Developer Diaries: Update 0.7.12 - Discussion Thread

[Tivook]

14 hours ago, Gl0cK_17 said:

Paying to acces a campaign?

are you guys of the plot?

The game is free to play. That does not equal completely free to play.

[Rolesz81]

Hey Guys,

 

Only one question remains about the "snowflake" thing.

What If I buy a ship after 0.7.12 hits? Will it count, or just the ships alrady in the port counts?

 

Any info about this?

 

[Klopirat]

Vor 1 Minute, Rolesz81 sagte:

Any info about this?

sure, MrConway has replied to this question already several times...and you will get snowflakes also for new ships...

[PiXiE93]

Wait an minute.. The steel giants campaign WILL BE SOLD IN PREMIUM SHOP.. Cmon WG.. isnt enough how you milk our wallets with all kind of sh**s, 20 containers for 60 euros and you get an KRASNY KRYM.. And now we have to pay for an stinking campaing..... Like last year, when Asia and NA servers got ton of goodies, while EU got s**t, and when WG had full scale rebellion in their hands, then they had sudden rush of sh*t to their brains and said, oh yeah, sry, yes you shall get everything like rest of them.. Stop milking us and stop milking guys who aint in clans for that tiny bits of steel so at least they have little stinking bit of chance to get that OP Stalingrad..

Thank You!

[Peter_Snowmane]

Last christmas I purchased the HMS Duke of York, the event ship of christmas past, to save time. 

 

The Duke of York is the worst kind of turkey imaginable.

 

It has inferior reload, inferior agility and one less heal compared to the regular tech tree ship - her real life sister the HMS KIng George V.

 

Here are my suggestions for fixing that ship: same reload as the KGV, same amount of heals, T7 duration radar instead of that ridiculously useless sonar (seriously WG - we are supposed to chase DDs with a truly clumsy BB that has a short range sonar - and don't tell me it's good for dodging torps because it just isn't in the lead sled of T7 BBs). The worse agility can be kept to compensate for the enhanced AA.

 

I will probably buy the Friedrich but if someone tells me it's a turkey on par with the DoY I simply won't. I have the DoY, the KGV, the Hood and the Nelson. I can only bring myself to play Hood and Nelson as the quality discrepancy between KGV and DoY is too much to bear. It makes me dislike both ships. Real life DoY was an immensely powerful ship and not KGV's atrophied sibling with rusted asunder gun barrels and sailors less competent at repairing things.

 

It's been one year since the Duke was launched in the game. High time to fix it, don't you think ?

 

 

[_CHILE_]

16 minutes ago, Peter_Snowmane said:

Last christmas I purchased the HMS Duke of York, the event ship of christmas past, to save time. 

 

The Duke of York is the worst kind of turkey imaginable.

 

It has inferior reload, inferior agility and one less heal compared to the regular tech tree ship - her real life sister the HMS KIng George V.

 

Here are my suggestions for fixing that ship: same reload as the KGV, same amount of heals, T7 duration radar instead of that ridiculously useless sonar (seriously WG - we are supposed to chase DDs with a truly clumsy BB that has a short range sonar - and don't tell me it's good for dodging torps because it just isn't in the lead sled of T7 BBs). The worse agility can be kept to compensate for the enhanced AA.

 

I will probably buy the Friedrich but if someone tells me it's a turkey on par with the DoY I simply won't. I have the DoY, the KGV, the Hood and the Nelson. I can only bring myself to play Hood and Nelson as the quality discrepancy between KGV and DoY is too much to bear. It makes me dislike both ships. Real life DoY was an immensely powerful ship and not KGV's atrophied sibling with rusted asunder gun barrels and sailors less competent at repairing things.

 

It's been one year since the Duke was launched in the game. High time to fix it, don't you think ?

 

 

He needed fix in the start since boat is complete trash comparable to tech tree same tier ships.

P.S. since he will not get any upgrade I sold him shortly after get him.

[Ysterpyp]

2 hours ago, Klopirat said:

and you will get snowflakes also for new ships

cool, will i get a snowflake for cb rental ships 

[GABEROFF]

16 hours ago, _VAMPA_ said:

24 TXs in port

and same amount of T9s

lucky me.

 Well done, mate! Greetings to BGNAV from me, Mighty GABEROFF! 

[Klopirat]

Vor 8 Minuten, Ysterpyp sagte:

cool, will i get a snowflake for cb rental ships 

from the dev bulletin:

Zitat

To knock a Snowflake off a ship, you need to win a battle of any type, except for Clan and Training Battles.

so let's wait how it comes to the live server...

[Sznyper]

And when the update comes? Right before X-Mass?

[Tivook]

When is the patch expected to release?

[1MajorKoenig]

15 minutes ago, Tivook said:

When is the patch expected to release?

