[PANEU] kfa Beta Tester 1,975 posts 13,875 battles Report post #26 Posted December 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Yes you do not speak Americano indeed, you talks Jibberish me thinks. You proved HIM right, by stating the HE is veryveryvery good and nobody changes to AP anyway. How does that prove your point? Omg. Where? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,247 battles Report post #27 Posted December 1, 2018 I took Expert Loader as my last 1 point and god damn is it useful on the Vanguard, I'm always switching ammo from HE to AP and back, especially with the DD AP interaction change it is an even more useful skill on BBs. For the RN BBs it is useful for those situations where a cruiser or BB comes out broadside from behind an island at close range, my Lion wrecked a Yamato that did that... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,213 battles Report post #28 Posted December 1, 2018 6 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said: How about you give me some arguments why it's actually "useful"? It's useful, because it allows me to quickly switch between ammunition types and exploit opportunities which would not be possible if I had to wait the full reload on my high tier RN BBs. Contrary to other BB lines RN battleships benefit from ammunition switching and not investing in the ability to make quick adjustments hobbles the ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #29 Posted December 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Aragathor said: it allows me to quickly switch between ammunition No it doesn't, that's the whole point. There are 5 cases (stated somewhere above) where it lets you do it quickly, and none of those are RN BBs. Waiting for 50% of your reload - 15-ish sec - is not quick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,213 battles Report post #30 Posted December 1, 2018 That's your subjective opinion and not an ex cathedra truth given from above. To you a 13s difference between a normal reload and a EL ammo switch might not mean much, but to me it's that little bit of edge I need to seize an opportunity. And to me, 13s is plenty quick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] Ze_Reckless [ENUF] Players 2,532 posts 23,393 battles Report post #31 Posted December 2, 2018 Yep, sometimes you see a cruiser or BB about to make a turn, 13 seconds is more than enough while 26 seconds or HE wouldn't allow you to devstrike him. Plus, the skill costs only 1 point. It's pretty damn cheap for what it does. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #32 Posted December 2, 2018 19 hours ago, Sukasaa said: I see, thanks guys should I use "Jack Dunkirk" for BB line? He has bonus something for Expert Marksman. ^^ Using mine on Conqueror. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,484 battles Report post #33 Posted December 2, 2018 I dont use EL unless irs improved version, for me its just not worth it next to more usefoul PT or PM since most bb captains i use have 1-2-2-2 skill spread unless they are sec spec when its 2-1-1-3 spread, acctually there I could maybee even have points to take EL but situatios in whitch I find myself wanting it are so rare that I just dont think its worth it, however that depends on playstyle and is entirely personal preference based... Chill people, its good to have options, you can never have too many options 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,446 battles Report post #34 Posted December 2, 2018 Hi al, 20 hours ago, nambr9 said: Tank build all the way. http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/1000000000100010100001000100000119 PT, EM, SI and CE as base. After that id go for: AR, FP and BOS. Works on most BBs. Unsure about dropping BOS in favor of EL and some 2pt skill. Even with BB AP change, it seems more useful on cruisers to me. Yep - this is sound and best advice possible! https://wowsft.com/WarshipStats?nation=uk&shipType=Battleship&ship=Conqueror&moduleN=1111&upgradeN=114121&skillN=01000000001000101000010001000001&commander=Bert Dunkirk&flagN=01000010001000001&camo=true&s0=PCY009_CrashCrewPremium_B_UK_Germany_Gold&s1=PCY010_RegenCrewPremium_UK_HT_BB_PREM But, if you have "special" UK commander at hand (i.e. one of the "Dunkirk brothers") you can also experiment with: https://wowsft.com/WarshipStats?nation=uk&shipType=Battleship&ship=Conqueror&moduleN=1111&upgradeN=114121&skillN=01000000111000101000010000000001&commander=Bert Dunkirk&flagN=01000010001000001&camo=true&s0=PCY009_CrashCrewPremium_B_UK_Germany_Gold&s1=PCY010_RegenCrewPremium_UK_HT_BB_PREM Leo "Apollo11" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,184 battles Report post #35 Posted December 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Ze_Reckless said: Yep, sometimes you see a cruiser or BB about to make a turn, 13 seconds is more than enough while 26 seconds or HE wouldn't allow you to devstrike him. Plus, the skill costs only 1 point. It's pretty damn cheap for what it does. Indeed it is pretty cheap for what it does. But if that cruiser makes a turn, well, I'll get him after the turn... Also, cruisers CAN BE devstriked with BB HE. Even when slightly angled and AP wouldn;t cut it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] Sukasaa Players 126 posts 8,362 battles Report post #36 Posted December 2, 2018 Again Thank you everyone for the kind Advice I appreciate it a lot!. ^-^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites