Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #76 Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Verblonde said: So, win-win? Too confusing for WG. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,259 battles Report post #77 Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Capra76 said: Too confusing for WG. St.Louis Saint-Louis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,926 battles Report post #78 Posted December 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Capra76 said: Too confusing for WG. Well considering WG solution for West Virginia they could simply call them American/United States Enterprise British Enterprise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #79 Posted December 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, fumtu said: Well considering WG solution for West Virginia they could simply call them American/United States Enterprise British Enterprise I think my point was that the idea of win-win was too confusing for WG, I think they've only got as far as "we win, you lose". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,926 battles Report post #80 Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Capra76 said: I think my point was that the idea of win-win was too confusing for WG, I think they've only got as far as "we win, you lose". Oh. sorry, my mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #81 Posted December 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, fumtu said: Oh. sorry, my mistake. To be fair I'm not being completely serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUP2D] SirDixie WoWs Wiki Team 105 posts 9,338 battles Report post #82 Posted December 3, 2018 In no particular order. Except the first one.... HMS Sheffield HMS Dido HMS Royalist HMS Ulysses (fictional but it's a good book) HMS Exeter HMS Carlisle HMS London (post rebuild) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #83 Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, pzkpfwv1d said: Sheffield is already in the game as a Silver ship at T7 No it isn't. Southampton/Gloucester class are quite a bit different, they have the same citadel as Leander for starters. Prob the best RN CL design for WOWS, a bit like Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #84 Posted December 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, SirDixie said: HMS Royalist HMS Ulysses (fictional but it's a good book) Aren't they both in essence the same ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,337 battles Report post #85 Posted December 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, creamgravy said: No it isn't. Southampton/Gloucester class are quite a bit different, they have the same citadel as Leander for starters. Prob the best RN CL design for WOWS, a bit like Cleveland. I beg to differ but HMS Sheffield is already in game in the guise of her sister ship HMS Edinburgh 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #86 Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, pzkpfwv1d said: I beg to differ but HMS Sheffield is already in game in the guise of her sister ship HMS Edinburgh Edinburgh is the T8. Also, the Southampton and Edinburgh sub-groups would be considered different classes in most other navies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUP2D] SirDixie WoWs Wiki Team 105 posts 9,338 battles Report post #87 Posted December 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Capra76 said: Aren't they both in essence the same ship. Pretty much. But we all know how WG loves paper projects Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,337 battles Report post #88 Posted December 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, Capra76 said: Edinburgh is the T8. Also, the Southampton and Edinburgh sub-groups would be considered different classes in most other navies. HMS Southampton in 1937 History United Kingdom Name: HMS Southampton Builder: John Brown & Company, Clydebank, Scotland Laid down: 21 November 1934 Launched: 10 March 1936 Commissioned: 6 March 1937 Identification: Pennant number: C83 Fate: Sunk off Malta, 11 January 1941 General characteristics Class and type: Town-class light cruiser Displacement: 9,100 tons standard 11,350 tons full load Length: 558 ft (170 m) Beam: 61 ft 8 in (18.80 m) Draught: 21 ft 6 in (6.55 m) Propulsion: Four-shaft Parsons geared turbines Four Admiralty 3-drum boilers 75,000 shp Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h) Complement: 748 Armament: 12 × BL 6-inch (152 mm) guns [triple mounts] 8 × QF 4-inch (102 mm) guns [double mounts] 4 × 3-pounder 8 x QF 2-pounder (40 mm) AA guns[quadruple mounts] 6 × 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes Name Pennant Builder Laid down Launched Commissioned Fate Southampton class Newcastle (ex-Minotaur) C76 Vickers-Armstrongs, Newcastle 4 October 1934 23 January 1936 5 March 1937 Broken up at Faslane, 1959 Southampton (ex-Polyphemus) C83 John Brown, Clydebank 21 November 1934 10 March 1936 6 March 1937 Scuttled following air attack off Malta, 11 January 1941 Sheffield C24 Vickers-Armstrongs, Newcastle 31 January 1935 23 July 1936 25 August 1937 Broken up at Faslane, 1967 Glasgow C21 Scotts, Greenock 16 April 1935 20 June 1936 9 September 1937 Broken up at Blyth, 1958 Birmingham C19 HM Dockyard, Devonport 18 July 1935 1 September 1936 18 November 1937 Broken up at Inverkeithing, 1960 Gloucester class Liverpool C11 Fairfields, Govan 