West Virginia needs some love.. this ship isnt good!

[PhantomSailor]

This ship is only decent at close range at same tier.. but meeting tier 8 ships just stay further back when not equal tiered..
ALSO with the BB AP change.. there is A LOT of overpens... its insane!!!
This is just too painful..

Currently West Virginia has:

• Sigma   1.80σ
• Horizontal Dispersion   50m
• Vertical Spread   110m

• Reloading time    30 sec

 

Give West Virginia better sigma or 24 sec reload..

[ColonelPete]

It looks like she is more accurate than Colorado.

I suggest better target selection to reduce overpens.

[wilkatis_LV]

25 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

but meeting tier 8

Yeah, because tier 6 ships are supposed to be great vs ships 2 tiers above them

 

25 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

ALSO with the BB AP change.. there is A LOT of overpens... its insane!!!

How about you 1st learn WHAT WAS CHANGED instead of making an absolute fool out of yourself with statements like this?

 

25 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

Currently West Virginia has:

Amazing guns. T7 guns. At t6. With no penalty for it like Mutsus trash amo.

 

25 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

Sigma   1.80σ

1) More than enough

2) On its own means nothing

3) Highly overrated stat

4) You probably don't even know what it means, do you? For you it's "signma = accuracy", aye? Well, wrong.

 

25 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

• Horizontal Dispersion   50m
• Vertical Spread   110m

 

Imagine actually having that dispersion at 16km ahahahahaha. No amount of sigma could make that ship inaccurate, you could pinpoint which AA mount you want to hit on a moving DD lmao

 

She has exactly the same dispersion as Colorado at tier 7, and that's far from being bad.

 

50m H disp is at... never, bcuz even a point blank 0km shot starts at 60m

110m V disp also sounds far far too small. And it's irrelevant to you as it doesn't change in any linear fashion

 

25 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

Reloading time    30 sec

Which is too short seeing her gun caliber. Then again Mutsu too gets 30s. For some magical reason, I might add.

 

Arizona with 50mm smaller guns has 5s longer reload

NewMex with 50mm smaller guns has 4.2s longer reload

Normandie with 66mm smaller guns has identical reload

Bayern with 26mm smaller guns has identical reload

QE / Warspite with 25mm smaller guns have identical reload

 

18 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

It looks like she is more accurate than Colorado.

Naah, they're exactly identical apart from 0.1 less sigma on WV

[ColonelPete]

 

If these values are correct, she is much more precise.

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Vor 1 Stunde, wilkatis_LV sagte:

Mutsus trash amo.

Hasn't Mutsu been buffed?

I recently bought it and can't really complain about the shells... more about the squishy armor.

[PhantomSailor]

1 hour ago, wilkatis_LV said:

How about you 1st learn WHAT WAS CHANGED instead of making an absolute fool out of yourself with statements like this?

I know what has changed... and I overpen a lot in so many ships.. WG did screw it up with the change.. 0 pen damage.. too much confusion for everyone now at least.
I just want something better and different than a slightly buffed Arizona.......

[wilkatis_LV]

7 minutes ago, Nautical_Metaphor said:

Hasn't Mutsu been buffed?

I recently bought it and can't really complain about the shells... more about the squishy armor.

Ashitaka was buffed, Mutsu still has that old god awful amo.

 

Of course, it hardly matters when 410s overmatch everything they meet at their own tier even 1 tier above. in a t8 game tho (or even shooting t5 BBs main belt at anything but point blank distances)... good luck scoring anything other than a shatter

 

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

 

If these values are correct, she is much more precise.

Unless she has some magical extra accuracy which somehow failed to be stated absolutely anywhere - including stuff like LWMs reviews - US BBs H dispersion is calculated as R(km)*10+60 giving you 60m at 0km, 80m at 2km, 160m at 10km, 220m at 16km, 248m at 18,8km and so on.

 

So once again - not the first an clearly not last time wosft shows wrong info, give them a month or so to update it to actual values

[Zemeritt]

She is fine. Good guns on a rather fragile chassis.

I do quite like her.

[wilkatis_LV]

3 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

I know what has changed... and I overpen a lot in so many ships..

Except that those 2 are in no way connected = clearly you don't have the slightest clue what was changed.

 

3 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

0 pen damage..

...has existed for well over 2 years, most likely even longer - didn't pay attention to it before that. Those are module hits.

 

5 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

just want something better and different than a slightly buffed Arizona.......

Which is exactly what you get. More or less the same chassis with massively improved guns (those 356s vs these 406 aren't even a real competition in any way at all)

[ColonelPete]

16 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said:

Ashitaka was buffed, Mutsu still has that old god awful amo.

 

Of course, it hardly matters when 410s overmatch everything they meet at their own tier even 1 tier above. in a t8 game tho (or even shooting t5 BBs main belt at anything but point blank distances)... good luck scoring anything other than a shatter

 

Unless she has some magical extra accuracy which somehow failed to be stated absolutely anywhere - including stuff like LWMs reviews - US BBs H dispersion is calculated as R(km)*10+60 giving you 60m at 0km, 80m at 2km, 160m at 10km, 220m at 16km, 248m at 18,8km and so on.

 

So once again - not the first an clearly not last time wosft shows wrong info, give them a month or so to update it to actual values

The values are from the current patch.

Dispersion seems to be similar to Vanguard.

[wilkatis_LV]

20 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Dispersion seems to be similar to Vanguard.

Vanguard has R*10.3+51 = H disp.

That would mean that the max dispersion given - 220 (which fits with the US dispersion calculation) is incorrect as by Vanguards formula it would be 216m. And it has been stated that WV has identical dispersion to Colorado, which - rather obviously - has normal US dispersion.

 

I've said it before - wowsft is a really nice tool, but take everything they show with a pinch of salt as there seems to be incorrect info left right and center

 

 

[lmperial_Japanese_Navy]

On 11/30/2018 at 8:14 PM, PhantomSailor said:

Give West Virginia better sigma or 24 sec reload..

If Mutsu does 30 second reload why should WV being treated differently? Both ships have above 400+ mm caliber??

[Lexmechanic]

Yeah, the WV isn't great but I'd like them to revisit Le Terrible first. That shouldn't have been sold in the first place.

 

West Virginia's main issue is that the guns aren't good enough to justify the rest of the package IMO.

[ColonelPete]

WV is a godsend for skilled players. If you know how to aim, this ship is brutal.

If not, you are stuck with a bad package.

[Zemeritt]

12 hours ago, ScoutMkoll said:

West Virginia's main issue is that the guns aren't good enough to justify the rest of the package

 

You kidding, right? Her guns are brutal on T6. Compared to Mutsu's guns, these do actually perform really good.

[Lexmechanic]

Aaand I broke and bought her :) because Santa has been good to me this year and WV would be one of really few premiums missing in my collection. It's not horrible but I think Mutsu is more fun and I'm actually getting more good salvos in from Mutsu.

[HaachamaShipping]

On 12/9/2018 at 3:58 PM, ScoutMkoll said:

Aaand I broke and bought her :) because Santa has been good to me this year and WV would be one of really few premiums missing in my collection. It's not horrible but I think Mutsu is more fun and I'm actually getting more good salvos in from Mutsu.

Mutsu is more fun if top tier, because you are faster and got enough armour to get by. And the overmatch is enough to screw over enemies. But West Virginia is brutal for a T6 BB regardless of what MM it gets. Yes, they overpen more, but they aren't as bad as Dunkek, as the velocity is not as high and inbetween overpens you just rip apart ships with citadels. Against T8, the hull is is not good, but no T6 hull is really "good" in that situation. WV at least allows you to still dish out damage.