Good DD players - Asashio - yes or no?

[ShinGetsu]

Guys, don't argue with the EDIT above. Just dismiss his nonsense and remind yourself and others he's a EDIT with no idea of how the game works and still think he is competent.

He actually hid his stats because it gave him no credibility at all.

[Yaskaraxx]

5 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

But it is a good destroyer

 

Smokes are for (radar) cruisers

- The destroyer is small and hard to hit - no need for smoke

- The concealment is pretty good - no need for smoke

- It's a torp-destroyer and doesn't rely on smoke firing

 

Objective orientated plays

- The long range torps allow the Asashio to go for the cap, while still torping enemies.

- The concealment makes it easier to outspot enemies dds, while she is still safe.

- If she gets spotted, she is good in dodging enemy shells, since she is so small..

 

 

The Asashio is the ship, where I get most Karma points, just because of the teamplay. Of course it depends on the player, who plays, but this ship improves it.

 

The Kagero has no smoke and torpedo bosst at the same time. Also the Asasio has the second hardest torpedos to dodge and 100 s reload. Only Yueyang torpedos are harder to dodge, while the normal IJN torps are the easiest to dodge. Combined with the long range makes it to a way larger thread for battle ships.

And the Akizuki has more gunpower, but the Aki is larger so she is easier to hit, while the Asashio is really hard to hit. If the Asashio maneuvers are mastered, the Aki will have trouble to hit her. Beside that, the Asashio gets soon a 20% damage buff on guns.

 

There is of course the issue, that torps only hit large warships. But hitting smaller ships is anyways more unlikely than larger ones. And because of that disadvantage the torps are so good. So this ships hits way more torps than any other dd

 

 

 

My perfomance with T8 dds:

 

 

 

...ohhh man yr REALY extreme dangerous player with Asashio, for sure, no doubt, my compliments, great stats!! cheers to you!

 

besides that, maybe worth mentioning, there is some site named "wows-numbers.com/ships" (shows actual overall stats all players & all ships sofar) & that side shows Asashio average damage 54.538 AND average XP 1.490 (=THIS translates to very, very much NETT profit credits per battle, but we knew that already) and sofar 266.010 battles played  in total + shows Asashio best T8 destroyer & Asashio even outperforming very many T9 + T10 dd's. so makes me wonder why some saying  "I am ta be compared with some actor  in that movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest when i just say: Asashio = nice ship" ...i mean facts clearly show Asashio  certainly a very nice destroyer worthwhile playing!! for sure

 

(...i mean, my personal view on it all: it's much more fun playing the excellent cool awesome looking Asashio in battles THAN say peddling around almost stationary a bit for 20 minutes on top of some slow floating coffin = T10 "cruiser" Moskva (present state), i mean, yeah, right)

[_DeathWing_]

3 hours ago, ShinGetsu said:

Guys, don't argue with the EDIT above. Just dismiss his nonsense and remind yourself and others he's a EDIT with no idea of how the game works and still think he is competent.

He actually hid his stats because it gave him no credibility at all.

Like this fine gentleman once said

[Pikkozoikum]

3 hours ago, ShinGetsu said:

Guys, don't argue with the EDIT above. Just dismiss his nonsense and remind yourself and others he's a EDIT with no idea of how the game works and still think he is competent.

He actually hid his stats because it gave him no credibility at all.

Wondering who you mean, I see nobody hiding stats, maybe I just missed it.

 

1 hour ago, Yaskaraxx said:

...ohhh man yr REALY extreme dangerous player with Asashio, for sure, no doubt, my compliments, great stats!! cheers to you!