17 February 1936 24 March 1937 2 November 1938 Broken up at Bo'Ness, 1958 Manchester C15 Hawthorn Leslie, Hebburn 28 March 1936 12 April 1937 4 August 1938 Scuttled following torpedo attack off Cap Bon, 13 August 1942 Gloucester C62 HM Dockyard, Devonport 22 September 1936 19 October 1937 31 January 1939 Sunk following air attack off Crete, 22 May 1941 Edinburgh class Belfast C35 Harland and Wolff, Belfast 10 December 1936 17 March 1938 5 August 1939 Preserved as museum ship in London Edinburgh C16 Swan Hunter, Newcastle 30 December 1936 31 March 1938 6 July 1939 Scuttled following torpedo attack, 2 May 1942 Edinburgh at Scapa Flow in October 1941 History United Kingdom Name: HMS Edinburgh Builder: Swan Hunter, Tyne and Wear, United Kingdom Laid down: 30 December 1936 Launched: 31 March 1938 Commissioned: 6 July 1939 Identification: Pennant number: 16 Fate: Scuttled in the Arctic Ocean 2 May 1942 General characteristics Class and type: Town-class light cruiser Displacement: 13,175 tons Length: 613.6 ft (187.0 m) Beam: 64.9 ft (19.8 m) Draught: 22.6 ft (6.9 m) Propulsion: Four-shaft Parsons geared turbines Four Admiralty 3-drum boilers 82,500 shp (62 MW) Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h) Complement: 750 Armament: 12 × BL 6 inch Mk XXIII naval guns(152 mm) in triple turrets 12 × QF 4-inch (101.6 mm) Mk XVI guns Two octuple mount QF 2 pounder (40 mm) AA guns 8 × 0.5-inch (12.7 mm) Vickers machine guns 6 × 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes Aircraft carried: Two Walrus aircraft (Removed in the latter part of World War II) Sheffield underway in 1944 History United Kingdom Name: HMS Sheffield Builder: Vickers Armstrong Laid down: 31 January 1935 Launched: 23 July 1936 Commissioned: 25 August 1937 Identification: Pennant number: C24 Nickname(s): Shiny Sheff Fate: Scrapped at Faslane, 1967 General characteristics Class and type: Town-class light cruiser Displacement: 9,100 tons standard 11,350 tons full load Length: 558 ft (170 m) Beam: 61 ft 8 in (18.80 m) Draught: 21 ft 6 in (6.55 m) Propulsion: Four-shaft Parsons geared turbines Four Admiralty 3-drum boilers 75,000 shp Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h) Complement: 748 Sensors and processing systems: Type 79Y radar from August 1938[1] Armament: 12 × 6-inch (152 mm) Mk XXIII guns[triple mounts] 8 × QF 4-inch (102 mm) guns [double mounts] 4 × 3-pounder 8 x QF 2-pounder (40 mm) guns[quadruple mounts] Torpedo tubes: 6 × 21-inch (533 mm) 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #89 Posted December 3, 2018 ^ Exactly, Edinburgh Class is even more different to a Southampton class than Crown Colony. They much larger beasts, look at the funnel positions compared to Southampton. Maybe WG should do the a version with the planned quad turrets?? Sheffield would essentially be a Leander/Fiji type hybrid in game and would need a very different model, prob why WG haven't got them in game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTECa1 Players 322 posts 9,766 battles Report post #90 Posted December 4, 2018 17 hours ago, invicta2012 said: Not at all. I just wish that WG would stop releasing high concept British cruisers which only function in a certain way. If they do British Heavy Cruisers I would like them to be like Pensacola, Yorck and Algerie... Uncomplicated. You sail them about, shoot things with the right ammo, dodge, and sometimes explode if you show too much broadside. Is fun. They could get a lot of mileage of the RN cruisers if they got around to them... RN, Aussie and Spanish ones based on the Counties, RN and Canadian Crown Colony and Swiftsure cruisers, RN and NZ Dido class... Sounds good... it will be nice if they put such (T8?) premium along with a new class(sub-class) RN line, like the USN split. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,926 battles Report post #91 Posted December 4, 2018 HMS Edinburgh and HMS Belfast were the largest CLs ever built for the RN. Even tho they were part of Town Class, they looked different enough from other sisters and adding another Town class would require a new model for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #92 Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 6:32 PM, creamgravy said: Sheffield! The Sheffield has great history. Took Part in the sinking of Bismark , Scharnhorst and damaging The Hipper amongst others..... Would love to see her in the game... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sheffield_(C24 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKAS] stinkmorchel Beta Tester 2,646 posts 6,966 battles Report post #93 Posted December 4, 2018 BFT & AFT would improve the guns of a Dido , 133mm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LO1] Tugnut Alpha Tester 1,552 posts 8,125 battles Report post #94 Posted December 5, 2018 psst WGing add HMS Ajax as a prem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,926 battles Report post #95 Posted December 5, 2018 13 hours ago, SeaWolf7 said: The Sheffield has great history. Took Part in the sinking of Bismark , Scharnhorst and damaging The Hipper amongst others..... Would love to see her in the game... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sheffield_(C24 She was one of the most decorated cruisers of WW2 with 12 Battle Honours. Only four ships of the RN get more. "Shiny Sheff" would definitely be a great addition to the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