 

Next Thursday?

[Gl0cK_17]

7 hours ago, Tivook said:

The game is free to play. That does not equal completely free to play.

the ability to speak, does not make one sentient either.

[TheLostDane]

So regarding the new premium account - only for WoWs..

Just bought almost a year premium account - just before I heard about the new account type. Only play WoWs, not WoT or any other games from WG... 

Will it be possible to exchange "normal" premium account to the new WoWs premium account?

[Tivook]

4 minutes ago, Gl0cK_17 said:

the ability to speak, does not make one sentient either. 

It's kinda sad that a beta tester of a free to play game still hasn't understood the fundametal basic understanding that the free content that everyone is able to enjoy is actually paid for by those who decide to spend cash.

Be grateful that anything is free because in the end, nothing is free.

[anonym_2hneAFaIyP4T]

9 minutes ago, TheLostDane said:

Just bought almost a year premium account - just before I heard about the new account type. Only play WoWs, not WoT or any other games from WG... 

Will it be possible to exchange "normal" premium account to the new WoWs premium account?

There is no need - they do it automatically. As a bonus, you get to keep the years 'normal' premium time so IF you decide you want to try WOT or WOWp you will still be running premium bonuses on those titles too... a win win basically :).

[MS_Surface]

On 12/13/2018 at 3:41 PM, Tivook said:

It's kinda sad that a beta tester of a free to play game still hasn't understood the fundametal basic understanding that the free content that everyone is able to enjoy is actually paid for by those who decide to spend cash.

Be grateful that anything is free because in the end, nothing is free.

You are wrong. It doesn't work like that in any free to play game. Players that spend money also need the other players, otherwise they would be playing against bots. In free to play games, don't ever think that only paying players support the game. All players have the same importance and all support the game, either by playing it or paying for it.

[Marccus]

14 hours ago, MS_Surface said:

You are wrong. It doesn't work like that in any free to play game. Players that spend money also need the other players, otherwise they would be playing against bots. In free to play games, don't ever think that only paying players support the game. All players have the same importance and all support the game, either by playing it or paying for it.

Partly right, partly wrong.

Wrong: All players have same importance. Devs need money just to run servers and stuffs.

Right: All players do support games. Free players create user base, spread word. 

So there is importance of both group, but it is  not same; no money, no game.

 

[Brinckie]

Indeed as said bij Marccus.

Without paying customers there would be nothing to play, since developers and such of wows and WG employees need to be paid also.

But without players the game would also die, less fast though.

 

Money makes the world go round.

Total war: Arena quiting being such an example, if there is no income from a game the plug gets pulled, no mather how many free to play players in it.

[cpt_sparrow_jack]

make steel giants mission available for ingame doublons

[Tivook]

On 12/14/2018 at 8:25 PM, MS_Surface said:

You are wrong. It doesn't work like that in any free to play game. Players that spend money also need the other players, otherwise they would be playing against bots. In free to play games, don't ever think that only paying players support the game. All players have the same importance and all support the game, either by playing it or paying for it.

Then please explain what would happen if no-one paid in your stalinist "everyone have the same importance".

If free players wouldn't exist you'd only encounter paying customers, just like in any other game that isn't free to play, therefore your opinion is wrong.

"Everyone have the same importance".. funny joke.

[Bambunas]

Is it important to have the ship at the habour before the patch hit the live server or will i get a snowflake to if i buy a ships after the patch is released ?

 

mfg Bambunas

[ColonelPete]

It makes no difference.

[Babysote]

Can we expext Zara Class Heavy Cruiser soon? Now there is a DD for italy soon, its two ships that miss for italians so far, the CV Aquila (ca 90% completed) and Heavy Cruisers Zara

[MS_Surface]

22 hours ago, Tivook said:

Then please explain what would happen if no-one paid in your stalinist "everyone have the same importance".

If free players wouldn't exist you'd only encounter paying customers, just like in any other game that isn't free to play, therefore your opinion is wrong.

"Everyone have the same importance".. funny joke.

Well they (paying players) won't have a lot of people to play with, right? By the way, why do you think it's a free to play game? Do you think that's because WG doesn't like money or because maybe they need an actual player base so that paying players even exist? They chose this business model because being free, it brings a lot of players, even non-paying players will bring paying ones. Obviously paying players support the game but time has a value and free players pay with their time, sometimes "paying more" than paying customers. They both complement each other. They are not more or less important. I don't even know why are we debating this as it is a known fact in a popular business model.

Now if you are being ironic, it can only be with the way the business model is applied or with it's balance. So far, even with a few OP Premium, i don't really feel there's an advantage if you pay for it. You grind faster, you get stuff faster, you make more credits and xp but you don't really play better because of that.