Good DD players - Asashio - yes or no?

[rnat]

On 4/7/2020 at 10:49 AM, Yaskaraxx said:

btw , yr stats flawed: i have 54% winning percentage, look it up, ya fraud! hahaha...for all ta see what my stats are, 1475 battles played, now take a look (FACTS!), guys like you, who needs them? he? I am the Asashio Maestro, look it all up, i do not like frauds, the likes of you,  lol, bye, Yaskara XX

1) You're misrepresenting the facts (oh sorry i meant ofc FACTS!, i always misspell that word) here as well.

Your winrate in the Asashio is in fact about 47%. Granted this is not representative, as you have ~9x more battles in the Asashio B where you actually have a 54% WR.

But even if you combine the two you're at 53.2% (not 54%) from a combined 1639 battles as of time of writing this, which is about 1.2% above the average for the ship.

 

2) If you're such a master, then why do you do less damage in a ship specialized in farming big damage off high-health targets than some plebs do in T5 or 6 DDs ?

(And if you use your guns as often as you claim to finish off low HP ships why is it that you have so few average frags ?)

In fact it is as you said elsewhere. You are an average player, performing a few percent above average in the Asashio. That's all.

 

Now back to something more productive:

The fact is the Asashio is a good, but highly specialized Ship.

Most of the utility she brings is about equivalent to a Kagero, but it can utterly demolish any BB-push if played right.

That being said, if a CV is out for her she's dead. Very, very dead or almost entirely useless unless she can find a DM or Mino to smoke near her position. Just like (almost) any DD.

"Sneaking up" on any CV that has even a semblance of competence is suicidal.

[Pikkozoikum]

1 hour ago, rnat said:

That being said, if a CV is out for her she's dead. Very, very dead or almost entirely useless unless she can find a DM or Mino to smoke near her position. Just like (almost) any DD.

That's where the Asashio has an advantage over many other DDs. she can stay far away and still drop torps, while other DDs have to expose themself (Kagero for example).

When I play Asashio, I smoke up the cruiser close to me, with the good concealment and a cruiser around, it's quite hard for a CV to find and nuke a DD

[El2aZeR]

On 4/7/2020 at 8:28 AM, Yaskaraxx said:

hahaha, people attacking me atm for me being legend, aghhh, i rather live in shadows than this.

 

You are indeed a legend, just not for the reasons you think you are. Completely the opposite in fact.

Also no matter how often you repeat yourself, that doesn't make this ship any less worthless.

 

And I sure as  am not your friend.

[Cammo1962]

On 11/5/2018 at 7:08 PM, Zen71_sniper said:

Hello DD captains....

 

I come here for an advice - I have ground all DD lines, except RN DD (busy with it....) and I have some doubloons left thanks to RN event. I think that Asashio should never be in a game, but it is in game. That being said, HONESTLY, I can't remember a game where Asashio made a good impression on me. They usually torp from 20km or die in first 4 minutes.

 

Is it possible to play well with Asashio or is it a truly one trick pony? If you have it (experienced DD players only please....) would you buy it again?

 

Thx!

Well i would say that the Asashio is not a one trick pony and if you have the right captain skills on it it is deadly and here is one of my games in the Asashio

 

[Yaskaraxx]

On 4/8/2020 at 11:50 AM, Cammo1962 said:

Well i would say that the Asashio is not a one trick pone and if you have the right captain skills on it it is deadly and here is one of my games in the Asashio

 

sorry i was not able to respond earlier, and yes, you are one of the few realy understanding the right strategics/tactics needed for playing the great Asa in excellent ways, thus how to play the Asa effectively, and in deadly ways! Cheers to you, great game. Kind regards Yaskara XX (in fact one has to understand the ways of playing chess at the level the great Russian people do, before playing the amazing King Cobra Ninja Ashashio (VIII). Great example! My greetings, Yaskara XX

[Yaskaraxx]

On 4/8/2020 at 10:44 AM, El2aZeR said:

 

You are indeed a legend, just not for the reasons you think you are. Completely the opposite in fact.

Also no matter how often you repeat yourself, that doesn't make this ship any less worthless.

 

And I sure as  am not your friend.

...still...my MOM loves me!!!....yes...lol

[Yaskaraxx]

On 4/7/2020 at 4:27 PM, Pikkozoikum said:

That's where the Asashio has an advantage over many other DDs. she can stay far away and still drop torps, while other DDs have to expose themself (Kagero for example).

When I play Asashio, I smoke up the cruiser close to me, with the good concealment and a cruiser around, it's quite hard for a CV to find and nuke a DD

strategics + tactics speaking here, great comment by the Grandmaster, so nice to see you! Warm regards, Yaskara XX

[Yaskaraxx]

On 4/5/2020 at 6:02 PM, Yaskaraxx said:

...still this is my MOST DEAREST & PRECIOUS ONE, for sure! rgds, Yaskara XX

...must say, most destroyers are very nice (fun!) ta play. But still biggest impression on me made was the King Cobra Ninja Asashio Black (VIII), very honest here, my opinion, fun, enjoyment and so much strategics & tactics in it (each battle represents other, new goals, ways, i like such). Btw I am just a player, just as ya all, ventilating my true opinion as a community player. Yes, Asa is magnificently in battles (...if played well, that is), Yaskara XX

