PSA: Black Friday 2,500 doubloon mission

[MrConway]

3 minutes ago, Eraser_SK said:

Badly worded? When i look only on picture before buy i see Ship with name and 2500 dublons and in Bundle content description is:

• Massachusetts B
• Port Slot
• Combat Mission for 2,500 doubloons on Massachusetts

 

its not badly worded, its completly scam. You should remove this mission and write its compensation for players who already have this ships... not any special missions for all.

 

The detailed description is badly worded, the bundle content description is entirely accurate. As I mentioned, please feel free to contact customer support for a refund if you misunderstood the bundle contents.

[imElitez]

4 hours ago, gopher31 said:

Just played a battle with my Tirpitz black,

I have the mission for 250 doubloons per battle but it seems i would need a regular tirpitz to get it.

 

That needs to be a PSA as in the shop it says:

"If you already have the standard Tirpitz in your collection, you can also use her to complete a special Combat Mission after purchasing the bundle. Conditions: simply enter battle on Tirpitz to claim 250 doubloons."

 

NOT the tirpitz B

 

You can ALSO USER HER....for me it means you can USE A AND B to repeat the missions. Thanks for the heads up. Ill think if i want those black ships since im not that into anything beside Massa. As the picture says the mission comes with the Bundle.

[mrk421]

4 minutes ago, MrConway said:

The detailed description is badly worded, the bundle content description is entirely accurate. As I mentioned, please feel free to contact customer support for a refund if you misunderstood the bundle contents.

Tecnhically you are of course correct, the description is 100% accurate.

 

The description is ALSO, 100% designed to take advantage of how the Human brain works. Namely, when anyone reads that description, without really concentrating on what they're reading, their brains will interpret it like: the bundle includes a special version of the Tirpitz along with a combat mission for 2500 doubloons. Only if you read carefully, with thought, it becomes evident that the Tirpitz you're buying and the Tirpitz that the mission applies to, are two different ships.

 

So yeah, I agree with the assessment that it's pretty scammy

But of course, all companies are doing it, so I guess it's OK... I never considered WG to be the gold standard in transparency anyway - although you're by far NOT among the worst either.

[Klopirat]

Vor 2 Stunden, Arakus sagte:

Tirpits B is not enough to make the mission you need also the "normal" Tirpitz! But when you have the "normal" Tirpitz you can use the Tirpitz B too!

no...

 

I had the Atago and got the Atago B from a container. After a game with the Atago B I received the mission for the doubloons. But another match with the Atago B did NOT give me doubloons, I had to play the normal Atago...

[Goomich]

48 minutes ago, Eraser_SK said:

but 2500 dublons as compensation for same ship is very low.

It's not compendation, it's +2500 gold on top of having second, cheaper ship.

[Eraser_SK]

7 minutes ago, Goomich said:

It's not compendation, it's +2500 gold on top of having second, cheaper ship.

Did you know that in WOT owners for exmaple T-34 get compensation and can buy T-34 Black for half price? 2500 dublons is nothing on top. Its same ship... you cant play both in one time. Its huge price for black camo.

 

[loppantorkel]

3 hours ago, Shaka_D said:

People actually purchased the tirptiz black? Let me guess: 'well, I was going to get one anyways', 'It was quite a good deal', ' I'm a collector'. Hahaha, just kidding, but it does make me laugh. We're such a silly bunch of humans and so programmable despite our best efforts.

 

Next month, pink tirpitz , and we'd still buy it again and again. I use the word 'we' quite loosely so as not to marginalise anyone (on purpose).

I got Bismarck in a mission a year or two ago. It's basically the same...

[Alex_Connor]

Question for anyone who has brought on of the Black ships, how do the camos work?

 

Like a normal premium perma-camo which can be removed and other camos used or you can only have black camo?

[Goomich]

7 minutes ago, Eraser_SK said:

Did you know that in WOT

No, I don't play WOT.

7 minutes ago, Eraser_SK said:

and can buy T-34 Black for half price?

You can buy Blacks for 70%...

 

8 minutes ago, Eraser_SK said:

you cant play both in one time.

But you can take two daily wins. Also another ship for Snowflakes.

[Verblonde]

4 minutes ago, Alex_Connor said:

Question for anyone who has brought on of the Black ships, how do the camos work?

 

Like a normal premium perma-camo which can be removed and other camos used or you can only have black camo?

I'd like to know the answer to this too, if anyone can oblige...

 

As to the original wording: I understood it, but as someone who occasionally writes stuff like this for my job, I would have phrased it differently, to avoid misunderstandings...

[imElitez]

If  there is a chance to revert the changes and give the doubloons mission to ALL black ships regardless of owning the normal version ill instantly buy the Black Ships package. :)

[MrConway]

37 minutes ago, mrk421 said:

Tecnhically you are of course correct, the description is 100% accurate.

 

The description is ALSO, 100% designed to take advantage of how the Human brain works. Namely, when anyone reads that description, without really concentrating on what they're reading, their brains will interpret it like: the bundle includes a special version of the Tirpitz along with a combat mission for 2500 doubloons. Only if you read carefully, with thought, it becomes evident that the Tirpitz you're buying and the Tirpitz that the mission applies to, are two different ships.

 

So yeah, I agree with the assessment that it's pretty scammy

But of course, all companies are doing it, so I guess it's OK... I never considered WG to be the gold standard in transparency anyway - although you're by far NOT among the worst either.

 

I can assure you, we will never try to deceive anyone in our shop offers - that will anyhow just lead to complaints and refunds.

 

It was an unfortunate mistake that should now be corrected!

[Klopirat]

Vor 4 Minuten, Verblonde sagte:

I'd like to know the answer to this too, if anyone can oblige...

they are normal perma camos

[Verblonde]

@Klopirat - many thanks!

[Verblonde]

I think I'll buy the 'Colossal Pervert' version of Asashio when I get home...

[Eraser_SK]

2 minutes ago, Goomich said:

You can buy Blacks for 70%...

Tirpitz cost 44,95€

 

Tirpitz B cost 31,46€ and ok you get 2500 dublons

 

31,46/44,95 = 30% discount + with 2500 dublons you never reach 70% discount... near 40% discount is stil not 50%... for ship which you already have. Of course 30% discount for someone who dont have this ship is fine.

 

[Goomich]

2 minutes ago, Eraser_SK said:

Tirpitz cost 44,95€

 

Tirpitz B cost 31,46€ and ok you get 2500 dublons

 

31,46/44,95 = 30% discount + with 2500 dublons you never reach 70% discount... near 40% discount is stil not 50%... for ship which you already have. Of course 30% discount for someone who dont have this ship is fine.

 

100%-30%=70%

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

1 hour ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said:

If they are offering compensation to people who buy Atago B and already own the regular Atago, then they should just give the owners 2500 doubloons straight up AND NOT MAKE THEM PLAY 10 GAMES.

 

Is it possible to do it in COOP ? 

 

 

[mrk421]

7 minutes ago, MrConway said:

I can assure you, we will never try to deceive anyone in our shop offers - that will anyhow just lead to complaints and refunds.

 

It was an unfortunate mistake that should now be corrected!

Firstly, very few people would demand refunds, most would just suck it up, but this would of course affect their potential future purchases. So yeah, I do believe you when you say that you don't deliberately try to deceive your customers. That would be a stupid thing to do anyway, if you're in the business for the long term...

 

Secondly, my post was not about the badly worded part, now was it? I pointed out how the bundle content description, which you said was completely accurate, would be misinterpreted, unless it was read very carefully, with thought. This is an effect of how the brain works, which wants to minimise effort, so under normal circumstances you just skim over some text and the brain fills in the blanks with its assumptions. In the case of the bundle content description, those assumptions would be wrong, leading to someone potentially making a purchase they otherwise wouldn't have made, if they had understood the contents correctly.

[Klopirat]

Gerade eben, __Helmut_Kohl__ sagte:

Is it possible to do it in COOP ? 

aye, tried it with the Atago (B) I got from a container

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

1 minute ago, Klopirat said:

aye, tried it with the Atago (B) I got from a container

 

That is still ok then, as 10 COOP are not such a pain... 

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

33 minutes ago, Klopirat said:

they are normal perma camos

 

So if you equip another camo, deck and superstructure don't stay black? 

 

That would have been so cool @MrConway

[Klopirat]

Gerade eben, __Helmut_Kohl__ sagte:

So if you equip another camo, deck and superstructure don't stay black? 

uhm I didn't look so close, I only tried to mount another camo and it worked :D

 

[tenacious_torps]

46 minutes ago, MrConway said:

 

I can assure you, we will never try to deceive anyone in our shop offers - that will anyhow just lead to complaints and refunds.

 

It was an unfortunate mistake that should now be corrected!

@MrConway Given the competence usually on display, when it comes to communications, I'm pretty sure your employer would fail hard, if WG tried intentionally to deceive. Nevertheless, you managed to do so very well without much trying. Now that this admission has been made, what about those, who bought Containers in the hope for what looked like the best deal Wargaming have offered in a very long while and find themselves several thousand doubloons short of expectations? For me those mission were the tipping point, they made me willing to take a gamble I'd not have taken otherwise. I guess I don't have to mention, that I'm seriously p.o.ed yet again.

[IanH755]

13 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

 

So if you equip another camo, deck and superstructure don't stay black? 

 

That would have been so cool @MrConway

 

Nope, and the Perma-Camo is high gloss and shiny whilst the Black-Lurker camo is more matt/dull and doesn't cover the deck. The Tirpitz Black perma-camo looks good!