 

besides that, maybe worth mentioning, there is some site named "wows-numbers.com/ships" (shows actual overall stats all players & all ships sofar) & that side shows Asashio average damage 54.538 AND average XP 1.490 (=THIS translates to very, very much NETT profit credits per battle, but we knew that already) and sofar 266.010 battles played  in total + shows Asashio best T8 destroyer & Asashio even outperforming very many T9 + T10 dd's. so makes me wonder why some saying  "I am ta be compared with some actor  in that movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest when i just say: Asashio = nice ship" ...i mean facts clearly show Asashio  certainly a very nice destroyer worthwhile playing!! for sure

 

(...i mean, my personal view on it all: it's much more fun playing the excellent cool awesome looking Asashio in battles THAN say peddling around almost stationary a bit for 20 minutes on top of some slow floating coffin = T10 "cruiser" Moskva (present state), i mean, yeah, right)

Just showing, that I perform better in Asashio than in any other T8, and showing the evidence, since eveyone can assert a lot. I prefer my arguments with evidences. It's not about the WR itself. It's about the difference and the relation. If I would have 50% with Asashio and 40% with Kagero this evidence would work as well and has nothing to do with stat bragging. I mean thanks anyways

 

 

 

@_DeathWing_ The most people are not even arguing here, they have only assertion, or they try to argue with false "facts". See this in this forum really often

[_DeathWing_]

13 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

Wondering who mean, I see nobody hiding stats, maybe I just missed it.

You missed a lot.

[Pikkozoikum]

2 minutes ago, _DeathWing_ said:

You missed a lot.

I thought, when the numbers of battles is shown below the avatar, the stats are not hidden... and everyone in this Forum shows his amount of battles

[_DeathWing_]

1 minute ago, Pikkozoikum said:

I thought, when the numbers of battles is shown below the avatar, the stats are not hidden... and everyone in this Forum shows his amount of battles

Check again. 

[RAMJB]

I'll state it again, from a different perspective.

90% of battles are won or lost by destroyers and their actions. the team with the most competent destroyers, doing what destroyers are supposed to do, wins the immense majority of battles.

And a destroyer has three main tasks, in this order of priority.

 

1-Fight enemy DDs and sink or force them to flee to positions they're useless at.
the team that loses the DDs first, loses the match almost 99% of the time. The team that has DDs under pressure and unable to conduct proper scouting and capping, loses the match almost 99% of the time. Hence, the first, most critical and important, job for a DD is to supress and kill enemy DDs.

 

2-Contest and cap
Contesting is a very early on way to pin the position of enemy DDs and damage or outright sink them. Caps are key as source of points. The team that gets more caps and early map control wins most of the engagements, hence a DD that's adept to NOT ONLY PASSIVELY SIT IN A CAP, but actually FIGHT OTHER CONTESTERS OUT OF IT or sink them, is a must have.
 

3-Destruction of other ships.

Obviously thinning the enemy numbers is a cornerstone of winning battles, but this is by far and large the least important role for a destroyer, because 1) and 2) are just so essential. But once the enemy DDs are gone and the team has achieved cap superiority, sure, it's time to go hunting big game.

 

 

 

Now let's rate asashio in those roles:

1)-A DD's main and first role is to find, fight, hunt, and destroy (or assist in destroying) enemy DDs.
For that asashio is the worst possible platform. It's only virtue is being low concealment - but that's no saving grace, other DDs are exceedingly stealthy aswell while being far better DD hunter/killers (kagero the first, because it has torps that can kill DDs, Asashio does not). Asashio can scout DDs - but is NOT good at killing them because any other DD will maul Asashio in a direct encounter. As for the ability of Asashio to put another DD on the run...that's laughable to say the least.

 

2)- people avobe will insist it can contest and cap. That it CAN do it doesn't mean is GOOD at it. Let's put it this way. You're in any DD you imagine in the T8 bracket and you're heading to a cap to contest it. What enemy DD would you prefer to be in the cap you're contesting?
a) a DD with overwhelming gunpower

b) a DD able to put deadly torpedoes in the water that may catch you by surprise

c) a DD with good enough gunpower and good enough torpedoes against DDs

d) a DD with mediocre gunpower and useless torpedoes against DDs.

