clan battles

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

14 minutes ago, evergroy_lows said:

That's all fine and good that they will dissappear to the top but what happens when u get board and decide to seal club the bravo league? Preventing progression for the causul clans? 

 

Does it really matter, if they club you with a Stalingrad or a Moskva ?

[ClappingLollies]

28 minutes ago, TheBlackSpirit16 said:

So you rather have us play the Moskva then right? As we can say, another fake russian wet fantaCy ship? 

Rather have the Moskva back to how she was. She is stupid now as well. My highest potential dmg in her. And that should paint a picture of how idiotic the Stalingrad is.

But what do i know. I think the Stalingrad is OP in CWs.

 

Infact. Lets break the balance completely. Buff BBs to retarded levels. Then the BB kevins can be happy aswell.

Who needs balance am i right?

[Captain_Breeze]

It might be an idea to limit each CB to 2 radar ships. We are not all unicum players.

 

[Soemba]

That isn't a solution, for example is a Minotaur a radar ship or not? Is a Yueyang a radar ship or not?

[CaLyPsOo_16]

Des Moines with double spotterplane? 

[Redcap375]

Dear god....I mean one example:

 

@Juggernauthz 

 

1 hour ago, Juggernauthz said:

this is a good ship, with strong strengths and strong weaknesses, just like Moskva. Unlike Moskva, it's just being played by better people overall, so it shows even better results. If Stalingrad didn't exist, you would complain about Worcester and Harugumo spam, so please stop being an hypocrite and go farm yourself some steel. ;)

 

Can you please enlighten us regarding your Stalingrad vs your Moskva stats please? You are a good player and hope you don't take this personally but your a prime example.

 

Because saying "just like a Moskva" is a massive understatement.  

 

Those that own this ship wont admit it which is human nature, I get it, very few truly care about balance and only defend their patch of grass. But when you have players that own it, including people like Flamu, ichase and the like saying it's OP then maybe.....It is.

 

Don't worry i will have it soon and will happy share my stats with it 

[Redcap375]

Anyway, enjoying Clans at the moment and glad it's back on. 

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 18 Stunden, gR3iF sagte:

Why isnt Stalin okay?
 

She get outdpmed by nearly any cruiser, she has a citadel, she has good ap, but you can angle vs ap, movska got the same radar.

 

Where is she op apart from the fact that she is played by the Superunicums for 90% of the times and therefore shine.

Counter question: Do you see teams picking the same cruiser 5 times in their line-up other than Stalin's Revenge?

[CaLyPsOo_16]

53 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

It might be an idea to limit each CB to 2 radar ships. We are not all unicum players.

 

You just cannot balanse team around a consumable. I mean, oke ships like Moskva, Stalingrad, Worcester cannot choose any other consumable in the Radar-slot. But balancing teams around a consumable will not work at all. Fix the consumable then (which they are planning to do if you check the Dev Blog). But I think Stalingrad is not called ''OP'' because of her radar.  

[The_Shungite_Wizard]

I never thought I'd say this but maybe a better balance by allowing midways into clan battles is the way forward 

[Juggernauthz]

12 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

Dear god....I mean one example:

 

@Juggernauthz 

 

 

Can you please enlighten us regarding your Stalingrad vs your Moskva stats please? You are a good player and hope you don't take this personally but your a prime example.

 

Because saying "just like a Moskva" is a massive understatement.  

 

Those that own this ship wont admit it which is human nature, I get it, very few truly care about balance and only defend their patch of grass. But when you have players that own it, including people like Flamu, ichase and the like saying it's OP then maybe.....It is.

 

Don't worry i will have it soon and will happy share my stats with it 

So let me explain why in this particular situation stats aren't everything:

 

- I unlocked and bought Moskva a LONG time ago. I was really bad at the time, as my stats show. I don't really like the ship and played it maybe twice in the past year.
- Regarding my Staligrad stats: compared with the server average, they suck. Why ? Because I am bad at Moskva so by default I'm bad at Stalingrad. I obtained it a short time after it was made available, so the "omg focus the op ship at all costs" was still fresh at the time. You may say "yes but you have a very high winrate". Yes, but I played all those games but two in 2/3 men division while I was in TTT. That explains both the high winrate and the low average damage.

