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14 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

Too confusing for WG.

 

Well considering WG solution for West Virginia they could simply call them

 

American/United States Enterprise

British Enterprise

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12 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

Well considering WG solution for West Virginia they could simply call them

 

American/United States Enterprise

British Enterprise

 

I think my point was that the idea of win-win was too confusing for WG, I think they've only got as far as "we win, you lose".

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1 minute ago, Capra76 said:

 

I think my point was that the idea of win-win was too confusing for WG, I think they've only got as far as "we win, you lose".

 

Oh. sorry, my mistake.

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10 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

Oh. sorry, my mistake.

 

To be fair I'm not being completely serious.

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In no particular order. Except the first one....

 

 

HMS Sheffield

HMS Dido

HMS Royalist

HMS Ulysses (fictional but it's a good book)

HMS Exeter

HMS Carlisle

HMS London (post rebuild)

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2 hours ago, pzkpfwv1d said:

Sheffield is already in the game as a Silver ship at T7

 

No it isn't. 

Southampton/Gloucester class are quite a bit different, they have the same citadel as Leander for starters. Prob the best RN CL design for WOWS, a bit like Cleveland.

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29 minutes ago, SirDixie said:

HMS Royalist

HMS Ulysses (fictional but it's a good book)

Aren't they both in essence the same ship.

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25 minutes ago, creamgravy said:

 

No it isn't. 

Southampton/Gloucester class are quite a bit different, they have the same citadel as Leander for starters. Prob the best RN CL design for WOWS, a bit like Cleveland.

I beg to differ but HMS Sheffield is already in game in the guise of her sister ship HMS Edinburgh

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1 minute ago, pzkpfwv1d said:

I beg to differ but HMS Sheffield is already in game in the guise of her sister ship HMS Edinburgh

Edinburgh is the T8.

 

Also, the Southampton and Edinburgh sub-groups would be considered different classes in most other navies.

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19 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

Aren't they both in essence the same ship.

Pretty much. But we all know how WG loves paper projects :Smile_teethhappy:

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21 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

Edinburgh is the T8.

 

Also, the Southampton and Edinburgh sub-groups would be considered different classes in most other navies.