The naysayers avobe will make excuses - I know what I want to find in a cap I'm contesting. Asashio is pretty much free XP pinhata for other destroyers, and will have to flee like all demons the second another DD spots it. Which WILL happen in a cap contest, and he won't get away unhurt. Hence Asashio is a pisspoor cap contester.


3)-Asashio is great at destroying BBs. no question about that. But that's it. It's torpedoes can't kill cruisers. In fact Asashio itself is completely useless against cruisers and destroyers, which means it's main and almost only offensive asset (short of firing guns from smoke which is situational at best with so many radars around) can't touch anything that's not a BB while almost all other DDs can and will (pan asian DWTs being a limited exception, but they still can kill cruisers) do so.

Bear in mind that a couple torpedoes on a BB are of limited uselfulness. A couple torpedoes on a cruiser are almost an instant back to port ticket. Is harder to connect on cruisers, that's a given, but the ability to hit them is still vital in most scenarios - particularily so in close fights that end with a couple ships per side, if one side has an asashio and the other has anything that's not a BB, it's an instant loss...and in the scenario with a DD vs a BB ANY other DD would win anyway.



summing up:
Asashio can't do DD stuff well. out of the three tasks a DD has, it only is actually threatening in just one (and it's limited to counter BBs in that one). It's completely one-dimensional and limited, and to a point, situational. it literally can't touch anything that's not a capital ship, which in most cases means it's completely useless against 66% of the enemy team, it's a joke as a contester (again, the people avobe will swear the contrary - the truth remains that any other DD short of a soviet gunboat or a Terrible is a better cap contester than Asashio), it can't hunt other DDs.

Long story short: people can come showing lots of damage in their battles -  It's still an awful DD because it can't do DD tasks well, and as a DD you're taking a vital spot in your team of the most game-changing class in the game (other than CVs) with something that is poor at doing what DDs are supposed to do.

 

[RAMJB]

9 hours ago, Yaskaraxx said:

do you play solo or do ya team-up with clan-members + voice-contact?

 

 

99% of my games, and as such my stats as a whole, are played solo.

[Yaskaraxx]

5 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

I thought, when the numbers of battles is shown below the avatar, the stats are not hidden... and everyone in this Forum shows his amount of battles

Hi!...seems there is BIG misunderstanding here unfortunately: I am the one hiding my stats most of the time & comments #51 and #53 were addressed to me NOT YOU (be assured of that, no doubt!) You made perfectly fine solid constructive comment based on plain facts & yr own experience (again: nice stats!!), good comment you made there imho! So this is misunderstanding, has nothing ta do with you!

 

(...some hours ago I made public (=visible) MY stats since I was challenged ta do so by SinGetshu #51 who challenges my opinion about present state of Moskva (X) since latest buff (=just an objective exchange of thoughts & SinGetshu & me, well, we realy disagree, for many months allready, but that's no problem, this is free forum & players don't have ta agree with each other, thus np). last, must say I actually value & repect both SinGetshu & _DeathWing_ very much, both have great insight in game & place very many constructive postings in forums, I much value both their constructive imput)

 

So, now better focuss again on topic at hand = Asashio(VIII). Was my last comment here since I don't know what else ta say about the Asashio: that ship is simply great imho. so, bye

[Pikkozoikum]

44 minutes ago, Yaskaraxx said:

Hi!...seems there is BIG misunderstanding here unfortunately: I am the one hiding my stats most of the time & comments #51 and #53 were addressed to me NOT YOU (be assured of that, no doubt!) You made perfectly fine solid constructive comment based on plain facts & yr own experience (again: nice stats!!), good comment you made there imho! So this is misunderstanding, has nothing ta do with you!

 

(...some hours ago I made public (=visible) MY stats since I was challenged ta do so by SinGetshu #51 who challenges my opinion about present state of Moskva (X) since latest buff (=just an objective exchange of thoughts & SinGetshu & me, well, we realy disagree, for many months allready, but that's no problem, this is free forum & players don't have ta agree with each other, thus np). last, must say I actually value & repect both SinGetshu & _DeathWing_ very much, both have great insight in game & place very many constructive postings in forums, I much value both their constructive imput)

 

So, now better focuss again on topic at hand = Asashio(VIII). Was my last comment here since I don't know what else ta say about the Asashio: that ship is simply great imho. so, bye

Your stats are shown? ;P

Also there was one other, who is hiding the stats, but I didn't saw him, so I was just wondering. But nvm, this thread is about the great Asashio

[LOZFFVII]

48 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

But nvm, this thread is about the terrible Asashio

FTFY.

[Yaskaraxx]

On 11/13/2018 at 4:08 AM, Pikkozoikum said:

But it is a good destroyer

 

Smokes are for (radar) cruisers

- The destroyer is small and hard to hit - no need for smoke

- The concealment is pretty good - no need for smoke

- It's a torp-destroyer and doesn't rely on smoke firing

 

Objective orientated plays

- The long range torps allow the Asashio to go for the cap, while still torping enemies.

- The concealment makes it easier to outspot enemies dds, while she is still safe.

- If she gets spotted, she is good in dodging enemy shells, since she is so small..

 

 

The Asashio is the ship, where I get most Karma points, just because of the teamplay. Of course it depends on the player, who plays, but this ship improves it.

 

The Kagero has no smoke and torpedo boost at the same time. Also the Asasio has the second hardest torpedos to dodge and 100 s reload. Only Yueyang torpedos are harder to dodge, while the normal IJN torps are the easiest to dodge. Combined with the long range makes it to a way larger thread for battle ships.

And the Akizuki has more gunpower, but the Aki is larger so she is easier to hit, while the Asashio is really hard to hit. If the Asashio maneuvers are mastered, the Aki will have trouble to hit her. Beside that, the Asashio gets soon a 20% damage buff on guns.

 

There is of course the issue, that torps only hit large warships. But hitting smaller ships is anyways more unlikely than larger ones. And because of that disadvantage the torps are so good. So this ships hits way more torps than any other dd

 

 

 

My perfomance with T8 dds:

 

The Asashio performs way better than the Kagero. Also to get the Torpedo load like a Asashio, the Kagero has to remove the smokes, so Kagero has less teamplay potential.

 

Maybe, this one very last comment of mine  re Asashio: when I saw yr realy great stats (!!!)...you did 167 battles with average damage 84.238(!!!) ...excellent stats...made me gotta think: I am also doing very good battles with my Asashio, so gotta wonder (say, as a challenging personal fun goal) "could I equal yr excellent stats? dunno, maybe in time when I even getta know the ship even better? dunno...but actually nice challenge for me: = can I eventually also do some 84.238 dmg on average with the GREAT Asashio?...well, I gonna try, set it as goal.....I watch me own stats (I never ever watch stats of others, never do, just me own, ta see if I reach my goals)...so watched me own stats is bit of going between 58K & 66K (up & down)...depends on circumstances in battle. Must say the German BB's are the most difficult ta hit, those have hydro & very often real smart captains...playin "Cat & Mouse" with them. But overall, ALL my battles (some over 100 as I recall) ALL me battles I REALY liked!! Real great entertainment & fun. I do realy destroy lots of enemy destroyers (at right time when they are at lower health, then I easily KNOCK em OUT, hunting them! seems enemy realy underestimating rear guns of Asashio & I like that, keep it that way, i mean keep em believing so...that's good for me! lol) & I do cappings on regular basis & I do scoutings for team & I do give smoke to cruisers and battleships when they realy need it. I never ever bothered about Carma or so, but seems quite often after battle seems some teammember appreciated me helping him or her in battle...& yes, that's ok. that's nice. Asashio = great entertainment + my Shima (X) 72 knots torps 9.6km  range, so much fun. Last battle I played with mighty Shima (72 knots + 9.6) sunk a Jutland (IX)....sunk him & he chatting (nice person): ohhh man those torps ARE so fast! lol Yeah, they SEE em coming...but there 15x of em & at 72 knots!!!...I mean...that is kind of extremely difficult ta avoid em ALL. IJN destroyers will allways stay ta be my very favourite DD's (=incl. the fast Akatsuki VII (= little Shima) with its immense fast 10kms torp-launches, triple torp-launchers, so flexible & deadly!), cool awesome ships!

