[HTBT] Akagi_Nee_Sama Players 72 posts 8,013 battles Report post #1 Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) I've been looking at the premium Black ships (30% cheaper than their normal counterparts), and wanted to ask which seems the most profitable. Any idea? Edited November 26, 2018 by jensdecoolegast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,629 battles Report post #2 Posted November 26, 2018 If you mean which will earn more - neither. All of them are t8 premiums, so all of them earn about the same. Which ship would be best for you? Again - neither. Your highest silver ship is just tier 5, you are not experienced enough to actually play at tier 8. All 4 of them are like nothing you've played before. Even your highest premium - Scharnhorst - despite having a good WR over a decent number of battles, if I look at other stats it's immedeately visible that the WR comes from good luck rather than actually good performance. You'd be nothing more than an anchor dragging your teams down, and that doesn't sound like fun neither for you, nor for the other 11 unlucky players who happened to be in a team with you 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,288 posts Report post #3 Posted November 26, 2018 Can the Black ship variants change camos? Can the Tirpitz B fit Mangu-S camo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,461 posts 13,542 battles Report post #4 Posted November 26, 2018 Your Scharnhorst synergizes well with the Tirpitz in terms of commander training, especially if you grind the German BB line. The Massachusetts is better at plane kills which can give you additional XP and money, in a CV match, but has no "fun with torps" factor. A DD makes less money. Atago is a cruiser, very different fron the ships you have experience with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,692 posts 20,136 battles Report post #5 Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, jensdecoolegast said: I've been looking at the premium Black ships (30% cheaper than their normal counterparts), and wanted to ask which seems the most profitable. Any idea? The boring answer is: whatever you do most damage in (silver income is mostly dominated by damage done). If you're good with BBs, Asashio/Atago probably won't perform as well, whereas Tirpitz/MA will suit a BB meister better. Personally, I dig DDs, so the best earner for me is usually Asashio by a large margin, whereas someone who is excellent with Bismark would probably generate more silver with Tirpitz, and so on. Something to have on your radar if you're considering buying one of these things: at the moment, your average tier in randoms is 3.9 (although your most played BB is Scharnhorst) - a lot of players on here will feel strongly that dropping into T8 randoms (especially with the current MM) is unwise. If you agree with that view, perhaps get one that works especially well in Coop? Tirpitz, although the classic 'noob' premium, might do a useful job for you - it plays similarly to Scharnhorst, and works with a similar captain build... I would avoid Asashio - it'll teach you all sorts of bad habits early in your DD career; Atago is a pretty good cruiser, but there is a good chance you'll be so out of your depth in her that the fish have lights on their heads (sorry to be blunt, but T8 cruiser play is very unforgiving, even with Atago's torps and heal); MA is, by all accounts, fun and a decent shorter range BB - however, I would still avoid as she is generally felt to need a specialised captain for her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,629 battles Report post #6 Posted November 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, Fatal_Ramses said: Can the Black ship variants change camos? They should be able to 30 minutes ago, Fatal_Ramses said: Can the Tirpitz B fit Mangu-S camo? Don't think so, probably no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,288 posts Report post #7 Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, wilkatis_LV said: They should be able to Don't think so, probably no Just watched some german guy open black containers on youtube and he showed Tirpitz Bs camo selection. It seems you can mount standard camos in it but the black camo was the only perma-camo :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HTBT] Akagi_Nee_Sama Players 72 posts 8,013 battles Report post #8 Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Verblonde said: The boring answer is: whatever you do most damage in (silver income is mostly dominated by damage done). If you're good with BBs, Asashio/Atago probably won't perform as well, whereas Tirpitz/MA will suit a BB meister better. Personally, I dig DDs, so the best earner for me is usually Asashio by a large margin, whereas someone who is excellent with Bismark would probably generate more silver with Tirpitz, and so on. Something to have on your radar if you're considering buying one of these things: at the moment, your average tier in randoms is 3.9 (although your most played BB is Scharnhorst) - a lot of players on here will feel strongly that dropping into T8 randoms (especially with the current MM) is unwise. If you agree with that view, perhaps get one that works especially well in Coop? Tirpitz, although the classic 'noob' premium, might do a useful job for you - it plays similarly to Scharnhorst, and works with a similar captain build... I would avoid Asashio - it'll teach you all sorts of bad habits early in your DD career; Atago is a pretty good cruiser, but there is a good chance you'll be so out of your depth in her that the fish have lights on their heads (sorry to be blunt, but T8 cruiser play is very unforgiving, even with Atago's torps and heal); MA is, by all accounts, fun and a decent shorter range BB - however, I would still avoid as she is generally felt to need a specialised captain for her. Truth is, i've been playing the game longer than you guys think. How long? Around 4 years i suppose. I just took some pauses. It is true: my CV and Cruiser career lacks experience, but i've grown into DDs and BBs. I know the Tirpitz, her strenghts and weaknesses, just like i know my Scharnhorst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,692 posts 20,136 battles Report post #9 Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, jensdecoolegast said: Truth is, i've been playing the game longer than you guys think. How long? Around 4 years i suppose. I just took some pauses. It is true: my CV and Cruiser career lacks experience, but i've grown into DDs and BBs. I know the Tirpitz, her strenghts and weaknesses, just like i know my Scharnhorst. Ah, this account is a reroll, or you have a separate account on another server? In which case, go for it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HTBT] Akagi_Nee_Sama Players 72 posts 8,013 battles Report post #10 Posted November 26, 2018 16 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said: If you mean which will earn more - neither. All of them are t8 premiums, so all of them earn about the same. Which ship would be best for you? Again - neither. Your highest silver ship is just tier 5, you are not experienced enough to actually play at tier 8. All 4 of them are like nothing you've played before. Even your highest premium - Scharnhorst - despite having a good WR over a decent number of battles, if I look at other stats it's immedeately visible that the WR comes from good luck rather than actually good performance. You'd be nothing more than an anchor dragging your teams down, and that doesn't sound like fun neither for you, nor for the other 11 unlucky players who happened to be in a team with you Just joking lmao 15 hours ago, Verblonde said: Ah, this account is a reroll, or you have a separate account on another server? In which case, go for it... I've reached Tier 6 on one of my previous accounts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,692 posts 20,136 battles Report post #11 Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, jensdecoolegast said: I've reached Tier 6 on one of my previous accounts... Fair enough. I would still go with Tirpitz though - captain works well with Scharnhorst captain (and Gneis/Bismark), and won't need a unique build compared to the silver line (unlike MA). I stand by previous remarks apropos Atago, and T8 DDs face a significantly nastier environment than T6s at the moment (mainly due to the prevalence of radar), so avoid Asashio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #12 Posted November 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, jensdecoolegast said: I've reached Tier 6 on one of my previous accounts... amazing skill, t6 on one of the previous accounts ... such skill is very welcomed at t10 battles .... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HTBT] Akagi_Nee_Sama Players 72 posts 8,013 battles Report post #13 Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, hellhound666 said: amazing skill, t6 on one of the previous accounts ... such skill is very welcomed at t10 battles .... It will eventually be fine. Just pray to RNgesus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WOB] Lootboxer Players 3,695 posts 20,791 battles Report post #14 Posted November 26, 2018 2 minuty temu, jensdecoolegast napisał: It will eventually be fine. Just pray to RNgesus Shure, you will. As I was with my Missouri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,692 posts 20,136 battles Report post #15 Posted November 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, DariusJacek said: Shure, you will. As I was with my Missouri This is all terribly solemn and traditional; it's kind of the WG equivalent to the circle of life: Inexperienced player asks which top tier premium is the best. Experienced players all grimace, remembering when they did the silly thing and bought a too-high tier premium (mine was the IS-6 FWIW). Experienced players elucidate, with varying degrees of tact, why inexperienced player should hold off. Inexperienced player ignores advice and does it anyway. Inexperienced player predictably gets donkey handed to them. Repeatedly. Metaphorical years pass, and inexperienced player eventually gets experienced. Cycle repeats... It's quite beautiful really (in a bleak sort of way) - like those baby ducks leaping off a cliff in David Attenborough, surviving the plummet (some of them), and promptly getting leapt on by Arctic Foxes. Circle of life, man... 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antean Players 853 posts 907 battles Report post #16 Posted November 26, 2018 The only thought I had about these Black Ships is that their Camo looks impressive - WoWS knocks the 'look' out of the park, no doubt. Will I get suckered to buy these Lollipops? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,492 posts 23,764 battles Report post #17 Posted November 26, 2018 Massachusetts. The newest and probably strongest ship there. T8 is still very harsh to play so don't jump straight into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HTBT] Akagi_Nee_Sama Players 72 posts 8,013 battles Report post #18 Posted November 27, 2018 9 hours ago, antean said: The only thought I had about these Black Ships is that their Camo looks impressive - WoWS knocks the 'look' out of the park, no doubt. Will I get suckered to buy these Lollipops? No. Well... They are 30% cheaper than their normal counterparts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antean Players 853 posts 907 battles Report post #19 Posted November 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, jensdecoolegast said: Well... They are 30% cheaper than their normal counterparts... Woopee! Can we smell 'desperation'? Even at 30% less, not interested in supporting a game that screws 25% of the available classes of ship (CVs anyone? Not now) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,039 posts Report post #20 Posted November 27, 2018 Vor 5 Minuten, antean sagte: that screws 25% of the available classes of ship (CVs anyone? Not now) but it is ok that 25% of the available classes screw the game for the remaining 75% 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,192 posts 38,899 battles Report post #21 Posted November 27, 2018 If you want a black boat I d (and I did) take massa, its the most different from its techtree cousins (secondaries, short heal recycle) so imho it "adds most value" and should do ok in coop as well if you go credit farming since you can run it with free consumables there without much issue and aa, sec fires and 9 16 inchers are all good for blapping bots 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HTBT] Akagi_Nee_Sama Players 72 posts 8,013 battles Report post #22 Posted November 27, 2018 4 hours ago, antean said: Woopee! Can we smell 'desperation'? Even at 30% less, not interested in supporting a game that screws 25% of the available classes of ship (CVs anyone? Not now) Unless you take ships like Texas and Kidd... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