The Royal Navy Between the Wars, 1919-1939 HU69048.jpg
HMS Southampton in 1937
History
56px-Naval_Ensign_of_the_United_Kingdom.United Kingdom
Name: HMS Southampton
Builder: John Brown & Company, Clydebank, Scotland
Laid down: 21 November 1934
Launched: 10 March 1936
Commissioned: 6 March 1937
Identification: Pennant number: C83
Fate: Sunk off Malta, 11 January 1941
General characteristics
Class and type: Town-class light cruiser
Displacement:
  • 9,100 tons standard
  • 11,350 tons full load
Length: 558 ft (170 m)
Beam: 61 ft 8 in (18.80 m)
Draught: 21 ft 6 in (6.55 m)
Propulsion:
  • Four-shaft Parsons geared turbines
  • Four Admiralty 3-drum boilers
  • 75,000 shp
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h)
Complement: 748
Armament:
Name Pennant Builder Laid down Launched Commissioned Fate
Southampton class
Newcastle
(ex-Minotaur)
C76 Vickers-Armstrongs, Newcastle 4 October 1934 23 January 1936 5 March 1937 Broken up at Faslane, 1959
Southampton
(ex-Polyphemus)
C83 John Brown, Clydebank 21 November 1934 10 March 1936 6 March 1937 Scuttled following air attack off Malta, 11 January 1941
Sheffield C24 Vickers-Armstrongs, Newcastle 31 January 1935 23 July 1936 25 August 1937 Broken up at Faslane, 1967
Glasgow C21 Scotts, Greenock 16 April 1935 20 June 1936 9 September 1937 Broken up at Blyth, 1958
Birmingham C19 HM Dockyard, Devonport 18 July 1935 1 September 1936 18 November 1937 Broken up at Inverkeithing, 1960
Gloucester class
Liverpool C11 Fairfields, Govan 17 February 1936 24 March 1937 2 November 1938 Broken up at Bo'Ness, 1958
Manchester C15 Hawthorn Leslie, Hebburn 28 March 1936 12 April 1937 4 August 1938 Scuttled following torpedo attack off Cap Bon, 13 August 1942
Gloucester C62 HM Dockyard, Devonport 22 September 1936 19 October 1937 31 January 1939 Sunk following air attack off Crete, 22 May 1941
Edinburgh class
Belfast C35 Harland and Wolff, Belfast 10 December 1936 17 March 1938 5 August 1939 Preserved as museum ship in London
Edinburgh C16 Swan Hunter, Newcastle 30 December 1936 31 March 1938 6 July 1939 Scuttled following torpedo attack, 2 May 1942
HMS Edinburgh.jpg
Edinburgh at Scapa Flow in October 1941
History
56px-Naval_Ensign_of_the_United_Kingdom.United Kingdom
Name: HMS Edinburgh
Builder: Swan Hunter, Tyne and Wear, United Kingdom
Laid down: 30 December 1936
Launched: 31 March 1938
Commissioned: 6 July 1939
Identification: Pennant number: 16
Fate: Scuttled in the Arctic Ocean 2 May 1942
General characteristics
Class and type: Town-class light cruiser
Displacement: 13,175 tons
Length: 613.6 ft (187.0 m)
Beam: 64.9 ft (19.8 m)
Draught: 22.6 ft (6.9 m)
Propulsion:
  • Four-shaft Parsons geared turbines
  • Four Admiralty 3-drum boilers
  • 82,500 shp (62 MW)
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h)
Complement: 750
Armament:
Aircraft carried: Two Walrus aircraft (Removed in the latter part of World War II)
HMS Sheffield.jpg
Sheffield underway in 1944
History
56px-Naval_Ensign_of_the_United_Kingdom.United Kingdom
Name: HMS Sheffield
Builder: Vickers Armstrong
Laid down: 31 January 1935
Launched: 23 July 1936
Commissioned: 25 August 1937
Identification: Pennant number: C24
Nickname(s): Shiny Sheff
Fate: Scrapped at Faslane, 1967
General characteristics
Class and type: Town-class light cruiser
Displacement:
  • 9,100 tons standard
  • 11,350 tons full load
Length: 558 ft (170 m)
Beam: 61 ft 8 in (18.80 m)
Draught: 21 ft 6 in (6.55 m)
Propulsion:
  • Four-shaft Parsons geared turbines
  • Four Admiralty 3-drum boilers
  • 75,000 shp
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h)
Complement: 748
Sensors and 
processing systems:
Type 79Y radar from August 1938[1]
Armament:
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^ Exactly, Edinburgh Class is even more different to a Southampton class than Crown Colony. They much larger beasts, look at the funnel positions compared to Southampton. Maybe WG should do the a version with the planned quad turrets??

 

Sheffield would essentially be a Leander/Fiji type hybrid in game and would need a very different model, prob why WG haven't got them in game.

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17 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

Not at all. I just wish that WG would stop releasing high concept British cruisers which only function in a certain way. If they do British Heavy Cruisers I would like them to be like Pensacola, Yorck and Algerie... Uncomplicated. You sail them about, shoot things with the right ammo, dodge, and sometimes explode if you show too much broadside. Is fun. 

 

They could get a lot of mileage of the RN cruisers if they got around to them... RN, Aussie and Spanish ones based on the Counties, RN and Canadian Crown Colony and Swiftsure cruisers, RN and NZ Dido class... 

Sounds good... it will be nice if they put such (T8?) premium along with a new class(sub-class) RN line, like the USN split.

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HMS Edinburgh and HMS Belfast were the largest CLs ever built for the RN. Even tho they were part of Town Class, they looked different enough from other sisters and adding another Town class would require a new model for it.

 

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On ‎12‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 6:32 PM, creamgravy said:

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Sheffield!

The Sheffield has great history.

Took Part in the sinking of Bismark , Scharnhorst and damaging The Hipper amongst others.....

Would love to see her in the game...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sheffield_(C24

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13 hours ago, SeaWolf7 said:

The Sheffield has great history.

Took Part in the sinking of Bismark , Scharnhorst and damaging The Hipper amongst others.....

Would love to see her in the game...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sheffield_(C24

 

She was one of the most decorated cruisers of WW2 with 12 Battle Honours. Only four ships of the RN get more. "Shiny Sheff" would definitely be a great addition to the game.

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