Haida, eh?

[invicta2012]

I bought this ship a while ago, and sold it. Didn't get on with it. WG's new premium policy and the fact that it gives bonuses to the RN campaign meant I got it back again. And I still don't like it. Six guns with super-floaty arcs, four torpedoes. Concealment is nice, smoke is useful, hydro too, but to be honest I'm having trouble damaging anything other than BBs which aren't paying attention. Any tips?  Is there any reason to play it when there's Jervis and Gadjah Mada? 

[22cm]

31 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

 the fact that it gives bonuses to the RN campaign meant I got it back again

 

31 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Is there any reason to play it when there's Jervis and Gadjah Mada? 

 

Answer. 

 

Question. 

[Wobly_1]

2 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

  Is there any reason to play it when there's Jervis and Gadjah Mada? 

No,better play Jervis

[Miessa3]

2 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

 Is there any reason to play it when there's Jervis and Gadjah Mada? 

crawling smoke for Jervis or singlelauch nondeepwater torps for gadjah.

It's like the perth an oddball, but if you can make use of that crawling smoke and the not bad but rather decent guns it's not that bad actually.

I have fun with it laughing my as* off while outspotting other DDs before i farm the bigger ships from smoke.

[VeteranGamer84]

For me Leningrad is the King of T7 DDs.

[Gnirf]

3 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

I bought this ship a while ago, and sold it. Didn't get on with it. WG's new premium policy and the fact that it gives bonuses to the RN campaign meant I got it back again. And I still don't like it. Six guns with super-floaty arcs, four torpedoes. Concealment is nice, smoke is useful, hydro too, but to be honest I'm having trouble damaging anything other than BBs which aren't paying attention. Any tips?  Is there any reason to play it when there's Jervis and Gadjah Mada? 

Ofc, every ship must be kept.

 

No to be serious as we do not know about the usefulness in the future of Haida in a special coomonwealth tree , she might turn out to be very useful in the future. WG seems sometimes to place the odd ship as an requirement so why not?

I think you could use Haida in Dunkirk scenario? If you have Jervis on cooldown, then take Haida? 

You may have better credit income in Haida,

 

On principle I think it is bad to sell premiums.

[invicta2012]

14 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

On principle I think it is bad to sell premiums.

There are a fair few I don't really care for, or where I'd rather play a Silver Ship. Why do I want Graf Spee when I have Normandie, for example? My port has expanded (I have far too many DDs at the moment) and there's always a cull...

[Max_Kammerer]

7 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

I bought this ship a while ago, and sold it. Didn't get on with it. WG's new premium policy and the fact that it gives bonuses to the RN campaign meant I got it back again. And I still don't like it. Six guns with super-floaty arcs, four torpedoes. Concealment is nice, smoke is useful, hydro too, but to be honest I'm having trouble damaging anything other than BBs which aren't paying attention. Any tips?  Is there any reason to play it when there's Jervis and Gadjah Mada? 

With 19p captain she is very good ship...

[invicta2012]

That's about 1,000,000 rubbish games away, though. 

[Chaos_Umbra]

I seem to get on well with it averaging over 50k, it is meant to bully DDs in caps and putting the smoke screen upgrade improves it a lot, you have excellent stealth and the torps are handy for forcing damage con and stopping BBs pushing your smoke and having a very good health pool and Hydro makes it one of the best cap contesters of tier 7, sure the Jervis has stolen some of it's advantage with the 360deg guns and having a lot more torps, but the extra HP and stealth do swing most engagements in your favor.

[Bear__Necessities]

Haida is a solid ship. Great in brawls against other DD’s and great cap contester/defender. Up there with Gadjah, Mass, Jervis and Leningrad in the best T7 DD space.

[Pte_Maylam]

I couldn't stand the smoke, I tend to use smoke to break contact, but as it goes on for so long, it would obscure my subsequent targeting and as the ship farts it out for around 2 minutes, it telegraphed where I was, which was deeply annoying.

 

The other issue I found was that I very rarely had some obliging other dd to assist with spotting, so when I tried to shoot from the smoke I couldn't see anything!

 

It has potential, but I couldn't make it work for me and I do regret buying it.

[Yedwy]

It has great concealment for a t7 dd and thats the main reason I use it, its a hunter killer dd, and its best used like that it can lay fires on bbs and such in a pinch but there are far better choices for a dedicated bb hunter

[Procrastes]

The Haida - also known as "the fightingest ship in the Royal Canadian Navy" - is easily my favourite ship.

 

Her moving smoke in conjunction with hydro offers unrivalled flexibility, especially if you install both of those special upgrades that extend active duration. Used together, that smoke and hydro makes her almost impervious to counter-smoke torpedoes, and if push comes to shove she can motor out of there and then slow down and smoke up again.

