clan battles

[The_Shungite_Wizard]

it was a fun season of clan battles glad its over already, i can get back to my real life, i found a stalingrad wall, im going for a drink

[ApesTogetherStronK]

 

 

But comrade, no one will play Stalingrad in CB's, Moskva is better, da? 

All I can say is; 

We told you so

[The_Shungite_Wizard]

4 minutes ago, Reaper_JackGBR said:

 

 

But comrade, no one will play Stalingrad in CB's, Moskva is better, da? 

All I can say is; 

We told you so

haven't seen one all day

[Animalul2012]

yep there are still people calling this ship being not OP. yep they nerfed yueyang into oblivion because everyone was using it in cw or most of the time. but stalingrad? no it is a premium so it wont get nerfed. this is the obj 907 of wows ladies and gentlemans. 

also why would you but bourgone, akuma or any upcoming t10 steel ship when stalingrad exists? of course you would buy if it was more op than stalingrad but will that happen? i do not thing so!

[ClappingLollies]

Funny that everyone that have the Staingrad says its fine. But still use often more than two of them a game. Funny how biased ppl are. 

 

And WG. Told you so

[The_Shungite_Wizard]

nerf the YY because people can grind it, stalingrad just fine because...... you have to fight them to get one? totally genius idea 

[ClappingLollies]

Queue Stalingrad owners saying "its fine!" 

[Killerbin34]

Yup it is :)

[gR3iF]

Why isnt Stalin okay?
 

She get outdpmed by nearly any cruiser, she has a citadel, she has good ap, but you can angle vs ap, movska got the same radar.

 

Where is she op apart from the fact that she is played by the Superunicums for 90% of the times and therefore shine.

[ApesTogetherStronK]

3 minutes ago, gR3iF said:

Why isnt Stalin okay?
 

She get outdpmed by nearly any cruiser, she has a citadel, she has good ap, but you can angle vs ap, movska got the same radar.

 

Where is she op apart from the fact that she is played by the Superunicums for 90% of the times and therefore shine.

She can broadside far more than a Moskva without getting citadeled, she gets a free long range radar on a battleship platform, her HE dpm and fire chance is massive for a ship of her caliber, she reloads almost as fast as a Zao. She has the highest potential hit pool of any tier ten cruiser and finally, her AP laughs at the game mechanics. You have 25mm bow and stern armour that is supposed to autobounce me? Lol nope I go through it anyway because I have Des Moines normalization on 305mm 1000 m/s shells. 

 

She's f*****g OP.  I don't care what way you want to slice it, she is. And I am sick and tired of people who own her telling everyone she's fine because they don't want her changed so they can roflstomp on everyone else. 

[FireRM]

It is the first day of CB where everyone plays against everyone, that means you can more reliably be matched against top clans. Chances are, you would have lost those games anyway with a very small margin for error. Calm down, as we get deeper into the season, teams will all Stalingrad compositions should become less and less frequent.

 

[gR3iF]

3 minutes ago, Reaper_JackGBR said:

She can broadside far more than a Moskva without getting citadeled, she gets a free long range radar on a battleship platform, her HE dpm and fire chance is massive for a ship of her caliber, she reloads almost as fast as a Zao. She has the highest potential hit pool of any tier ten cruiser and finally, her AP laughs at the game mechanics. You have 25mm bow and stern armour that is supposed to autobounce me? Lol nope I go through it anyway because I have Des Moines normalization on 305mm 1000 m/s shells. 

 

She's f*****g OP.  I don't care what way you want to slice it, she is. And I am sick and tired of people who own her telling everyone she's fine because they don't want her changed so they can roflstomp on everyone else. 

 

 

You want to rent her? And see how you perform? 

I didnt even talked about getting outspotted by a yamato, but hey. 

[ApesTogetherStronK]

1 minute ago, FireRM said:

It is the first day of CB where everyone plays against everyone, that means you can more reliably be matched against top clans. Chances are, you would have lost those games anyway with a very small margin for error. Calm down, as we get deeper into the season, teams will all Stalingrad compositions should become less and less frequent.