[Yaskaraxx]

10 hours ago, Yaskaraxx said:

...must say, most destroyers are very nice (fun!) ta play. But still biggest impression on me made was the King Cobra Ninja Asashio Black (VIII), very honest here, my opinion, fun, enjoyment and so much strategics & tactics in it (each battle represents other, new goals, ways, i like such). Btw I am just a player, just as ya all, ventilating my true opinion as a community player. Yes, Asa is magnificently in battles (...if played well, that is), Yaskara XX

....and not to forget (besides technics etc.) I myself always admired the Asashio (VIII), because it is so great looking ship (the Japanese people realy made great looking ships, indeed, take for instance the legendary Yamato (X), so great! to watch even if yr in enemy team)), yes Asa has it all! At same time i must say all other destroyers great to play (i experienced that), but if you ask me "what's yr greatest ever?" Then I would answer King Cobra Ninja Asashio Black (never seen such a great destroyer ever before, so much tricky fun enjoyable battles!). But this might be my personal subjective view setting, it is how I myself experienced it all, and as individual community player (= me), is subjective, we all have our favs ships, no one is same----> makes it great, alltogether All, have fun, enjoy much, yr fellow player, Yaskara XX

 

 

 

and never be afraid to loose yr ship (i.e. go full in & support yr teammates), we humans play the best we can & we reach out for more, the skies (that is us, humans, ONE species, we are ONE!) all enjoy much, bye Yaskara XX

 

[Cammo1962]

On 4/7/2020 at 4:27 PM, Pikkozoikum said:

That's where the Asashio has an advantage over many other DDs. she can stay far away and still drop torps, while other DDs have to expose themself (Kagero for example).

When I play Asashio, I smoke up the cruiser close to me, with the good concealment and a cruiser around, it's quite hard for a CV to find and nuke a DD

True but you still have to be on the lookout for the CV planes and my experince in the asashio is that you need to have more map attension when there is a CV in the game than you normally have 

[Yaskaraxx]

1 hour ago, Cammo1962 said:

True but you still have to be on the lookout for the CV planes and my experince in the asashio is that you need to have more map attension when there is a CV in the game than you normally have 

yes. i see it this way: battle = no ship on top food chain, yes, i watch carefully what carrier is doing minimap (asking myself: "what would I do & think  if I am that carrier captain", sometimes I let loose of cover (= heavy AA-gunned cruiser, sometimes, for a while i do not, just as complicated as playing chess and not to forget: bit of luck always welcome hahaha, just as in real battles history , for example battle Midway?" yr a very good Asa player Cammo (!), i noticed, therefore i have no doubt in my mind you also know how to play chess, understand real level, i know, such all makes it great, very great game (endless many possibilities). Must say: meeting the greatest ever Carrier player in game (as enemy) = el2aZer than i have developed different approach, hahaha (that guy is best Carrier player ever), still, we can adjust effectively, i did with new plan strategics. Yr a great Asashio (VIII) player Cammo, just a tribute, warm regards, Yaskara XX

 

 

[Cammo1962]

On 4/25/2020 at 2:28 PM, Yaskaraxx said:

yes. i see it this way: battle = no ship on top food chain, yes, i watch carefully what carrier is doing minimap (asking myself: "what would I do & think  if I am that carrier captain", sometimes I let loose of cover (= heavy AA-gunned cruiser, sometimes, for a while i do not, just as complicated as playing chess and not to forget: bit of luck always welcome hahaha, just as in real battles history , for example battle Midway?" yr a very good Asa player Cammo (!), i noticed, therefore i have no doubt in my mind you also know how to play chess, understand real level, i know, such all makes it great, very great game (endless many possibilities). Must say: meeting the greatest ever Carrier player in game (as enemy) = el2aZer than i have developed different approach, hahaha (that guy is best Carrier player ever), still, we can adjust effectively, i did with new plan strategics. Yr a great Asashio (VIII) player Cammo, just a tribute, warm regards, Yaskara XX

 

 

I am not good at chess. but have been used to make plans and secondary plans in the military for nearly 35 years and i make it my plan to know the ships  there strengs and weaknes i am playing so i know what i am up against when i am out sailing.

[Aethervoxx]

Well, I'm not a good DD player (more like average?), however, I would not  buy an Asashio which is the original question.

Why would I not buy an Asashio? It's just too much of a 'one trick pony' & it appears I do better with an all-round DD like a Z-23.  

LOL. I find this thread entertaining. Amongst others, in alphabetical order,  El2aZeR, Pikkozoikum & ofc Yaskaraxx are still 'debating', lol.

BTW, this is 'Antean' who Yaskaraxx you gifted me an Asashio  about a year ago. & some tin pot dictator accused me of being 'disruptive' so I got a 1 year forum ban.  

After a whole year out of the EU forum I did not expect you three to still be continuing on in this topic. 

I switched accounts on both EU & NA Servers so Antean is now in NA  w the Asashio (which I only play if I 'random' it for a random battle).

& my proper name is Aethervox (dimwits at WoWS transfer service made me add a 'x' to my name).

Why did I transfer? This is my main account w more ships & there's more players here in EU Server. Less players in NA hence the alt Antean account w fewer ships went there. 

[_DeathWing_]

Lol this s**t is still going on?