 

Her 3x2 gun turret layout, with two turrets in front, lets her bring two thirds of her main armament to bear on an opponent without exposing her broadside. Her high HE alpha damage and excellent health pool means that she can out-trade or at least match just about any destroyer she might face in a close quarters brawl, and her outstanding concealment lets her dictate engagement ranges. Her long-lasting, albeit short-ranged hydro gives her an edge when dodging torpedoes in an on-going knife fight. The high fire arcs at maximum range is not much of a problem, since you wouldn't expect to fire at much else than a battleship at those ranges anyway.

 

She has the speed to get into a brawl, and the speed to get out if she needs to.

 

The fact that she only has the one quad torpedo-launcher is a well merited balancing factor (meaning that she isn't overpowered, which is also a good thing). Still, she has enough torpedo power to deter capital ships from pushing their luck, and the single-shot launcher gives added flexibility here as well.

 

Last but not least, she's a gorgeous ship. What a looker! It's really a bit of  a shame that I find myself compelled to use bonus camos on her to get extra xp, or I'd use that wizard red-and-white maple camouflage all the time!

 

In my book, the Haida is a superlative cap contender and first among equals when it comes to fighting other destroyers. The fact that she doesn't fit everybody's playstyle is yet another confirmation of how much variety Wargaming has managed to build into this game. So, yay to that!

[Shaka_D]

20 hours ago, ABED1984 said:

For me Leningrad is the King of T7 DDs.

No ways man, this honour belongs to the Blyska for a gunboat and the shiraihatsu thingy (sp sucks) for a torp fest

[Max_Kammerer]

13 minutes ago, Shaka_D said:

No ways man, this honour belongs to the Blyska for a gunboat and the shiraihatsu thingy (sp sucks) for a torp fest

its a history :), now we have much better DDs here  - Haida and Gadjah Mada

[invicta2012]

5 hours ago, Yedwy said:

It has great concealment for a t7 dd

It had great concealment and better weapons when it was launched, but now the IJN DDs have buffed guns and fancy their chances in a dogfight, the RN ones have x2.5 as many torps and the same concealment, and her big sister Cossack out spots her everyday of the week. When that happens you're banjaxed. So really you're OK against the American and German ones. Sometimes. 

[Procrastes]

1 minute ago, invicta2012 said:

It had great concealment and better weapons when it was launched, but now the IJN DDs have buffed guns and fancy their chances in a dogfight, the RN ones have x2.5 as many torps and the same concealment, and her big sister Cossack out spots her everyday of the week. When that happens you're banjaxed. So really you're OK against the American and German ones. Sometimes. 

The Haida will take on any and all comers. Any Japanese destroyers out there wanna fight? Bring them on; the more the merrier! A Cossack? Two hundred meters of spotting advantage doesn't make all that much of a difference when you are on an 80-knots collision course, and once in range, that extra gun turret is just an encouragement to turn broadside on. Say hello to your little sister! 

 

Seriously, though, I have fought off Cossacks in my Haida, and that is one of few ships with comparable fighting capabilities. I'd be careful around one of those new-fangled IJN gunboats, but I wouldn't shirk from a scrap with any of them, either.

[Verblonde]

On 12/2/2018 at 8:20 AM, invicta2012 said:

Is there any reason to play it when there's Jervis and Gadjah

Besides the fact she's Haida:

 

You're very versatile - you can do the spotting/capping thing by dint of her excellent concealment; if someone else has eyes on the enemy, you can do the Perth 'creeping smoke' thing and pummel them with HE (as well as the hilarity of the occasional secondary hit!); you can hold your own in a gun duel; you're functionally immune to torps, especially if you're running the hydro upgrade module (BTW the smoke module is worth taking as well). If you have the knack of single-fire torps (which aren't DWT), you can also make people regret their life decisions too...

 

She makes lots of silver, which is nice.

 

I personally found that she improved noticeably when I got a 13 point captain on her.

 

BTW she's Haida!

[VeteranGamer84]

7 hours ago, Shaka_D said:

No ways man, this honour belongs to the Blyska for a gunboat and the shiraihatsu thingy (sp sucks) for a torp fest

Compared to Blyksawica, Leningrad is faster, harder to hit, better guns & better torps. On the other hand Shiratsuyu depends  mostly on the team mates for fire support.

[triumphgt6]

Haida is great but Cossack is fantastic! Rapidly becoming my favourite ship - really stealthy, stupendous guns, long range torps and speed boost and hydro - the Belfast of destroyers!!