I never said it's "just a Moskva". I said it's basically the same, just better. And also that it comes with the same strengths and weaknesses.

As I said, the ship is good, but far from OP. If you're good (which most people who own it are), then you're gonna wreck bad players. If you make mistakes, you'll get punished just as hard.

Think of it this way: if you're sailing around in your Hindenburg and get one shotted by a Montana because you showed too much broadside, will you come here to complain about it ? No ? Then what's the difference with the Stalingrad ? I'm pretty sure once you get it, we won't see you here complaining anymore about it ;)

That's human nature. People get envious/jealous, then they forget, they get used to things. Soon there will be a more "OP" ship to debate about.

[Captain_Breeze]

And people with an OP ship will always down play it as they don't want it nerfed.

[Captain_Breeze]

 

15 minutes ago, Juggernauthz said:

That's human nature. People get envious/jealous, then they forget, they get used to things. Soon there will be a more "OP" ship to debate about.

And it's human nature for people with an OP ship will always down play it as they don't want it nerfed.

[Juggernauthz]

You don't even know what you're talking about. I barely play it anymore because 1) I'm bad at it so it kills my overall PR and 2) I play other ships too. I couldn't care less if it got nerfed. 

Not gonna expand any further, you're just a sad little forum troll. :)

[Armorin]

12 minutes ago, Juggernauthz said:

1) I'm bad at it so it kills my overall PR

 

OFC it will kill your PR. The expected values for that ship is set by unicum players. Other ships expected values have some vegetables in their diet.

[GarrusBrutus]

Guys, just compare the top 100 players in moskva to those in the stalingrad....

So much for the REEEEEE STALIN OP. Because its exactly the ***** same.

[OhMyDoge]

I just experienced this:

 

Spoiler

you can't imagine how funny it was (in Minotaur)

 

[Aragathor]

2 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Guys, just compare the top 100 players in moskva to those in the stalingrad....

So much for the REEEEEE STALIN OP. Because its exactly the ***** same.

I assume you are comparing stats for randoms, this however is the topic for clan battles.

[Ysterpyp]

6 hours ago, quickr said:

That's not what @Grimwill meant 

dont lie to the guy :P

[K_NGP_N]

@Reaper_JackGBR look how OP this Stalingrad is. Its so OP they win 2 vs 5.

 

 

 

[Unfortunate_Son]

Second evening. Sh*t got real and Stalingrad -heavy lineups were history.

[CaLyPsOo_16]

Today we already noticed the switch from many clans to adaptive setups with much less Stalingrads. Usually just one instead of a Moskva. Still quite risky because it has no Hydro. So, we see allot of Stalingrad getting torped, and finally sinking because of focusfire as a result. Yeah, it might have looked ''OP''' for a day right? Would be a shame if you stopped playing Clan Battles for just one day of Stalinspam banter. 

[Excavatus]

Last night before the session I've checked the server stats for Season 4,

 

after the first day, almost all clans were still in Squall leauge, and around 10 of them promoted to the Gale league.

Last night, we played a alot of battles in 2 teams both were alphas,

full duration of the session,

Played against very good players and clans,

 

Not a single Stalingrad has been seen!

Actually no team had more than 1 moskva!

 

People were still humping islands with bow tanking desmo's, back kiting zaos and long range spamming hindis...

 

But sure,

We love drama in the WG community!

[Ysterpyp]

10 hours ago, OhMyDoge said:

I just experienced this:

 

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you can't imagine how funny it was (in Minotaur)

 

Nice sofa

[Redcap375]

First 7 games were Stalingrad heavy with the last ones less so, max was 4. At least most have gone up into the next league now. All were very good Clans so sums it up.