - but the turret transverse trying to use the guns is way too slow, even with EM skill used.

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52 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

What about the latest Pan-Asian commanders? 

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/game-updates/lunar-new-year-2019/ 

 

Well, a DD would probably be best seeing as that's all there really is in the Pan Asian tech tree. They buff SE and DE so that fits. 

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9 hours ago, Verblonde said:

BTW what do people think of the PA unique captains? I'm thinking one of them on the T9 DD eventually (not bothering with the T10), and the other for Irian/Huanghe...?

Irian and some dd, already have a 19pt on chung, first thougt to maybee use it on yy but since i sold it off recently until they fix that bs they did with it it wont be on yy

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Well, I put Yamamoto in my Mogami so I could possibly take advantage of most bonuses he offers. It is also the IJN ship I am most likely to get a First Blood in AND the only way to get the much needed heal for Mogami, hehehe.

 

The others, as follows:

1) Mr. Doe (ex. Seagull), his Bro and Mr Halsey unassigned, as of yet but going to put them in US BB's when I get them.

2) Jack Dunkirk in Fiji, saving the evil twin for Exeter.

3) JJ Honore currently in Friant, haven't got his bro yet but prolly will put him into either Algerie or Emile, whichever is performing the worst, when I get around to it.

4) 1st Zhimenky bro in Octiabirskaya, haven't got the other yet, Russian Ovetshkin in Kiev, American version in Kidd.

5) 1st Jutland bro in Hipper, not recruited the other one yet.

6) Da Rong unassigned but probably Loyang, when I get her, the other guy not yet recruited.

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Doe, Halsey - NY, NM and derivatives for his EM or heavy cruisers for his EL

 

Jutland - his Vigilance can be a poor man's hydro for cruisers that want to use Def AA

 

Znamensky - Okt Rev, Kronstadt or mid-tier DDs

 

Ovechkin - mid-tier DDs

 

Da Rong - DDs

 

Dunkirk - CLs, BBs with superheal or awful turret traverse

 

Honore - Aigle, mid-tier BBs

 

Yamamoto - mid-tier DDs

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My German ones are headed for the Kurfürst and Hindenburg.

 

Using one of them maxed out on Roon currently and it is ok. Regarding Hindenburg, the ship has a great deal of flexibility anyway and it is easy to envision a play style where both the enhanced skills increase the ship's utility for the team even further. I am mostly considering Clan Battles, of course - Tier X Randoms don't interest me very much.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UDqctb8pVpiyYBZZdgE7LzkwphdJ6hjUQpgRA_9CZpk/edit#gid=1700316440

 

The latest Flamu Kurfürst build (12 Dec 2018) suggests EM or JOAT as the final skill to grab. Again, not using the ship regularly in Random but only sporadically in Clan Battles. Didn't have Herr Jütland on that ship last season, only a 12-point regular guy, and in the few battles I had, I did mostly OK to great without EM. The shortened consumable cooldown will be welcome, helping with the tankiness for brawling - more hydro uptime and quicker heals and damage cons. Second-but-last skill of that suggestion was BS and it is easy to envision having V instead. It stacks with hydro and is afaik the only way to get more than 3km torpedo spotting range.

 

The only problem would be that the build would not be completely ideal to use on the German premium BBs. Not very interested in PEF here but König Albert is (even more) agonizing without EM, and Scharnhorst doesn't need V imho. If that were your only 19-point commander, that could be a small luxury problem. However, I can see that build working all the better on Graf Spee instead.

 

 

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Yamamoto on Yamato (and also use him for Musashi, Mutsu and Tachibana Lima lol)

Dunkirk on Conqueror. The other Dunkirk I can't remember where I put him.

Halsey on Iowa, but will use on Montana once I get her. Also use him for Missouri and Texas.

Honoré I think I moved back to Richelieu or put him on the HIV?

The special Russian commander, I think on my Moskva?

The special German commander was on my Bismarck I think, mostly for secondary missions. Also use him on my Scharnhorst on which Vigilance is a really good skill to use, but expensive at 3 points.

USN Ovenchicken is on my Benson. Also use him on my Sims and my Black.

USSR Ovenchicken was on my Donskoi, but moved him to another ship now as Donskoi is elited now.

Rang is on the tier 6 DD.

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