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Only 4 CVs for each branch? :Smile_great: Equals lot more countries with CV line? :cap_fainting:

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Seriously, you're removing half of the carriers? Why? The "reason" given can be applied to all ship classes.

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What will happen with Hiryuu and Taiho and their US counterparts? Will they be permanently removed or will they come back in alternative lines/premiums ?

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18 minuti fa, Striker2523 ha scritto:

I speak as one who has grinded through both tech trees and someone who has defended the rework but this i can not unfortuantly let slide. I dont agree with the removal of every odd numbered CV especially as some of my favorite CV's are the odd numbered ones like Hiryuu, and taiho if anything i feel this is going to ruin the CV's as it will not feel like your actually progressing in the tech trees. If you increase the amount of time your forced to grind one boat then you will get bored with it and stop wanting to play it. i am also not pleased with the fact that you guys are removing ships the Wargamming team has put a lot of time and effort into creating including the two t8 premiums Enterprise and Graf Zepllin. If anythign you guys have just super limited CV's which will in my honest opinion Shrink the amount of CV players even further not increase it as you planned. So im sorry but in my honest opinion Removing Content from a line is a horrible horrible idea Please reconsider the decision to remove ships from the game or in my opinion you will lose the complete faith of your community.

I completely agree.

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9 minutes ago, snakecake said:

What will happen with Hiryuu and Taiho and their US counterparts? Will they be permanently removed or will they come back in alternative lines/premiums ?

my understanding of it from what ive read is there gone if there reimbursing us everything from them in terms of EXP and credits if we own the ships currently so id say buy buy Taiho, essex and so on.

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Reducing the number of CV-s to four/branch a clear sign, that you cant provide enough variety to a whole line, in this limited gameplay.

Refusing to give us the ability to control the cv, means a carrier wont be able to protect herself. How on earth should I attack the marching dd, and dodging the torps in one time?

Moving all the premium cv-s to tier 8 means, all of them will play in the top bracket. T8 will be flooded by prem. carriers

 

Finally the compensation. Nowadays, when I sitting on 1M+ freeExp, I can't be amazed by another 3-4k. What the hell should I do with it?

I have all the fxp ship already, and you public new reward ships for coal, steel, cooper etc... anything but Fxp.

 

  

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These changes are just stupid. what reason is there to remove half of the aircraft carrier? 
Will they come again? Or do we have to pay for them in form of premium ships? 

This is a slap in the face for collectors. 

I started the game to have every historical and existing ship in the port. I will sell them all.
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1 minute ago, Gknight_007 said:

Reducing the number of CV-s to four/branch a clear sign, that you cant provide enough variety to a whole line, in this limited gameplay.

Refusing to give us the ability to control the cv, means a carrier wont be able to protect herself. How on earth should I attack the marching dd, and dodging the torps in one time?

Moving all the premium cv-s to tier 8 means, all of them will play in the top bracket. T8 will be flooded by prem. carriers

 

Finally the compensation. Nowadays, when I sitting on 1M+ freeExp, I can't be amazed by another 3-4k. What the hell should I do with it?

I have all the fxp ship already, and you public new reward ships for coal, steel, cooper etc... anything but Fxp.

 

  

i agree completely with you in most regards except the variety for the 3 factions that historically ran CV's there is enough Ships for 4 CV lines  1 USA, 2 IJN, 1 RN so if anything there crippling a huge part of content for players and limitign the ammount of new ships they can release in the future and they announce such a horrible decision after announcing the closure of one of there games not a great idea.

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2 minutes ago, Striker2523 said:

my understanding of it from what ive read is there gone if there reimbursing us everything from them in terms of EXP and credits if we own the ships currently so id say buy buy Taiho, essex and so on.

Yea, i understood that part but some of the removed CVs are rather historical important or have impressive service record and removing them would be like removing Bismarck or Yamato, that is rather questionable imo.