 

So, trying to equal yr Asashio stats is nice fun goal for me, though I kind of think me playing: 84.238 on average damage?!??...kind of think I will not reach that, guess I will do some approx. 70k on average in time, maybe?...dunno... & that's ok with me (= lots, LOTS of credits!)

[Pikkozoikum]

1 hour ago, Yaskaraxx said:

Maybe, this one very last comment of mine  re Asashio: when I saw yr realy great stats (!!!)...you did 167 battles with average damage 84.238(!!!) ...excellent stats...made me gotta think: I am also doing very good battles with my Asashio, so gotta wonder (say, as a challenging personal fun goal) "could I equal yr excellent stats? dunno, maybe in time when I even getta know the ship even better? dunno...but actually nice challenge for me: = can I eventually also do some 84.238 dmg on average with the GREAT Asashio?...well, I gonna try, set it as goal.....I watch me own stats (I never ever watch stats of others, never do, just me own, ta see if I reach my goals)...so watched me own stats is bit of going between 58K & 66K (up & down)...depends on circumstances in battle. Must say the German BB's are the most difficult ta hit, those have hydro & very often real smart captains...playin "Cat & Mouse" with them. But overall, ALL my battles (some over 100 as I recall) ALL me battles I REALY liked!! Real great entertainment & fun. I do realy destroy lots of enemy destroyers (at right time when they are at lower health, then I easily KNOCK em OUT, hunting them! seems enemy realy underestimating rear guns of Asashio & I like that, keep it that way, i mean keep em believing so...that's good for me! lol) & I do cappings on regular basis & I do scoutings for team & I do give smoke to cruisers and battleships when they realy need it. I never ever bothered about Carma or so, but seems quite often after battle seems some teammember appreciated me helping him or her in battle...& yes, that's ok. that's nice. Asashio = great entertainment + my Shima (X) 72 knots torps 9.6km  range, so much fun. Last battle I played with mighty Shima (72 knots + 9.6) sunk a Jutland (IX)....sunk him & he chatting (nice person): ohhh man those torps ARE so fast! lol Yeah, they SEE em coming...but there 15x of em & at 72 knots!!!...I mean...that is kind of extremely difficult ta avoid em ALL. IJN destroyers will allways stay ta be my very favourite DD's (=incl. the fast Akatsuki VII (= little Shima) with its immense fast 10kms torp-launches, triple torp-launchers, so flexible & deadly!), cool awesome ships!

 

So, trying to equal yr Asashio stats is nice fun goal for me, though I kind of think me playing: 84.238 on average damage?!??...kind of think I will not reach that, guess I will do some approx. 70k on average in time, maybe?...dunno... & that's ok with me (= lots, LOTS of credits!)

It's flattering to read this, but I never really play for stats, because it just would be somehow frustrating, when I would do a match, where I perform below my average. So I just play and don't care too much about the damage number. I would never play for stats in this game, because there is a lot RNG, where you can't do anything against it. Just when a ship randomly turns away from your torps, or enemy ships just decide to move a total different way and die by your mates, when your mates too good and finish the enemy too fast, thus there is no chance to deal any damage.

