Warships Premium Account - Discussion Thread

[buccaneer_invader]

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[NihalRainstorm]

One word: [edited]!

Everything else will be simply adding more fuel in my opinion. "Why should players have the same premium for all accounts from the same Game Provider when we can force players that actively play more than one game and want more from a game to pay extra money?"

Mark my words WG, what is happening now with WOT in in your player base, will soon affect all your games, it will not be today, tomorrow or the next year, but you will push players there, this is just another step. The more you fear something the more your fears will get closer and closer.

I read another's player opinion about getting players in high tiers way to quick, without knowing what they are doing and he s right, there are already so many players at high tiers that have no idea what they are doing and I mean: no IDEA. high tier DD's that instead of running and capping engage without any need 4 ships, BB's that fire HE at broadside cruisers and no, not English BB's, cruisers/BB's that have no stealth charging at the enemy spwan. This "new move" on getting players to pay to go forward will only make more and more noobs get at higher tiers and bring more and more people to a disgruntled conclusion that there is no point in putting effort in the game. As such with time it will be your player base that will have to suffer.

 

GL you boys will need it more and more as time passes by. Don't measure your fortune in the short term, start looking on the long one(deacdes.)

 

Best regards

[ClaseChurruca1]

Is there the possibility to change my current Wargaming Premium Account into a Warships Premium Account?

[Gorzki]

so for people like me it only means "no more premium time can be get from playing world of warships"

[Heal_My_Bacon]

Intresting...  Its no brainer for me. I only play WoWs these days.

[Ferry_25]

Great idea WG! Please give me a time machine to go back 2.5 years ago though. I nearly grinded all the ships lines. (air * horrible disease* not counting as a serious wows line here). I don't care for driving 10 meters, get tracked and die to the next same routine or not being able to get airborne at all in other titles. Seriously: I actually didn't figure out to get a plane airborne when I tried wowp. Somehow I didn't find a "battle" button in the client. And since the rework I don't want to try it because I don't want the game center. Period. Clean client or no deal.

 

[Silentraz]

11 hours ago, ClaseChurruca1 said:

Is there the possibility to change my current Wargaming Premium Account into a Warships Premium Account?

After 7.12 You will have both. Now you have to 30 July? After update you have all games 50% and WOWS 65% to 30 July.

Later you choose type of prem account, with expections:

Missions, updates etc in WOT - all games 50%

Missions, Containers, Campaigns, Operations - only WOWS 65%

 

In old way - was simply adding of premium account. After 7.12 both types will be at same time.

So if you get 5 days in WOT and 7 days in WOWS:
-before 7.12 it could be simply 12 days longer premum

-After 7.12 you have 5-days of "50+65" premium account and 2 days of "0+65" premium account.

[Justforlol_Z]

23 hours ago, Salentine said:

EH? it's not forcing you to buy anything else, it's giving you the choice between two options, those who only play ships and those who play other titles too, plus any time you have when the patch hits gets converted to ships premium and normal premium for free so you get 2x premiums times at once...

do you want to bet within a year WOWS will no longer accept the old prem acc? they have done that with the doubloons also remember???

[Justforlol_Z]

13 hours ago, buccaneer_invader said:

How do I get the HMS BELFAST, and not any other ship. Want to keep my fleet British. Am 72 now poss  be 90 when its for sale.

 

THANKS.

 

buy santas boxes amd you might get a belfast m8, maybe.... after you spend like 1000 euro, it happen to me i spent almost 1000 british  pounds to get the Kamikaze and not a chance, yes i got nice things in tows boxes but not what i want. so my advice for you is to wait till when the selling is almost over and try to get some boxes but do not spent to much.

[MrConway]

16 hours ago, Smegger213 said:

Seems to me that this move penalises players that play other Wargaming games.

I play WoT and WoW.

I normally buy my premium time on WoT.

But now you want me to get separate WoW premium time, just to get 15% more XP.

 

This is clearly unfair to players with just Wargaming premium time.

 

It doesn't penalize you, you will continue to receive the same benefits in all three games with your Wargaming premium time.

 

If you play multiple of our games, you can and probably should just stick to Wargaming premium time.

 

This whole initiative is aimed at players that don't play the other titles.

 

16 hours ago, PhantomSailor said:

Reading the first section.... THAT confused me.. Did you guys also add better Credit gain too, like I suggested or is this a typo??

