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On 11/5/2018 at 7:08 PM, Zen71_sniper said:

Hello DD captains....

 

I come here for an advice - I have ground all DD lines, except RN DD (busy with it....) and I have some doubloons left thanks to RN event. I think that Asashio should never be in a game, but it is in game. That being said, HONESTLY, I can't remember a game where Asashio made a good impression on me. They usually torp from 20km or die in first 4 minutes.

 

Is it possible to play well with Asashio or is it a truly one trick pony? If you have it (experienced DD players only please....) would you buy it again?

 

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...Asashio...ohh man now I am gonna tell ya a REAL story, REALY happened to me (keep in mind I am just some slight above average performance player, just 100% same as many of you)...so this is my experience with Asashio (VIII) realy happened ta me:
 
when I first purchased Asashio  I played 4 battles with it & then decided: "mehhh...f&^king boring ship...only BB's & CV's as having as a meal???...so I got rid of Asashio (sold it for credits)... BUT....1x month got by...and I saw in battle (randoms) lots of Asashio's doing actually realy GREAT???...so i gotta wonder: "did i miss something here, did i do something wrong when I also got the Asashio?" (...yeah, fcaus, I did, no doubt about that)...so I purchased Asashio again (second time)....guess what happened?? Asashio went ta be my very #1 premium destroyer!!!...since now I KNOW how ta play it.  I play it with 20 kms torps (= 0,9 detect) and Asashio has its great torp reload boost(!!)...so..when playing with all premium consumables (I allways do) very often in battle ya can lauch 16x fast low detected fishes!!! Ohh man, FUN!!
Secondly: i got aware of the fact that Asashio has real good guns!!!...heavy puncher (!) excellent shell velocity + arcs(!!), 7% fire setting, 10,9kms range = enough, smoke...so being MEMBER of a team(!!)..realizing that...I began ta realize: "yeah BB's + CV's are my Asashio main MEAL/targets...BUT...I gotta realize: there is much more to do (= many more goals/actions)! ...i mean, DO NOT go head ta head with full (or good health) Lightning/Jutland/Daring/Akizuki/Kitakaze/Harugumo (= those are the deadly gladiators!...whereas yr Asashio = THE  STEALTH NINJA!)...don't do that since those deadly strong shooters blast ya right out of the water!!...BUT..yr member of team (one of 12) and as battle progresses those heavy deadly shooting DD's get lesser & lesser health(!!!)...AND THEN Asashio comes in!!!!: it realy goes in hunting enemy DD's and finishing them off!!! Capping & winning battles!...with Asashio?!!!...yes, very, very well possible, good goals, later stages of battles.
Last: Asashio has 5,4 kms detection...THAT IS REALY FUN!!!...so ya can scout for yr team (let yr teammates do the shootings at enemy DD's!) AND ya can help yr teammembers with getting them smokes when they realy need it & join shootings when it is more safe ta do so (often happens!) brings very nice extra damage!
 
In short: knowing how ta  playing my Asashio for second time it went ta become my very #1 favourite premium T8 destroyer AND it makes excellent XP + Credits + does some 65 damage average for me (= ok, I am just a somewhat above average player).
 
So, looking afterwards, actually funny (but very TRUE story of my own experience): first I got Asashio...decided mehh (sold it).....puchased it second time...and NOW uptill present (played very many battles with it, like all of them) Asashio no doubt = me very #1 premium destroyer!!! Sometimes,I get smile on my face thinking 1st time I got Asashio I played 4 battles & sold it (got rid of it)...silly me...& now having it for 2nd time it is defenitely my very #1!!! prem DD ...funny, but true, realy happened ta me, things can have such surprising 180 degrees turns.
 
So, as just being player as you are I can only advise to other players: if you wanna have a great/excellent premium destroyer T8 go get the Asashio, you will never regret it! CHEERS!!
 
