The Black Friday deals are here.

[black_falcon120]

49 minutes ago, Aragathor said:

Watched Synpax open 25 boxes. He got all 4 ships and some other stuff.

The ships dropped within the first 15 crates, so he got really lucky. It was funny to see the ship poke through the side of the crate before it opened.

Banking on getting a ship and buying 6 boxes is an awful gamble, but if someone wants any one of the ships on sale it might be a risky way to try and get lucky.

~From what i read, not getting at least 2 ships in 6 is quite unlucky...

[RigorMortis76]

Bought 6 containers for €27. Got the Massachusetts and the Atago. Nice ships. Played them both once and won with plus 100 k damage.

Got 3 x 20 camos and 35000 fxp.

Happy with the boxes.

[black_falcon120]

50 minutes ago, RigorMortis76 said:

Bought 6 containers for €27. Got the Massachusetts and the Atago. Nice ships. Played them both once and won with plus 100 k damage.

Got 3 x 20 camos and 35000 fxp.

Happy with the boxes.

AHHH I did the same, got no ships....  5*20 camos and 1 gold. 

 

Does anyone know these chests have a pity timer built into them?  i.e. are the odds better for me now as I've been unlucky in the past? 

[Verblonde]

My memory is a little fuzzy (getting old!), but I bought 15 containers, in sequence (i.e. one, then another one, then another, and so on) and got something along the following lines:

• Gimp Tirpitz.
• Gimp Atago.
• Gimp Asashio (whip me, beat me, kinky piece of trash that I am!).
• Two lots of premium time (15 days a pop?).
• One or two lots of doubloons (can't remember how much - couple of thousand?).
• *Lots* of camo - of the order of just over a hundred total.
• Two lots of free xp, I think, as well (can't remember how much)

No idea if buying things singly makes a difference (although having bought several batches of six Xmas crates, any ships were always in the first couple of boxes opened).

 

Overall, I think I got my money's worth, despite all the camo, although others might argue: the Gimp ships were exactly (and only) the ones I had the vanilla versions of, so that's another 7.5K doubloons for just playing the originals, which also adds value...

[black_falcon120]

7 hours ago, Verblonde said:

My memory is a little fuzzy (getting old!), but I bought 15 containers, in sequence (i.e. one, then another one, then another, and so on) and got something along the following lines:

• Gimp Tirpitz.
• Gimp Atago.
• Gimp Asashio (whip me, beat me, kinky piece of trash that I am!).
• Two lots of premium time (15 days a pop?).
• One or two lots of doubloons (can't remember how much - couple of thousand?).
• *Lots* of camo - of the order of just over a hundred total.
• Two lots of free xp, I think, as well (can't remember how much)

No idea if buying things singly makes a difference (although having bought several batches of six Xmas crates, any ships were always in the first couple of boxes opened).

 

Overall, I think I got my money's worth, despite all the camo, although others might argue: the Gimp ships were exactly (and only) the ones I had the vanilla versions of, so that's another 7.5K doubloons for just playing the originals, which also adds value...

Ah ok thank you, I bought my crates individually, but do these crates have a catch up mechanic where getting unlucky makes you more lucky in the future?

[Verblonde]

5 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

Ah ok thank you, I bought my crates individually, but do these crates have a catch up mechanic where getting unlucky makes you more lucky in the future?

Not that I've heard about, I'm afraid...

[black_falcon120]

4 hours ago, Verblonde said:

Not that I've heard about, I'm afraid...

So if I bought another 6, id have the same chance of getting 'nothing'? 

[Verblonde]

20 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

So if I bought another 6, id have the same chance of getting 'nothing'? 

As far as I know, yes.

 

If there is a particular ship you are especially keen on, I'd perhaps just buy it - 30% off a T8 premium as about as good as it gets usually (that I've seen, and bearing in mind that WOT just did an unprecedented 50% off a few T8 premium tanks)...

 

Alternatively, wait for the Xmas boxes and hope they're as good as last year.

 

[black_falcon120]

16 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

As far as I know, yes.

 

If there is a particular ship you are especially keen on, I'd perhaps just buy it - 30% off a T8 premium as about as good as it gets usually (that I've seen, and bearing in mind that WOT just did an unprecedented 50% off a few T8 premium tanks)...

 

Alternatively, wait for the Xmas boxes and hope they're as good as last year.

 

I heard these were as good as xmas ones.  How good are xmas ones compared to these?

[Verblonde]

15 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

I heard these were as good as xmas ones.  How good are xmas ones compared to these?

We can't tell for this year - unless I've missed it, we haven't had any solid information yet.

 

As for last year, I think I bought a mixture of WOWS and WOT boxes; my (hazy) recollection is that I bought more WOT ones, as they seemed more generous. That said, the WOWS ones did give me quite a lot of ships, but they were all the 'vanilla' versions (that may be a plus or a minus, depending on one's view of the black versions).

 

The important thing to emphasise is that WG don't publish the odds, so you never have any idea how good an idea it is to buy any crate; it is always wise to assume that the majority (all?) of crates will be the worst option available, and make a decision based on that. At least until/unless WG start telling us the odds...

[AndyHill]

Now if WG just very kindly allowed us to use the anime princess version of Atago in the doubloon missions I might be reasonably satisfied. For a short while at least.

[black_falcon120]

1 hour ago, Verblonde said:

We can't tell for this year - unless I've missed it, we haven't had any solid information yet.

 

As for last year, I think I bought a mixture of WOWS and WOT boxes; my (hazy) recollection is that I bought more WOT ones, as they seemed more generous. That said, the WOWS ones did give me quite a lot of ships, but they were all the 'vanilla' versions (that may be a plus or a minus, depending on one's view of the black versions).

 

The important thing to emphasise is that WG don't publish the odds, so you never have any idea how good an idea it is to buy any crate; it is always wise to assume that the majority (all?) of crates will be the worst option available, and make a decision based on that. At least until/unless WG start telling us the odds...

how many boxes did you buy for WoWs and how many ships?

[Verblonde]

8 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

how many boxes did you buy for WoWs and how many ships?

Last year? No idea, I'm afraid; 'too many' would probably not be inaccurate, but I really can't remember even ballpark numbers. Sorry that isn't remotely helpful.

 

I probably spent at least a couple of hundred quid across both WOT/WOWS, but ended up with almost a year of premium time, quite a bit of gold (doubloons less so), as well as a number of ships that I can't remember either.

 

I do remember feeling a bit of an idiot for spending so much, but not feeling aggrieved that I hadn't got value for money. A lot like the current Black Friday crates, really...

 

To emphasise: my memory isn't great at the best of times, and this was almost a year ago, so take even my vague recollection with a huge bucket of salt.

 

Can anyone whose brain is less ravaged by age comment more helpfully?

[Verblonde]

Basically, if you want a certain return on your money, don't buy crates.

 

If you get lucky, of course you can do magnificently, but if RNG doesn't favour you...

 

[Jethro_Grey]

I got lucky.

Bought 6 crates and got them all.

[black_falcon120]

1 minute ago, Jethro_Grey said:

I got lucky.

Bought 6 crates and got them all.

Serious?

6 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

Basically, if you want a certain return on your money, don't buy crates.

 

If you get lucky, of course you can do magnificently, but if RNG doesn't favour you...

 

I want a T8 premium, not a specific t8 premium.... the odds appeared to be 1/3, so there was just a 20% chance that i'd get none of them...

[Jethro_Grey]

1 minute ago, black_falcon120 said:

Serious?

I want a T8 premium, not a specific t8 premium.... the odds appeared to be 1/3, so there was just a 20% chance that i'd get none of them...

Serious.

 

But i can't stress the "LUCKY" part enough.

I've heard from people who bought the big pack and got a single ship. 

 

Gamble at your own risk.

[Verblonde]

Just now, black_falcon120 said:

I want a T8 premium, not a specific t8 premium.... the odds appeared to be 1/3, so there was just a 20% chance that i'd get none of them...

I think 1/3 seems a little optimistic, if we're talking about ships alone - in my data-set (x15), I was 1/5 for ships, and there have been several other people I've seen on here who have struck out entirely...

 

Whilst the argument about whether these crates are gambling or not has been done to death, if you're only interested in ships then they certainly are - and we don't know the underlying odds (or even if WG change them over time, or put a cap on how many ships in total can be won etc.)...

[black_falcon120]

23 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Serious.

 

But i can't stress the "LUCKY" part enough.

I've heard from people who bought the big pack and got a single ship. 

 

Gamble at your own risk.

the big pack is how many?  and wow, I've only heard of two other people who bought the 6 pack and didn't get a single ship. 

21 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

I think 1/3 seems a little optimistic, if we're talking about ships alone - in my data-set (x15), I was 1/5 for ships, and there have been several other people I've seen on here who have struck out entirely...

 

Whilst the argument about whether these crates are gambling or not has been done to death, if you're only interested in ships then they certainly are - and we don't know the underlying odds (or even if WG change them over time, or put a cap on how many ships in total can be won etc.)...

Ah ok.  I've heard of only a few other people who got the 6 pack with no ship.  I think when you get your first ship, you're less likely to get subsequent ones, so your data set might be a bit out.

[black_falcon120]

41 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

Last year? No idea, I'm afraid; 'too many' would probably not be inaccurate, but I really can't remember even ballpark numbers. Sorry that isn't remotely helpful.

  

I probably spent at least a couple of hundred quid across both WOT/WOWS, but ended up with almost a year of premium time, quite a bit of gold (doubloons less so), as well as a number of ships that I can't remember either.

 

I do remember feeling a bit of an idiot for spending so much, but not feeling aggrieved that I hadn't got value for money. A lot like the current Black Friday crates, really...

 

To emphasise: my memory isn't great at the best of times, and this was almost a year ago, so take even my vague recollection with a huge bucket of salt.

 

Can anyone whose brain is less ravaged by age comment more helpfully?

You could go through your email receipts.... but if you can't remember which ships you got.... 

 

But if someone else could remember, it would be helpful, I'm trying to plan my purchases. 

[RegularLogic]

First free black friday crate - Massachusetts B.... aaaand I doubt i'll play it very much :3

[DuneDreamer]

13 hours ago, RegularLogic said:

First free black friday crate - Massachusetts B.... aaaand I doubt i'll play it very much :3

Just the type of person WG are counting on - doesn't think much, buys a crate, gets a ship and doesn't play it.

[black_falcon120]

1 hour ago, DuneDreamer said:

Just the type of person WG are counting on - doesn't think much, buys a crate, gets a ship and doesn't play it.

He said free crate....

[DuneDreamer]

1 hour ago, black_falcon120 said:

He said free crate....

Ships are abundant on free crates. Especially the first free one...

[Verblonde]

As a matter of interest: did people who just flat out bought one of the black ships get a captain with whatever they bought?

 

As per normal procedure, if you win a ship from a crate, you get a ten point captain with it; looking at the premium shop it *appears* that you don't if you just buy the ship.

 

This might impact the value proposition slightly if anyone is short of semi-decent captains for the nations in question...