 

You're right the Asashio guns are not that bad, using only rear guns, while moving in a zic zac maneuver is pretty strong. The Asashio is pretty small and the guns are maybe weaker than many other dds guns, but if the enemy can't hit you, the "weaker" Asashio guns will still do damage

[VanHelgen]

It is a ship with a stupidly low skill cap and a very high skill ceiling.. A good asashio player should be contesting points.. And it is damn hard for them to do it as well considering the competition.  My win rate is pretty abysmal with it,, Something like 40% but it is one of my favorite ships.. Extremely frustrating when you get the near misses and extremely satisfying when you get instant 70k damage and permanent flooding..(Brutally annoying to play against) It is also a pretty damn good ship to make credits with. You can easily make over 600k on it without signals. (signals can be a bad idea if you are  inexperienced like me, as games can be hit or miss)

[Yaskaraxx]

On 11/16/2018 at 7:28 AM, hel_master said:

It is a ship with a stupidly low skill cap and a very high skill ceiling.. A good asashio player should be contesting points.. And it is damn hard for them to do it as well considering the competition.  My win rate is pretty abysmal with it,, Something like 40% but it is one of my favorite ships.. Extremely frustrating when you get the near misses and extremely satisfying when you get instant 70k damage and permanent flooding..(Brutally annoying to play against) It is also a pretty damn good ship to make credits with. You can easily make over 600k on it without signals. (signals can be a bad idea if you are  inexperienced like me, as games can be hit or miss)

I think Asashio = best played with 19 points captain (=ultimately) HOWEVER, when one has less cap. points (say 8 or 10) even THEN the ship generates LOTS of credits. Is it a reallife-low-WOWS-skill-ship???..NO!! Thing is: best results ya get is WHEN you "getta think as if YOU were the captain of enemy BB yrself!!", I mean, asking yrself "what would I do when I was the enemy BB capt?...HOW would I position in time & when? What would be MY heading for (= aimed position on map)? So, it REALY is of a big advantage if you already are playing BB's yrself...so ya can better and more precise predict WHAT enemy will do & thus get more torp hits.

 

1) biggest power of Asashio fcaus are its 20 KMS 0,9 km detect FAST torps! So, don't make that say 16 km torps range with 72 knots cuz that actually means yr saying: well, I have the best range torp-ship ingame, but, ok, I make it less dangerous, voluntarily??!??...imho don't do that: PLAY it with 67knots fast 20 kms range torps! I mean, Gearing has 16,5 range 66 knots detect torps 1.4 kms. So why ever on earth would ya exchange yr 20kms range torps Asashio for 16 kms??? makes no  sense (cuz yr torps already have great speed  + 20 kms range + detect  0,9 km!!!).  So 20 kms is the strenght, keep it that way when playin Asashio, NO other ships has that!.

 

2) imho better don't go aiming at German BB's early stages of battle, since those have hydro & WILL avoid yr torps, so better pick/target some RN/USN/FRENCH BB's as a target beginning/earlier stages of battle. Later stages go hunting the remaining German BB's since at that time they already most of the times used their hydro-consumables, so ya can blast them out of the water far more easily.

 

3) About aiming: there is focussed aiming (targetting ships, but ya miss when they change direction/heading...) from say 16 kms or more range, BUT far more interesting&forcefull  is (earlier stages of battle) "AREA TORP LAUNCHINGS 16x TORPS"...you have to pick/anticipate some area on map where ya think its VERY LIKELY at some time BB's will position or pass along. This does good hittings!

 

4) Last:   when battle almost over....imho go hunting & launching up-close (yeah, is riskier play, i know, BUT brings some nice "AFTER_DINNER_EXTRA-HIGH-DAMAGE...= NICE! When ya hit some BB, stay a bit hanging around to try set it on fire since 95% of times enemy BB did use damage control, so yr fire does extra nice good damage.

