[CZILL] ImiMilo Players 15 posts 3,323 battles Report post #1 Posted November 25, 2018 Dear all, what I see recently in all Jean Bart games - there is this ship, sitting in back, shooting and killing bow in with no chance to hit or seriously damage it. It just destroys all the gameplay. Even more disturbing is the fact that you can buy it (pay to win is absolutely outraging - no skill - pay - win) or only great players can get in in Arsenal, which is even more destroying games, in their hands. The community should just boycott all Jean Barts (own teams disrupt them). They just completely destroy the will to play the game and many players already wrote about it in messages ... you see that ship and no matter what you do, you just lose or win, based on the team where it is. I am OK with premium ships, but this is just the game killer 1 10 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #2 Posted November 25, 2018 If it's bow on, burn it with he 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,669 posts 8,186 battles Report post #3 Posted November 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, ImiMilo said: Dear all, what I see recently in all Jean Bart games - there is this ship, sitting in back, shooting and killing bow in with no chance to hit or seriously damage it. It just destroys all the gameplay. Even more disturbing is the fact that you can buy it (pay to win is absolutely outraging - no skill - pay - win) or only great players can get in in Arsenal, which is even more destroying games, in their hands. The community should just boycott all Jean Barts (own teams disrupt them). They just completely destroy the will to play the game and many players already wrote about it in messages ... you see that ship and no matter what you do, you just lose or win, based on the team where it is. I am OK with premium ships, but this is just the game killer Why? It is easily damageable and it is difficult for JB players to do damage with it, because it lacks caliber. German and US CA's can just go bow in and spam it with HE or torp them, without taking too much damage. Besides as far as I have noticed bow camping is not really effective in the JB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #4 Posted November 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, fallenkezef said: If it's bow on, burn it with he That. 32mm of lovably scorchable real estate. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #5 Posted November 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, fallenkezef said: If it's bow on, burn it with he Easiest HE targets, such players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted November 25, 2018 If she sits like that, she cannot flank you. If she cannot flank you, you can bounce her shells when angling. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #7 Posted November 25, 2018 I have yet to meet an actually good JB in battle... most are so incredibly bad (read: bow-tanking either in their own spawn or completely yolo) that they pretty much have zero influence on the battle. Which is not to say that JB isnt a scary ship if played well - but most are just irrelevant because they have no clue what they're doing... 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #8 Posted November 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said: I have yet to meet an actually good JB in battle... most are so incredibly bad (read: bow-tanking either in their own spawn or completely yolo) that they pretty much have zero influence on the battle. Which is not to say that JB isnt a scary ship if played well - but most are just irrelevant because they have no clue what they're doing... Good summary of a lot of BBabies there, it's not the ship, but the players. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #9 Posted November 25, 2018 34 minutes ago, ImiMilo said: with no chance to hit or seriously damage it. Outflank it. It can keep bow on only to 1 ship, as 2 or more ships can always split up AP on superstructure still does reasonable dmg in most cases HE. It's 32mm all over, so it's a really really soft target for HE Also with Izumo, Dunkek, Nelson and Richelieu in the game one would have thought that this wasn't exactly a new concept... 36 minutes ago, ImiMilo said: or only great players can get in in Arsenal It's Coal not Steel, every last pleb can freely get it. And even if it was Steel it would have just taken longer to acquire as Steel is given even for the lowest ranks of Ranked / CB, as well as it can drop in SCs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #10 Posted November 25, 2018 Somebody bring out the BB bingo card.....oh wait 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #11 Posted November 25, 2018 Everything you said is true of every other T8+ battleship. A Yamato in the same position would just as much of a threat, maybe even a North Carolina. HE can pen all over as mentioned above. IMO not a special ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PFFC] MRGTB [PFFC] Players 1,285 posts Report post #12 Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, ImiMilo said: Dear all, what I see recently in all Jean Bart games - there is this ship, sitting in back, shooting and killing bow in with no chance to hit or seriously damage it. It just destroys all the gameplay. I think you are all missing the point of what he meant. Due to the long fire range the Bart has, he means just sitting there at distance in the back - out of range of most other ships shooting range and picking off distance shots when spotted trying to farm damage "but not moving from one spot". To be fair, I can't say I've seen any Barts doing that in my games, they tend to play proper moving around the map. But I have seen plenty Mushasi doing it though. Too many in fact! So it is not much different from a lot of players that own and play the Mushasi. They tend do the same thing and can fire even further at 26.5k compared to the Bart at 24.5k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion84 Players 163 posts 1,549 battles Report post #13 Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, ColonelPete said: If she sits like that, she cannot flank you. If she cannot flank you, you can bounce her shells when angling. A quick question what is angling? Because very few players does it or at least seem to be aware of the WASD hax 😂 Also swapping ammo? What dark sorcery is this 😂? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,292 battles Report post #14 Posted November 26, 2018 6 hours ago, ImiMilo said: Dear all, what I see recently in all Jean Bart games - there is this ship, sitting in back, shooting and killing bow in with no chance to hit or seriously damage it. It just destroys all the gameplay. Even more disturbing is the fact that you can buy it (pay to win is absolutely outraging - no skill - pay - win) or only great players can get in in Arsenal, which is even more destroying games, in their hands. The community should just boycott all Jean Barts (own teams disrupt them). They just completely destroy the will to play the game and many players already wrote about it in messages ... you see that ship and no matter what you do, you just lose or win, based on the team where it is. I am OK with premium ships, but this is just the game killer HE foo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_mlJIAFnOwMVb Players 543 posts Report post #15 Posted November 26, 2018 2,694 battles and you can't find the "1" key... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #16 Posted November 26, 2018 13 hours ago, ImiMilo said: there is this ship, sitting in back, shooting and killing bow in with no chance to hit or seriously damage it. Are you sure that wasn't a Yamato, sitting at 20km? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Ysterpyp Players 1,490 posts 25,846 battles Report post #17 Posted November 26, 2018 Meanwhile , Baltimore and hipper can bounce her shells all day As other said , bow on stationary bb's are just laughable When i see a JB bow on in my DM, Worcester , kitakaze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #18 Posted November 26, 2018 13 hours ago, ImiMilo said: Dear all, what I see recently in all Jean Bart games - there is this ship, sitting in back, shooting and killing bow in with no chance to hit or seriously damage it. It just destroys all the gameplay. Even more disturbing is the fact that you can buy it (pay to win is absolutely outraging - no skill - pay - win) or only great players can get in in Arsenal, which is even more destroying games, in their hands. The community should just boycott all Jean Barts (own teams disrupt them). They just completely destroy the will to play the game and many players already wrote about it in messages ... you see that ship and no matter what you do, you just lose or win, based on the team where it is. I am OK with premium ships, but this is just the game killer Sounds terrible but I dunnoh about all that lad, just torp'd one with my Atago on Sunday. It seemed to go down just fine, also burned pretty well just before that. I've no complaints there. Mayhap improve your tactics a bit to deal with it? OR just get yourself a Yamatou or Musashiou and go see how they pen that pesky bow. I've also heard rumors that Cong can get 457, guns too while Germans can mount the 420mm, they might do the trick surely?. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #19 Posted November 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, RAHJAILARI said: Sounds terrible but I dunnoh about all that lad, just torp'd one with my Atago on Sunday. It seemed to go down just fine, also burned pretty well just before that. I've no complaints there. Mayhap improve your tactics a bit to deal with it? OR just get yourself a Yamatou or Musashiou and go see how they pen that pesky bow. I've also heard rumors that Cong can get 457, guns too while Germans can mount the 420mm, they might do the trick surely?. Conq doesn't need the 457's they just spam HE and use their concealment to ruin a JB's day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #20 Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, fallenkezef said: Conq doesn't need the 457's they just spam HE and use their concealment to ruin a JB's day Yeah I know, but one can always dream... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #21 Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, RAHJAILARI said: Yeah I know, but one can always dream... Well I sold my conq now the DD line is in, I prefer ships that actualy existed so I'm grinding for the Daring (on Jutland atm and loving it) so I look forward to torping the camping bastards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #22 Posted November 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, RAHJAILARI said: Yeah I know, but one can always dream... Conq does have the 457s. They are more accurate (2.0 sigma), but they are only 8 guns and they still cannot overmatch 32 mm BB armor like Yama/Moo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #23 Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, fallenkezef said: Well I sold my conq now the DD line is in, I prefer ships that actualy existed so I'm grinding for the Daring (on Jutland atm and loving it) so I look forward to torping the camping bastards. BWAHAHAHAHAH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #24 Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Conq does have the 457s. They are more accurate (2.0 sigma), but they are only 8 guns and they still cannot overmatch 32 mm BB armor like Yama/Moo. Awww, djäämn, there goes that theory outta window then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Snoww Players 865 posts 23,320 battles Report post #25 Posted November 26, 2018 Oh the whining recently has been top notch guys. I have had a good laugh reading all these threads crying about allegidly OP ships. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
