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https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/game-updates/clan-battles-north/

 

  • Season start: November 28
  • Season end: January 20
  • Gaming sessions available on: Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday.
  • Prime time: 19:00—23:00 CET (UTC+1)

 

Ship restrictions: Tier X

 

Maps:
Land of Fire, Islands of Ice, Sea of Fortune, Warrior's Path, Sleeping Giant, Tears of the Desert, North

(Domination mode)

 

Coss-Server-MM: not this Season, still wip

 

Rating System Tweaks:
Last season we noticed that it was pretty hard for clans to move between Leagues. As a result of this, we did some research and further improved the logic of the system. In the new season, progression (i.e. climbing up the Rating system) will be smoother, and those cases where clans are matched to play against the same opposing teams will be less frequent.
 

 

Thx for the rating changes WG.

For me it is ok that it is TX again.

 

What could be improved:

If it would not be scheduled around X-mas and New Year.

Ranked would be easier at this time of the year, because you can do that whenever you have the time. CW requires the whole team to be available in the evening at specific times, which will be very hard during all of Christmas-Season and New Years. @Crysantos @MrConway

 

28 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Point is: December is chockfull with family related holidays and assorted festivities, which is basically the antithesis to sitting in front of a PC for hours and there's no pressing reason why WG shouldn't schedule CBs into a timeframe sometime either prior or following the christmas/new year's season.

 

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12 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

What could be improved:

If it would not be scheduled around X-mas and New Year.

Ranked would be easier at this time of the year, because you can do that whenever you have the time. CW requires the whole team to be available in the evening at specific times, which will be very hard around the holidays.

You are talking about a period of a week when a clan wars season 4 is almost 2 months long. It's been too long since last season i say bring it on! :fish_viking:

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3 minutes ago, quickr said:

You are talking about a period of a week when a clan wars season 4 is almost 2 months long. It's been too long since last season i say bring it on! :fish_viking:

 

I am talking about 2-3 weeks where a lot of people will be gone for the holidays, or at least not available. 

 

And if you are a small clan with high ambitions, you actually have a tight schedule every CW. Guess we will not be able to reach our goals this season. 

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1 minute ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

I am talking about 2-3 weeks where a lot of people will be gone for the holidays, or at least not available. 

 

And if you are a small clan with high ambitions, you actually have a tight schedule every CW. Guess we will not be able to reach our goals this season. 

Same case can be made for almost entire year... "why now, it's winter holidays, i'm in the alps skiing", "why now, it's easter holiday",  "why now i'm not at home, i'm visiting my family in Zimbabwe", "why now it's summer holidays", "why now, it's exam season", "why now, i'm sitting in a hospital with broken leg" or whatever....  

 

It's a two month season, i'm sure everyone will manage 1 or 2 or even 3 weeks of reduced play during xmas and new year, tho i'm fairly sure even then people will find a way to neglect their families and play the game ;) 

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7 minutes ago, quickr said:

Same case can be made for almost entire year... "why now, it's winter holidays, i'm in the alps skiing", "why now, it's easter holiday",  "why now i'm not at home, i'm visiting my family in Zimbabwe", "why now it's summer holidays", "why now, it's exam season", "why now, i'm sitting in a hospital with broken leg" or whatever....  

 

It's a two month season, i'm sure everyone will manage 1 or 2 or even 3 weeks of reduced play during xmas and new year, tho i'm fairly sure even then people will find a way to neglect their families and play the game ;) 

 

December is way more packed with evening-events related to work, friends and familiy than any other month of the year.

I am sure most people can relate.

 

Ranked would just be much easier to fit in.

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6 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

December is way more packed with evening-events related to work, friends and familiy than any other month of the year.

I am sure most people can relate.

Not to mention that people tend to visit family abroad over christmas and new year and not everyone brings their PC along for the ride or can just appropriate a family member's PC, nevermind do so over several hours during a CB session.

 

30 minutes ago, quickr said:

You are talking about a period of a week when a clan wars season 4 is almost 2 months long.

Referring to what I jsut wrote above, that one week period amounts to roughly three weeks during which I limited access to a PC (and I'd have to fight my father for it) and even less intention of NOT spending my time with my family.

Suddenly that single week looks more like half the season ...

 

 

2 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

so I guess the Global CBs with selectable prime time didnt make it in?

No it didn't.