 

Finally: yeah, you see on forums LOTS of players being subjectively(!) bit negative side re Asashio...so ask yrself: WHY IS THAT?....imho reason is: lots of em ARE actually main BB-players and they realy HATE the mighty & extreme dangerous 16x torp-launching-67knots-detect 0,9km Asashio, they experienced already how Asashio torped them (their BB's) to ruins! lol....so...keep focus, objectively Asashio is REALY very nice ultimate torp-destroyer (BB's + CV's only, that is) and each battle played with it makes one more & more & more experienced playing it, gets ya trickier by the day, so to speak. Anyway: besides that, ship makes great credits + me, myself I very much like ta play the Asashio over & over again, each battle provides so much fun, yeah i like that! Me, I am just a player here , done almost some 20K battles in WOWS & yeah, Asashio is realy in my very favourite list numbers #1-3 list of real fun/entertaining destroyers atm....so I kind of thought, well, yeah ok, very nice ship, I let other players know that, share my experience i mean. last comment, gonna play,  bye

[ShinGetsu]

Wow. That post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

 

Just one tip :

You know torp dispersion at 20km is terrible right ? Nobody needs to use the whole 20km range anyway, you won't hit jack with that and usually that means you're even behind your own team. You got 5.5 concealment, taking the torp speed (which also means they get to your target faster, which means less risks of your target turning before they comes close as well) is a good choice, 16km is more than enough.
 

And seriously, just stop giving advice. We know you're a complete potato and you're totally clueless about the game. It's quite infuriating having a potato trying to tell you how to play actually. You. Have. No. Clue.

 

And why the hell would you need a 19 points captain on Asashio ? Get TAE, SI and CE and you already have more than enough points with 13... 19 points captains are useful on ships that needs a LOAD of captain skills. Gunboat and Secondary specced BB in particular. Gunboat because they need BFT, SE, CE, and usually either AFT or IFHE, while Secondary specced BB are better off with 18 points for Manual secondaries, AFT and CE.

Also, Atlanta needs AFT, CE and IFHE which is another 18 points captains.

 

Other ships are usually already optimized with 14 or 15 points... And Asashio is not exception to this.

[Yaskaraxx]

19 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said:

Wow. That post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

 

Just one tip :

You know torp dispersion at 20km is terrible right ? Nobody needs to use the whole 20km range anyway, you won't hit jack with that and usually that means you're even behind your own team. You got 5.5 concealment, taking the torp speed (which also means they get to your target faster, which means less risks of your target turning before they comes close as well) is a good choice, 16km is more than enough.
 

And seriously, just stop giving advice. We know you're a complete potato and you're totally clueless about the game. It's quite infuriating having a potato trying to tell you how to play actually. You. Have. No. Clue.

 

And why the hell would you need a 19 points captain on Asashio ? Get TAE, SI and CE and you already have more than enough points with 13... 19 points captains are useful on ships that needs a LOAD of captain skills. Gunboat and Secondary specced BB in particular. Gunboat because they need BFT, SE, CE, and usually either AFT or IFHE, while Secondary specced BB are better off with 18 points for Manual secondaries, AFT and CE.

Also, Atlanta needs AFT, CE and IFHE which is another 18 points captains.

 

Other ships are usually already optimized with 14 or 15 points... And Asashio is not exception to this.

detect = 5.4 km...but you wouldn't know cuz you have played not 1x single battle with an ASASHIO (VIII)!...such makes you "the expert"...lollollol...come on...do as I did: play 120 battles with Asashio in randoms as SOLO-PLAYER ( I allways do solo) score an average damage 56k<---->65K (up & down) AND when ya have succeeded doing so THEN come back to forums "sharing yr GOLDEN-TIP advice".....first: go purchase the ship!!!! lol

 

Anyway: can't even understand WHY YOU of ALL would be interested in the Asashio??? You always claimed that yr very favourite ship was & is The Moskva (X)...as ya claim everywhere & for ALL ta see, ya claiming: "MOSKVA = THE VERY STRONGEST & BEST CHOICE FOR ONE TA HAVE AS A T10 CRUISER"!!!.....come on...ALL KNOW yr Great Moskva (X) is far lesser ship than Hindy/ZAO/HENRI/DM/WORC...Moskva is a floating COFFIN (stationary!)...but 1x thing, yeah ok, IT HAS 12 KMS RADAR!! (...but that's all......lol).