 

Is that why you fielded five of them? 

Why did you if they're so weak? 

[FireRM]

1 minute ago, Reaper_JackGBR said:

Is that why you fielded five of them? 

Why did you if they're so weak? 

Did you quote the wrong post by accident? I didn't say she is weak, my argument was something completely different.

[ApesTogetherStronK]

Just now, FireRM said:

Did you quote the wrong post by accident? I didn't say she is weak, my argument was something completely different.

No, but like I said, if they're so bad and so 'balanced' according to every top clan, why did we see them fielding 5+ of the things today? The other issue is we probably will not see less of them, as first off, Typhoon level clans will inevitably fight Hurricane clans who will of course have them. And secondly; people will eventually earn steel through this season - their numbers will only increase. 

[gR3iF]

I hope you get one, I wish you do.

[ApesTogetherStronK]

Just now, gR3iF said:

I hope you get one, I wish you do.

Nope. I have no interest in something that in my hands would merrily curbstomp every poor sod I came across. 

Besides she's ugly. And a Russian wet dream fantasy. She's just not interesting. 

[FireRM]

Just now, Reaper_JackGBR said:

No, but like I said, if they're so bad and so 'balanced' according to every top clan, why did we see them fielding 5+ of the things today? The other issue is we probably will not see less of them, as first off, Typhoon level clans will inevitably fight Hurricane clans who will of course have them. And secondly; people will eventually earn steel through this season - their numbers will only increase. 

 

It is a vast generalisation that "according to every top clan" Stalingrad is fine, one which I couldn't possibly comment on.

What I am saying is that in every game that I have played today where people were complaining about the Stalingrad, I saw serious tactical mistakes and a series of misplays that contributed to the loss of the enemy team far more than the Stalingrad. My argument is, that these games were lost by the team not because of Stalingrad, but because the players themselves made poor decisions.

As for people being able to earn more and more steel, I agree, but this is a separate discussion that we need to have, not that WG will change their minds on the matter.

[GarrusBrutus]

Came to the forum as soon as the session was over for some Stalingrad=OP thread.

Was not disappointed.

[OhMyDoge]

Oh crap 7 Stalin won a CW game, must be the perfect line up. We need to check this out closer.

 

Spoiler

kidding ofc...

 

[Tyrendian89]

I should probably not mention that we "only" ran two Balancegrads, but supported that with two equally balanced Worcesters, right?

[Unfortunate_Son]

4 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Came to the forum as soon as the session was over for some Stalingrad=OP thread.

Was not disappointed.

Wanna guess why we fielded a Stalingrad lineup? 

[ApesTogetherStronK]

1 minute ago, FireRM said:

 

It is a vast generalisation that "according to every top clan" Stalingrad is fine, one which I couldn't possibly comment on.

What I am saying is that in every game that I have played today where people were complaining about the Stalingrad, I saw serious tactical mistakes and a series of misplays that contributed to the loss of the enemy team far more than the Stalingrad. My argument is, that these games were lost by the team not because of Stalingrad, but because the players themselves made poor decisions.

As for people being able to earn more and more steel, I agree, but this is a separate discussion that we need to have, not that WG will change their minds on the matter.

Again my experience was the opposite. 

Every game we had without Stalingrads we won by virtue of outplaying the enemy. Every game against Stalingrads was lost without much ability for us to do anything about it no matter what tactics were tried; against competent players using them and using islands for cover/concealment you simply cannot kill them fast enough when there are more than one of them. Add to that their own massive damage output and circumventing the only one BB rule (and yes they are BB's, their gun calibre is above the threshold for what was changed to BB AP vs DD's.) We will be tweaking some things tomorrow to see if it deals with them any better. 

 

It's worth noting that the one game we had where only one Stalin was present was close, but with three or more was just impossible to do anything meaningful against them.

[K_NGP_N]

that evidence

 

Its surely the ship and not the skill level the guys with access to stalingrad have.

[GarrusBrutus]

6 minutes ago, Olbax said:

Wanna guess why we fielded a Stalingrad lineup? 

Because you can?