mrandrewclark85 Players 35 posts 5,902 battles Report post #1 Posted December 2, 2018 I was wondering if the camo and signals affected what happens with MM? So i spent some money on some camo to improve my XP gains, and have entered a massive losing streak, since the first game that i Installed my camo. I used to have a 76% winrate. Camo changed that completely, since i bought and installed good camo, i have lost 95% of my games over the last 3 weeks. Is this something MM takes into account? Note to self, NEVER and i mean NEVER EVER spend a penny on camo again. I used to at least get 1000Xp per game, Now it is around 500xp and i have camo to increase XP gains by about 500%. Burke tier this is. Seems like i can play the game for free, and enjoy a decent win rate, or pay some pennies and lose everything. and i don't really want to lose everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #2 Posted December 2, 2018 No. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,086 posts 15,123 battles Report post #3 Posted December 2, 2018 No. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,265 posts 35,928 battles Report post #4 Posted December 2, 2018 You probably played a small number of games and got luck with good teams. You dont get 76% even if you re a genius. Maybe only full AA CV division can get something like 70%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] Igarigen Beta Tester 7,980 posts 12,672 battles Report post #5 Posted December 2, 2018 No it does not affect MM. I guess you played a higher Tier, where the matches get harder, because you meet two tier higher ships there and sometimes better players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,647 posts 7,856 battles Report post #6 Posted December 2, 2018 No, but I will give you credit for a thought I can't recall seeing before at least.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #7 Posted December 2, 2018 4 hours ago, mrandrewclark85 said: Camo changed that completely, since i bought and installed good camo, i have lost 95% of my games over the last 3 weeks. Is this something MM takes into account? No you haven't, you have lost 58% in the last 3 weeks. Nothing to do with camo, and tbh camo should improve your battle performance slightly over a longer period, especially in DD's. 76% is either beginners luck or normal for very low tiers as a bad reroll. Take your pick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,815 posts 10,010 battles Report post #8 Posted December 2, 2018 6 hours ago, mrandrewclark85 said: I used to have a 76% winrate. Camo changed that completely, since i bought and installed good camo, i have lost 95% of my games over the last 3 weeks. ok...that's a new one on me..... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,272 posts 18,820 battles Report post #9 Posted December 2, 2018 7 hours ago, mrandrewclark85 said: I Seems like i can play the game for free, and enjoy a decent win rate, or pay some pennies and lose everything. and i don't really want to lose everything. Your problem is that you FEEL™ stuff that did not happen and that you did NOT think about your theories and their implications.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeaAndTorps Players 806 posts 2,665 battles Report post #10 Posted December 2, 2018 Hi OP. No, your camo/signals/consumables loadout does not affect MM. As others here have said – and without looking further into your stats than your number of battleships – I would guess you've hit higher tiers recently and have been struggling a bit, which happens to almost all new players. T5 suddenly loses the protected MM that you've had at T4, which means you can now see ships 2 tiers higher – and you'll start seeing lots of more experienced and therefore more skilled players. That's why it can often be best to play at a given tier for longer than you actually need to unlock the next ship. I'm definitely finding that it helps to take it more slowly! It allows you to learn more about how the mechanics work in practice, to gain more free xp and credits for unlocking modules on new ships (never use fxp to skip a ship!) and to train your captain up. It's also worth checking out the wiki and some Twitch streamers/YouTubers: Flambass, Flamu, ClydeThaMonkey and Notser are all worthwhile, and MrMacavity is also a very good player and specifically aims to answer newbies' questions on his Twitch stream. The World of Warships official stream is good too, and Crysantos sometimes runs his own streams in the weekends, which I enjoy and learn a lot from. Finally, I'm not sure I'd recommend using real money on camos. You can buy standard ones without XP gains for credits, and can save coal for others with xp bonuses from the Arsenal if you so desire. Once you feel comfortable at T5+, you'll also find a lot rolling in from normal play. If you want to pay real money for xp gains, you'll get the best bang for your buck by buying premium time. I think that buying doubloons and spending them on economic signals is also likely to work out more efficient than spending real money on camos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #11 Posted December 2, 2018 7 hours ago, mrandrewclark85 said: I was wondering if the camo and signals affected what happens with MM? So i spent some money on some camo to improve my XP gains, and have entered a massive losing streak, since the first game that i Installed my camo. I used to have a 76% winrate. Camo changed that completely, since i bought and installed good camo, i have lost 95% of my games over the last 3 weeks. Is this something MM takes into account? Note to self, NEVER and i mean NEVER EVER spend a penny on camo again. I used to at least get 1000Xp per game, Now it is around 500xp and i have camo to increase XP gains by about 500%. Burke tier this is. Seems like i can play the game for free, and enjoy a decent win rate, or pay some pennies and lose everything. and i don't really want to lose everything. IQ- the clan of intelligence 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEA] Robber_Baron Players 1,322 posts 7,976 battles Report post #12 Posted December 2, 2018 Yes, it does. With the Alabama ST camo and the Mogami octopus camo you have an increased chance to find DDs/loliboats to lewd. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrandrewclark85 Players 35 posts 5,902 battles Report post #13 Posted December 2, 2018 6 hours ago, bushwacker001 said: No you haven't, you have lost 58% in the last 3 weeks. I am also counting the special missions in my tally. I play more of them than random at the moment, and both have been as bad as each other. can't even get a single star on the new Hermes mission, and i have got 5 stars on every other operation i have tried. i guess i have just hit the MM wall or something. Bugger it, ill just have more time off and play some Rome total war or something for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,895 battles Report post #14 Posted December 2, 2018 12 hours ago, mrandrewclark85 said: I was wondering if the camo and signals affected what happens with MM? So i spent some money on some camo to improve my XP gains, and have entered a massive losing streak, since the first game that i Installed my camo. I used to have a 76% winrate. Camo changed that completely, since i bought and installed good camo, i have lost 95% of my games over the last 3 weeks. Is this something MM takes into account? Note to self, NEVER and i mean NEVER EVER spend a penny on camo again. I used to at least get 1000Xp per game, Now it is around 500xp and i have camo to increase XP gains by about 500%. Burke tier this is. Seems like i can play the game for free, and enjoy a decent win rate, or pay some pennies and lose everything. and i don't really want to lose everything. Other than a run of bad luck, your issue is: You buy a load of camo and signals -> you use said limited amount of camo and signals -> You feel more pressured and stressed while playing -> you play worse -> you win less. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,272 posts 18,820 battles Report post #15 Posted December 2, 2018 5 hours ago, mrandrewclark85 said: I am also counting the special missions in my tally. I play more of them than random at the moment, and both have been as bad as each other. can't even get a single star on the new Hermes mission, and i have got 5 stars on every other operation i have tried. i guess i have just hit the MM wall or something. Bugger it, ill just have more time off and play some Rome total war or something for now. Learn about operations. Operations do not have all the same difficulty. You cannot compare them with each other. A common factor is, when the team does not know what to do, you lose. There are pretty binary that way. You cannot compare that to random battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,825 battles Report post #16 Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 3:22 AM, mrandrewclark85 said: I was wondering if the camo and signals affected what happens with MM? It's supposed to be a secret but it has been proven long ago that only when owning every permanent camo available - that means for each ship that can be bought, not only the ones you have in harbour - you get a favourite MM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,123 posts 14,001 battles Report post #17 Posted December 3, 2018 yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antean Players 853 posts 907 battles Report post #18 Posted December 3, 2018 I do not think using camo affects the MM at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,806 posts Report post #19 Posted December 3, 2018 If you were in this game, than anything is possible. I thought "MIRRORED" MM was a thing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeaAndTorps Players 806 posts 2,665 battles Report post #20 Posted December 3, 2018 4 hours ago, nambr9 said: If you were in this game, than anything is possible. I thought "MIRRORED" MM was a thing now. I believe the mirroring is a 'soft' rule that the matchmaker ditches if someone's been in the queue for too long (probably one of the CVs). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,806 posts Report post #21 Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, 10ThousandThings said: I believe the mirroring is a 'soft' rule that the matchmaker ditches if someone's been in the queue for too long (probably one of the CVs). I always forget about CV waiting queues... thanx for the heads up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veso_vn Weekend Tester 29 posts 4,720 battles Report post #22 Posted December 3, 2018 Saturday and Sunday affect the MM :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,448 posts 32,288 battles Report post #23 Posted December 3, 2018 7 hours ago, nambr9 said: If you were in this game, than anything is possible. I thought "MIRRORED" MM was a thing now. I don't see the issue ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,806 posts Report post #24 Posted December 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, lup3s said: I don't see the issue ? Unequal number of DDs in domination mode is always an issue imo.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,272 posts 18,820 battles Report post #25 Posted December 3, 2018 Not really... WG found no statistical evidence that the difference of one DD changes chance of winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