 

Anyway ya made me realy smile, made my day with yr funny comments! I like such, cheers!

[ShinGetsu]

Look, you troll, the Asashio is nothing more than a FREAKING KAGERO with 20km DW. I don't need to play it to know, because unlike you, I'm a GOOD player.

So git gud and stop wasting people time with your useless "advice". Take real players advices instead, you need it.

[Yaskaraxx]

guess, all has been said about Asashio (VIII), great ship even ourperforms my big fav Shima...but MIGHTY SHIMAKAZE (X) will allways stay ta be my most fav T10 dd...simply cuz it is IJN Shima!!!...cool..awesome..& great performing, will never ever change, simply greatest dd T10 torp-launcher imho, deadly/dangerous ship, will allways be that ways, I mean: extreme dangerous for enemy 15x times!

 

[Yaskaraxx]

On 11/17/2018 at 4:25 PM, ShinGetsu said:

.....the Asashio is nothing more than a FREAKING KAGERO with 20km DW.......

????...ehhh?...uhh???....

 

Today, I sofar played 4x battles with Asashio. 3x winning 1x lost battle

 

damage done:

77.617

102.191

40.693

201.696

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422.197 / 4 = 105.549 damage done on average (sunk 4x enemy with 9x torp hits causing lots of floodings)

 

Nett credit profits (=after deduction of ALL costs incl. premium consumables) on average 309.282 credits nett = nice!!

 

 

CHEERS!!!

[Lootboxer]

19 godzin temu, Yaskaraxx napisał:

guess, all has been said about Asashio (VIII), great ship even ourperforms my big fav Shima...but MIGHTY SHIMAKAZE (X) will allways stay ta be my most fav T10 dd...simply cuz it is IJN Shima!!!...cool..awesome..& great performing, will never ever change, simply greatest dd T10 torp-launcher imho, deadly/dangerous ship, will allways be that ways, I mean: extreme dangerous for enemy 15x times!

 

Does it? In only meaningful stats- WR Shima is better for you. And Kagero spanks all over both. All are not impressive for a start.

[Yaskaraxx]

24 minutes ago, DariusJacek said:

Does it? In only meaningful stats- WR Shima is better for you. And Kagero spanks all over both. All are not impressive for a start.

...still, doesn't that SHOW that "even the very worst WOWS-player in the known GALAXY"(= me, as stated) does actually very well with Asashio (VIII) playing it a 100% solo (I allways play SOLO, quite heroic!...aint it? lol) loosely creatively play-style (=NOT crampy/stressy-100%-team-up-allways-voice-chat-others-holding-your-hand-play-style! lol.) So, this actually proves Asashio = excellent ship?! ...gotta be...yeah?!...just doin some logically thinkin here for ya, so yeah, we agree, yeah? lol, CHEERS! (...again)

[ShinGetsu]

Your WR shows pretty evidently you have absolutely no idea of what you're doing.

Spare us your advice please. We don't need it. It's you that need to get better, not us.

[Yaskaraxx]

57 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said:

Your WR shows pretty evidently you have absolutely no idea of what you're doing.

Spare us your advice please. We don't need it. It's you that need to get better, not us.

??... go ask a random 100 gamers WHAT they ACTUALLY regard as WR & by far the most will reply to you: "well, I had a 100% WR today when I had fun & entertainment with some cool ships & great graphics/sounds, was time well spent, realy worthwhile, lots of nice action!"....so, my WR =100% (for over 2 years already!)...yeah, interesting, aint it...yeah... now try to let it sink in & try to process this 'Balanced Stance" of mine in the space between the ears..can ya?

 

...I am still surprised that ya are so negatively commenting on Asashio (VIII) while at the same you ADMIT not having played 1x single battle with it ??? Yeah, must say surprises me, realy does......does such even make sense?