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11 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Referring to what I just wrote above, that one week period amounts to roughly three weeks during which I limited access to a PC (and I'd have to fight my father for it) and even less intention of NOT spending my time with my family.

Suddenly that single week looks more like half the season ...

 

26 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

December is way more packed with evening-events related to work, friends and familiy than any other month of the year.

I am sure most people can relate.

 

So what you are saying it's inconvenient for you... Thankfully player base is bigger than just two of you

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1 minute ago, quickr said:

 

So what you are saying it's inconvenient for you... Thankfully player base is bigger than just two of you

Don't even try to spin this into a "you two vs the world" narrative, that's hardly representative and you should know that.

I could just the same turn that argumentation of yours around and say it's just inconvenient for you to wait a bit longer for CBs and that the playerbase is bigger than just you. See how that isn't exactly a productive point to make?

 

Point is: December is chockfull with family related holidays and assorted festivities, which is basically the antithesis to sitting in front of a PC for hours and there's no pressing reason why WG shouldn't schedule CBs into a timeframe sometime either prior or following the christmas/new year's season.

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59 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

so I guess the Global CBs with selectable prime time didnt make it in?

 

Unfortunately not. We really wanted to roll them out with the season but we encountered some very serious game and server breaking bugs that couldn't be resolved in time for the season.

 

Hopefully we can do something cross-server not long after.

 

1 hour ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/game-updates/clan-battles-north/

 

  • Season start: November 28
  • Season end: January 20
  • Gaming sessions available on: Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday.
  • Prime time: 19:00—23:00 CET (UTC+1)

 

Ship restrictions: Tier X

 

Maps:
Land of Fire, Islands of Ice, Sea of Fortune, Warrior's Path, Sleeping Giant, Tears of the Desert, North

(Domination mode)

 

Coss-Server-MM: not this Season, still wip

 

Rating System Tweaks:
Last season we noticed that it was pretty hard for clans to move between Leagues. As a result of this, we did some research and further improved the logic of the system. In the new season, progression (i.e. climbing up the Rating system) will be smoother, and those cases where clans are matched to play against the same opposing teams will be less frequent.
 

 

Thx for the rating changes WG.

For me it is ok that it is TX again.

 

What could be improved:

If it would not be scheduled around X-mas and New Year.

Ranked would be easier at this time of the year, because you can do that whenever you have the time. CW requires the whole team to be available in the evening at specific times, which will be very hard during all of Christmas-Season and New Years. @Crysantos @MrConway

 

 

I understand where you are coming from, but you should also consider that not everyone is in the same boat as you.

 

The season will be quite long and should give everyone the chance to play. Many of us have families to be with, but many others do not and have plenty of time to play during the holidays. We will never be able to please everyone with our timing.

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13 minutes ago, MrConway said:

I understand where you are coming from, but you should also consider that not everyone is in the same boat as you.

 

The season will be quite long and should give everyone the chance to play. Many of us have families to be with, but many others do not and have plenty of time to play during the holidays. We will never be able to please everyone with our timing.

 

Thx Mr. C. 

 

That is why I was suggesting Ranked for this time of the year (like last holiday season).

 

It gives everyone something to play, but is not limited to a specific time/day. 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, MrConway said:

 

Unfortunately not. We really wanted to roll them out with the season but we encountered some very serious game and server breaking bugs that couldn't be resolved in time for the season.

 

Hopefully we can do something cross-server not long after.

 

Please, I want to kick some Russian arse. :Smile_veryhappy:

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2 minutes ago, 22cm said:

Please, I want to kick some Russian arse. :Smile_veryhappy:

 

From what I hear that feeling is very much mutual :cap_popcorn:

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8 minutes ago, MrConway said:
10 minutes ago, 22cm said:

Please, I want to kick some Russian arse. :Smile_veryhappy:

From what I hear that feeling is very much mutual :cap_popcorn:

 

Can't we just agree to kick US buttocks? A friendship building military exercise!

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Hello, 19-23h, i supposed it is for people who don't have wife, kids, etc? The other might not be interested in clan wars, right?

19h00! Goodbye family, Dad is going to play, see you tomorrow, don't worry i will eat near my computer...NO!

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5 minutes ago, Krucoz said:

Hello, 19-23h, i supposed it is for people who don't have wife, kids, etc? The other might not be interested in clan wars, right?

19h00! Goodbye family, Dad is going to play, see you tomorrow, don't worry i will eat near my computer...NO!