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1 minute ago, snakecake said:

Yea, i understood that part but some of the removed CVs are rather historical important or have impressive service record and removing them would be like removing Bismarck or Yamato, that is rather questionable imo.

i have no idea this is just absolutely stupid not questionable its a completly bad decision which i hope they cancel as ive check the other regions forms on this topic and there all the same completly negative so hopefully they get the message.

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Something looks wrong with the Example here, Ryujo gona stay:

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edit: the Research price of Zuiho (old) would be 13600 exp :fish_book:, therefore Ryujo -> Zuiho :fish_glass:

edit2: example got reworked / corrected:

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:Smile_honoring: Blaubeeren

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This lines killing it even more for me So there saying if we decide to sell the low tiers we lose our hgh tiers regardless not a good idea.

 

At the same time, the exchange of the researched aircraft carriers will only be allowed in reverse order (from the upper tiers to the lower tiers). For example, if you decide to sell the Ranger, you will not be able to keep the higher tier aircraft carrier (tier X Midway). XP from the ship will transfer to the ship on the first tier of this nation. When you exchange or sell permanent Camos you will be reimbursed in the full value of doubloons.

 

 

 

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If you are gonna put only 4 carriers per nation (plus maybe premiums) just remove Hakuryu and put Taiho in her place. She is more iconic.

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A new problem just popped in my mind to go with my original statement is that now every CV will have to spend almost 50-75% of there grinding time punching well above there tier constantly, imagine playing a lexington or shoukaku having to fight t10 surface ships most of the time. Now take that and repeat the process for t6 and t4 and tell me you wont be spending most of your grinding time getting angry at the game for putting you bottom tier and not being able to do a lot and being stuck in that position till you earn almost double the current amount of EXP you need to advance to the next ship. this will be especially brutal for the Shoukakuand Lexington with AA monsters like the Mino, Wooshter, and des moin around so to be honest this is a horrible idea even for the ships there leaving in.

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Lets delete Taiho and keep an non existent ship...

 

I totally dislike this change, and i was about to progress towards Taiho... Well lets stop it and go back to BB and CL

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Removing CVs is something I can't agree with. Firstly because it removes a lot of ships with historical significance. Right now Taihou gets removed but papership Hakuryuu stays? 
Second it forces people to grind a single ship for a longer time which is going to be detrimental to the enjoyment. It also removes a lot of variety for very arbitrary reasons.

 

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Finally, if you do not like the new gameplay, or you want to go through the whole branch from beginning to end again, you can exchange your researched tech tree aircraft carriers for credits and free experience.

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At the same time, the exchange of the researched aircraft carriers will only be allowed in reverse order (from the upper tiers to the lower tiers). For example, if you decide to sell the Ranger, you will not be able to keep the higher tier aircraft carrier (tier X Midway). XP from the ship will transfer to the ship on the first tier of this nation. 

So wait, which is it? Will we get freexp or will our XP go to the tier 1 and need conversion?

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1 hour ago, Neil1984 said:

all good but why no ROYAL NAVY cvs with this update

 

One step at a time :) Let's first make sure it works before adding more ships ;)

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1 minute ago, Verdius said:

Removing CVs is something I can't agree with. Firstly because it removes a lot of ships with historical significance. Right now Taihou gets removed but papership Hakuryuu stays? 
Second it forces people to grind a single ship for a longer time which is going to be detrimental to the enjoyment. It also removes a lot of variety for very arbitrary reasons.

 

But then you say this:

So wait, which is it? Will we get freexp or will our XP go to the tier 1 and need conversion?

Our exp gets refunded if we give up all the cvs of a line but say we give up a lower tier only we lose the higher tier CV's regardless and instead of getting the higher tiers as Free exp they get defaulted to the lowest tier cv so basilcy there saying either give up the entire line for free exp, or give up all your cvs for a ton of regular exp on the bottem tier CV you need to pay to make free exp, or you keep all your CV's at least thats my understanding of it.

 

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You guys are heading in the right direction removing half of the carriers, but this is still a half-way solution.

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