[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,291 battles Report post #151 Posted November 30, 2018 11 hours ago, K_NGP_N said: @Reaper_JackGBR look how OP this Stalingrad is. Its so OP they win 2 vs 5. Funny that both teams have them though.Lol Can believe this game has turned even Clans into P2W. Cant wait for the other 2 tier 10 Premium ships to come out. Anyway, good luck everyone in Clan battles (meant in a good way, not a sarcastic one) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,428 battles Report post #152 Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Redcap375 said: Can believe this game has turned even Clans into P2W. P2W? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soemba Players 96 posts 15,401 battles Report post #153 Posted November 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: P2W? Play 2 Win, as that is how you get the ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,846 battles Report post #154 Posted November 30, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 11:05 PM, MortenTardo said: Queue Stalingrad owners saying "its fine!" Not all of them. Many i know calls her balansgrad 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,291 battles Report post #155 Posted November 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: P2W? What i mean mate is that if you have the money you can buy yourself a better ship. Had a great reply from someone who owns one which summed it up nicely (will post it later). Ships Like the Kaga, Saipan, Belfast ect.... Everyone, including those that own both,agree it's a better Moskva, which it is and the stats completely prove this. And the Moskva is a STRONG ship in the first place. Soon we will have 3 tier 10 premium ships that can be played in Clans. How can anyone say that Clan Battles is on a even footing (captain skill aside) when people can buy other ships?? Take a look at WOT and/or WT. Premium tanks destroyed WOT and Russian Bios (which is comical) destroyed WT. I don't want it to happen to another WG game like this but it already has. I only care because I have enjoyed the game since it was released but look whats happening mate? We can all sit in ivoly towers looking down and contuine to do what we are doing, but it's not good for the game and only widens the gap. Turning into a greedy cash machine. It didn't start like this chaps. But what did i really expect. Randoms is Randoms and PW2 is built into the game so i except this. But Clans is different and was the last bastion of fair ships and play. Not anymore. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,428 battles Report post #156 Posted November 30, 2018 @Redcap375 I know and agree with everything you just said. Especially about the route that war gaming is taking by bringing out T10 premiums and monetizing the game more and more. It has changed a lot in that sense. But my reply was meant for the T10 premiums which can't be bought (yet). So right now, theoraticaly (I know, I know) clans are on even footing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,291 battles Report post #157 Posted November 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: @Redcap375 I know and agree with everything you just said. Especially about the route that war gaming is taking by bringing out T10 premiums and monetizing the game more and more. It has changed a lot in that sense. But my reply was meant for the T10 premiums which can't be bought (yet). So right now, theoraticaly (I know, I know) clans are on even footing. But like you have just said mate "Theoratically". That's not an even-footing in essence. See where i'm coming from? It will get worse when the other ships come out. Please, this is not saying that people haven't earnt it as they/you bloody well have with ranked and missions, but we can not claim that it's a even footing anymore in Clans. We just can't. Whats funny is that good teams will still beat the not-so good teams regardless of what ship their in. WG have now gave us BETTER tools to do this with, hence the wider gap being created. Steel ships HAVE to be very strong else why would people waste the time grinding them in the first place? But added them into Clans was a very bad idea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soemba Players 96 posts 15,401 battles Report post #158 Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Redcap375 said: But like you have just said mate "Theoratically". That's not an even-footing in essence. See where i'm coming from? It will get worse when the other ships come out. Please, this is not saying that people haven't earnt it as they/you bloody well have with ranked and missions, but we can not claim that it's a even footing anymore in Clans. We just can't. Whats funny is that good teams will still beat the not-so good teams regardless of what ship their in. WG have now gave us BETTER tools to do this with, hence the wider gap being created. Steel ships HAVE to be very strong else why would people waste the time grinding them in the first place? But added them into Clans was a very bad idea. Which ship can be bought that can be used in Clan battles? There is no such ship. Stalingrad, play Clan battles and you will get it. Salem, get coal and you will get it Bourgogne, play clan battles and you will get it. All ships are a reward for playing the game none of them can be bought. So it is still on even ground. It only takes dedication and time 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLAST] Armorin [BLAST] Players 763 posts 13,067 battles Report post #159 Posted November 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, Soemba said: Which ship can be bought that can be used in Clan battles? There is no such ship. Stalingrad, play Clan battles and you will get it. Salem, get coal and you will get it Bourgogne, play clan battles and you will get it. All ships are a reward for playing the game none of them can be bought. So it is still on even ground. It only takes dedication and time As long as the ships are balanced, but offer something different, I'm fine with it. Came up against AAO with 5 Stalingrads and no BB on day one. We sank two of them before we scuttled all our ships. So maybe Stalingrad isn't that OP afterall and it's just an early troll formation. Or maybe AAO are not very good cause some clans whip our arse 7-0 with a more normal selection of ships. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #160 Posted November 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Excavatus said: Not a single Stalingrad has been seen! Which is the opposite of what we had on the second night, a third of our games we saw 1-2 Stalingrads being fielded. At least no one tried the 4+ Stalingrad, or maybe those guys already jumped ahead in the ranking. 50 minutes ago, Soemba said: Which ship can be bought that can be used in Clan battles? There is no such ship. Stalingrad, play Clan battles and you will get it. Salem, get coal and you will get it Bourgogne, play clan battles and you will get it. All ships are a reward for playing the game none of them can be bought. So it is still on even ground. It only takes dedication and time Salem could be bought with pure money investment if people were stupid enough to buy the premium freedom containers and then simply exchanged the tokens for normal freedom containers, the latter of which always contained coal. Then again you'd have to be equally stupid to field a Salem in CBs where it's short ranged radar is practically useless and even the improved heal won't save a Des Moines hull when push comes to shove. As for steel ships, for now they can't be bought, but with the "Steel Monsters" premium mission set coming along, steel is no longer immune to monetization and with WG already committed to making steel more accessible to everyone outside competitive game modes you can bet it's going to continue being monetized so even if the P2W at tier X concern isn't yet valid, it will be sooner rather than later. On the other hand, with WG making steel ships more accessible for everyone they won't be able to hide behind the excuse of "the ship stats are so good because only unicum players are playing them" so they might just have to actually balance those ships properly in the future, so who knows how accurate the "W" part of "P2W" might end up to be (then again, I'm not too confident in WG balans anyhow ...). 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,213 battles Report post #161 Posted November 30, 2018 Yesterday my clan had its first win against a Stalingrad team, they had exactly one. And that's because the whole team setup was centered around countering that ship, which is dumb as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM-G] gR3iF Privateer 534 posts 13,623 battles Report post #162 Posted November 30, 2018 5+ Stalins are just trolling. It doesnt work if youre used to it. 1-2 seems the reasonable number this season around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TADE] Unfortunate_Son Players 236 posts 29,562 battles Report post #163 Posted November 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, Armorin said: Came up against AAO with 5 Stalingrads and no BB on day one. We sank two of them before we scuttled all our ships. I like your sense of humour. And yes. It was a troll formation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLAST] Armorin [BLAST] Players 763 posts 13,067 battles Report post #164 Posted November 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Olbax said: I like your sense of humour. And yes. It was a troll formation. Yes, it was a fun humorous encounter. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,291 battles Report post #165 Posted November 30, 2018 First night not one Grade. 11 wins, 3 loses. Second (last) night full of them. 6 wins, 8 losses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #166 Posted November 30, 2018 why are people defending this OP piece of crap?!!! -IT HAS GUNS that can citadel any battleship in the game and any cruiser that tries to angle+2.65 sigma, super dispersion and very good velocity -ARMOR 50 mm plate that can bounce any battleship shell in the game it also has a 25mm one but how often do you hit that and if you hit it will you do reliable damage? NO! oh and the citadel.. yeah id dont know these things sit broadside in front of my henry and i can just get pens on them. of course you do not have torpedoes but hey mosvka and des moines dont have them to! it does not have the best maneuverability but same goes for the moskva! -you got radar so you can deal with destroyers and 1 minute def aa of course is weaker and it has a long cooldown but there are no CVS in clan wars. IT IS OP GUNS+ARMOR+RADAR( so it can counter destroyers)=OP. also it only weakness are strong HE ships no not the zao the ones that can get 50mm of he pen or above like hindenburgm conqueror and IPHE henry 4! And to all people defending it you are the reason why we will get more OP ships!! what are you scared that will get nerfed?? dont you see it has STALIN in its name? it wont get nerfed because its a premium and its a standard ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,213 battles Report post #167 Posted November 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said: why are people defending this OP piece of crap?!!! Because they own it? No one wants to have his toy changed when it is clearly better than other toys. I'm not saying that the ship can't be outplayed, but it is too strong even for a reward ship. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BANCN] Dean__2 Players 1,660 posts 10,861 battles Report post #168 Posted November 30, 2018 20 hours ago, OhMyDoge said: I just experienced this: Reveal hidden contents you can't imagine how funny it was (in Minotaur) It was painful to watch 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[3X] OhMyDoge Community Contributor 1,613 posts 16,998 battles Report post #169 Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Viandinea said: It was painful to watch and awkward 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,428 battles Report post #170 Posted November 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, OhMyDoge said: and awkward Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