It's a 2 month old topic and CB is almost over. what you on about?

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23 minutes ago, Krucoz said:

Hello, 19-23h, i supposed it is for people who don't have wife, kids, etc? The other might not be interested in clan wars, right?

19h00! Goodbye family, Dad is going to play, see you tomorrow, don't worry i will eat near my computer...NO!

Ok, let's take another time, maybe 14:00 - 18:00 ?

Oh, sorry i think the most players have no time then, but maybe they accept because you don't play in PRIME TIME!

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8 hours ago, quickr said:

Oh btw how many games did you managed to play @__Helmut_Kohl__ @Aotearas

 

I was unavailable for 4 weeks in total. 

 

The clan as a whole probably missed about 2 weeks overall. The larger problem was that they usually had important people missing and somehow try to fill the gaps.

 

As expected, Ranked would have been easier to fit into this busy period for people, because they could play Ranked whenever they have the time. Something you will probably experience yourself, once you get out of school or whatever you're doing right now. 

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7 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

I was unavailable for 4 weeks in total. 

If you say so. Wows numbers tell a different story, you even played on Christmas and new year, but I'll take your word for it :cap_like:

7 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

The clan as a whole probably missed about 2 weeks overall. The larger problem was that they usually had important people missing and somehow try to fill the gaps.

Looking at clan battles, some smaller clans than yours played over 200 clan battles. They didn't have any issues it seems. Strange.  :fish_book:

7 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

As expected, Ranked would have been easier to fit into this busy period for people, because they could play Ranked whenever they have the time. Something you will probably experience yourself, once you get out of school or whatever you're doing right now. 

Just your opinion man cos it seems others didn't have any issues. I know for a fact that some other clans filled two teams easy during this "busy" period.

 

 

 

I wish I was back in school, you got that right at least

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38 minutes ago, quickr said:

If you say so. Wows numbers tell a different story, you even played on Christmas and new year, but I'll take your word for it :cap_like:

 

Wow, you have too much time indeed. I had my ultrabook with me, grinding the steel missions whenever I had the time. Which was not at CW in the evening. Don't try to be a smartass. 

 

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Looking at clan battles, some smaller clans than yours played over 200 clan battles. They didn't have any issues it seems. Strange.  :fish_book:

 

What is your point? So they don't have stuff do - doesn't mean everyone else has nothing to do either. 

 

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Just your opinion man cos it seems others didn't have any issues. I know for a fact that some other clans filled two teams easy during this "busy" period.

 

Again the same wrong assumption. Of course not everyone is busy. But there are busy people playing this game too. Jesus, why don't you understand that there are both type of people here. And there can be a solution for both of them, not just for a part of them. That solution would have been Ranked. 

 

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I wish I was back in school, you got that right at least

 

Maybe then you would be able to comprehend what I am telling you. 

 

Edit: to answer your initial question: This Season I played 59 battles. Last Season 153.

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I'll keep it short and to the point as your obnoxious attitude on a Saturday morning is the last thing I need.

 

You stated an opinion that CB at this point, during holiday season, was a bad decision as most players wouldn't get the chance or time to play it, consequential, clans will have hard time filling teams Right?

The fact that only a handful of people responded in this topic and that includes Conway and a resident forum troll

The fact that clans I've been in touch with filled one with ease and often two teams

The fact that there are clans that have 200 CB games easy

The fact that even you found time to play a casual game or two or five during holiday season (even on Christmas and new year)

The fact that twitch was filled with steamers during CB prime time streaming Clan battles with hundreds and thousands of viewers

The fact that winter season is the season when most people play video games as it's cold and they prefer to stay at home

 

All that tells me that there was more than enough people playing CBs. Of course it's impossible to please everyone, that's normal. But it seems most people got to play CBs even during "busy" holiday season after all.

 

I understand what you wanted to say, the point you tried to make. If you have a job, a wife, kids.. your time is limited as it is. But we are talking about video game which is mostly played by younger audience and they have all the time in the world.

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We will see when the CB season data comes out.

 

I am personally expecting a drop in activity compared to the last one, because of the winter holidays. Our clan certainly only played bravo games in the past 2 weeks, since we are missing some key players.

 

My biggest BIGGEST problem still is that they shortened S3 and S4 compared to the first two seasons and I will keep mentioning this. I still feel like WG only wants to focus on ranked and that CB is only implemented "because they must".

(point in case: currently there is a ranked season during CBs)

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