Premium Account is an integral part of the Wargaming universe.
Having Premium Account enables you to progress through the game and scale new heights within it more quickly, by providing more credits and XP. 

There isn't a way for Experience to influence Credit gain that I know of to say you earn more with this new Premium Experience system..
Anyone that can shed some light on this? (Either to educate me or correct me)

 

This talks about premium time in general, which does provide a 50% credit boost.

 

12 hours ago, ClaseChurruca1 said:

Is there the possibility to change my current Wargaming Premium Account into a Warships Premium Account?

 

Upon release of 0.7.12 you will get this automatically. We will give you the same amount of Warships Premium time as you have Wargaming Premium time.

[anonym_1RHLzHabUBJN]

This time next year...

 

Want to play WoWs?: Need a WoWs Prem Acc

Want to play WoT?: Need a WoT Prem Acc

Want to play that other WG game?: Need a lobotomy.

 

Clearly to me me they are separating the various WG titles in order to increase revenue for each.  No company just does stuff to improve the customer experience, they do it to improve revenue (and hopefully profits)

Maybe the are even planning on spinning off WoWs to a purchaser at some point sop need to separate it?

 

Either way, this is not for the players benefits (longer term) it is for WG's benefits.

[Smegger213]

2 minutes ago, MrConway said:

 

It doesn't penalize you, you will continue to receive the same benefits in all three games with your Wargaming premium time.

 

If you play multiple of our games, you can and probably should just stick to Wargaming premium time.

 

This whole initiative is aimed at players that don't play the other titles.

 

 

This talks about premium time in general, which does provide a 50% credit boost.

 

 

Upon release of 0.7.12 you will get this automatically. We will give you the same amount of Warships Premium time as you have Wargaming Premium time.

Of course it penalises me. People with a WoW Premium account get 15% extra XP than me that just has a Wargaming Premium account.

You are giving people that just play WoW an advantage.

How is that FAIR?

[Silentraz]

@MrConway, is it done on purpose, that will be harder to get premium time from WOWS to WOT and vice versa?

[chorltonandthewheelies]

@ mr Conway

 

here's by 2d worth:

I play wows only

I run a premium account. it currently stands at 235 days. I buy 6 or 12 months at a time usually.

clan wars is in progress, for which 30 wins at storm level or above will net you 30 days premium account as one of the rewards.

so, previous to 0.7.12, if I achieved the reward today, my premium account would stand at 265 days.

now, after the release, I will get 25 x 30 doubloons instead = 750 doubloons

12 months of premium costs 24000 doubloons.

so effectively, 2000 doubloons a month if purchased 12 months at a time.

so instead of 30 days premium, aka 2000 doubloons worth of premium time, you're going to give me 750 doubloons instead: am I correct?

 

[MrConway]

1 hour ago, Smegger213 said:

Of course it penalises me. People with a WoW Premium account get 15% extra XP than me that just has a Wargaming Premium account.

You are giving people that just play WoW an advantage.

How is that FAIR?

 

You have the same option to purchase Warships Premium account as any other player, and on release you will also benefit from the free conversion to Warships Premium. 

 

1 hour ago, Silentraz said:

@MrConway, is it done on purpose, that will be harder to get premium time from WOWS to WOT and vice versa?

 

This will sound funny - but the answer is both yes and no.

 

By having Warships only premium time we will much easier be able to use this as a reward for in-game activities, as it will only affect the World of Warships in-game economy. So I would say that it will probably be easier to get Premium time by playing World of Warships in future, but this will only work in World of Warships.

 

32 minutes ago, chorltonandthewheelies said:

@ mr Conway

 

here's by 2d worth:

I play wows only

I run a premium account. it currently stands at 235 days. I buy 6 or 12 months at a time usually.

clan wars is in progress, for which 30 wins at storm level or above will net you 30 days premium account as one of the rewards.

so, previous to 0.7.12, if I achieved the reward today, my premium account would stand at 265 days.

now, after the release, I will get 25 x 30 doubloons instead = 750 doubloons

12 months of premium costs 24000 doubloons.

so effectively, 2000 doubloons a month if purchased 12 months at a time.

so instead of 30 days premium, aka 2000 doubloons worth of premium time, you're going to give me 750 doubloons instead: am I correct?

 

 

You are not correct. :)

 

If you complete the mission prior to 0.7.12 you will get 30 days of Wargaming Premium time that will then be converted for free. If you complete it after the update it will give you 30 days of Warships Premium, which will simply be added to your existing Warships Premium time.

[MrConway]

I can recommend checking out what @Ev1n has to say about Warships Premium in our latest dev diary!

 

 

[anonym_1RHLzHabUBJN]

18 minutes ago, MrConway said:

I can recommend checking out what @Ev1n has to say about Warships Premium in our latest dev diary!

 

 

Thanks for the honesty there... It's clearly to protect revenue across the WG title range.

[chorltonandthewheelies]

tyvm mr Conway :)

[Alex2004BG]

Fantastic idea! Very well done and it was about time to do it!

 

Thanks!

 

Also @MrConway I missed your stream this week!

[Potrkalo]

What about credits? I have enough XP.

Why dont you also give bonus there?

 

If Wows premium is giving extra 15% on xp it would be fair to extend that also on credits and captain xp.

[Klopirat]

Vor 6 Minuten, Potrkalo sagte:

captain xp.

as the article already shows: a bonus on XP also affects captain XP, in the same way as XP...

[MrConway]

5 hours ago, Alex2004BG said:

Fantastic idea! Very well done and it was about time to do it!

 

Thanks!

 

Also @MrConway I missed your stream this week!

 

Tune in tonight for a history special, should be great! :)

 

3 hours ago, Potrkalo said:

What about credits? I have enough XP.

Why dont you also give bonus there?

 

If Wows premium is giving extra 15% on xp it would be fair to extend that also on credits and captain xp.

 

We decided not to add a credit bonus as a lot of players already have an abundance of credits and we have many other ways to enhance credit income already in game (signals, camos etc.).

 

But as mentioned, this already affects captain XP as that is based on regular XP.

[Cao_de_Aqua]

Not very  useful add on, my biggest problem is XP earrings in this  game, there are to much XP earrings in the first place, can't really use my XP other than researching trees  I don't want in the first place...

Looking forward to a WOWS in more of a blockchain novel gaming approach, to much dead XP in the game, Wargaming has to change and to adopt to new business models aka blockchain platforms, give something back to the players of real value like ETH...

[Psticide]

sad to read all of this, it means wargaming as a company has failed to reach it multiple supported titles goals and the only left over two succesfull titles are wot and wows and wg looking to milk the final remaining money out of ships and tanks as much as possible. No new games in the works, arena failing and canceled. No new games in the works that currently have been announced.

 

The future 5 years ago looked bright, one premium account one gold wallet, many games, now that future is officialy gone , i once bought 30k gold cause i was led to bilieve gold would work in ships, that should have been the first sign  :(

 

Its lame, its confusing , and it serves no purpose 

 

Worst of all it kills the dream of one day having all three universes together where air land and sea are all ine one massive  map or mode  with some infantry or mechanized infatry included, RIP dream 

[anonym_1RHLzHabUBJN]

14 hours ago, Psticide said:

sad to read all of this, it means wargaming as a company has failed to reach it multiple supported titles goals and the only left over two succesfull titles are wot and wows and wg looking to milk the final remaining money out of ships and tanks as much as possible. No new games in the works, arena failing and canceled. No new games in the works that currently have been announced.

 

The future 5 years ago looked bright, one premium account one gold wallet, many games, now that future is officialy gone , i once bought 30k gold cause i was led to bilieve gold would work in ships, that should have been the first sign  :(

 

Its lame, its confusing , and it serves no purpose 

 

Worst of all it kills the dream of one day having all three universes together where air land and sea are all ine one massive  map or mode  with some infantry or mechanized infatry included, RIP dream 

It certainly reveals the writing on the wall.

 

Enjoy your tanks and ships for the short while they have left.  Once WG have milked all they can from them they will be gone.  Probably about the time most countries ban in game transactions, gambling etc and the makers then have a choice:

1) Go back to the Outright Purchase model (Not gonna happen FYI)

2) Go back to a subscriptions model (Probably, for high player base titles)

3) Kill the games.  (Most likely for any game that has a lowish player base)

 

Note that the player base for WoWs is nowhere near enough to support a subscription model unless they charge upwards of $50 a month, which no one is likely to pay, but which they would need to in order to match current revenues based on server numbers.

 

WoT, maybe. It has enough players at the moment.