(fyi: i am a somewhat above average solo random player & my all time favourite destroyers are Shimakaze(X) + Akatsuki(VII) + prem Asashio (VIII)...this will probably never ever change for me, those ships seem ta have "something extra" ( I call, it X-factor) so incredible cool & attractive ships, love ta play those ships, allways!)
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While I'm not going to up my evaluation of Asashio overall, the ship will actually benefit from IJN gun buffs, which will (finally) make people claiming that the ship has a heavy punch not just sound silly. The ship will still have low dpm and not great hp and hardly any cruiser will give a damn about your DD gun alpha (given you cannot pen most cruisers without IFHE, which noone takes on IJN torp botes), but it will have a slightly easier time killing low-hp DDs.

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53 minutes ago, Riselotte said:

While I'm not going to up my evaluation of Asashio overall, the ship will actually benefit from IJN gun buffs, which will (finally) make people claiming that the ship has a heavy punch not just sound silly. The ship will still have low dpm and not great hp and hardly any cruiser will give a damn about your DD gun alpha (given you cannot pen most cruisers without IFHE, which noone takes on IJN torp botes), but it will have a slightly easier time killing low-hp DDs.

so true, fully agree (& yeah, core of Asashio goals fcaus = mighty torps + setting fires on BB's afterwards when BB used damage control to stop flooding, deep water torps almost always do flooding, & that's great), to maximize damage). i myself often experienced some heavy dd-shooter having some 50% health coming after, chasing my Asashio (=almost full health)....and yeah...those circumstances they better don't do that since Asashio has 2x turrets heavy punch back of ship taking em out,  quite easily. So, depends on circumstances but even the heavy shooter DD's ( I call em the GLADIATORS, so dangerous, so deadly!) better do not underestimate Asashio (= Stealth Ninja) heavy punch guns on rear (2x2 guns). Again, later stage of battles, lots of enemy dd's getta be on lower health, THAT'S the time Asashio goes hunting them & taking them out. so depends on specific circumstances at hand at some point in time in battle.

 

my 19-point captain skill settings for Asashio:

 

1) PM

2) AR + LS

3)SE + TA

4) RL (!!!!!) + CE

 

 

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There seems to be 2 kinds of people in this thread. Those who have played Asashio and loving it and those who haven't and hating it.

 

That is a very good sales pitch for the boat.

 

I've put 250 games to mine.

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1 minute ago, Altsak said:

There seems to be 2 kinds of people in this thread. Those who have played Asashio and loving it and those who haven't and hating it.

 

That is a very good sales pitch for the boat.

 

I've put 250 games to mine.

It would be if those who hate it were hating it because "it's OP and ruining the game". But the main reason some people don't buy it is because they categorically oppose the design concept behind this DD and we brought forth good reasons, not for why this DD cannot deliver some results, but why we consider it not worth the money. A monkey who got half their brain removed could play this ship and would do better than in any other DD, but that doesn't make the ship good, nor am I going to invest 40 Euro into a ship that I'd loath to play and which would encourage WG to design more such ships. Asashio is one of the first introductions that made me personally question how much I should invest overall into this game, given if this is the future, I might want no part in it.

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On ‎11‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 7:54 AM, Yaskaraxx said:

(= ok, I am just a somewhat above average player).

Sorry mate, but you're actually not quite as good as you think you are.

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29 minutes ago, Takru said:

Sorry mate, but you're actually not quite as good as you think you are.

You are not the first one who told him that and probably not the last one. 

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1 minute ago, _DeathWing_ said:

You are not the first one who told him that and probably not the last one. 

 

and yet it's still funny

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1 minute ago, _Teob_ said:

and yet it's still funny

Ironic, yes. 

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I would buy her again. It provides a lot teamplay. Good concealment for capping, small target, is able to use the smokes for teammates, since she is so small and has good concealment and also don't need to use the guns for damage

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It's a DD that doesn't do DD stuff well. It's a shitty cap contester, it's completely useless against other DDs. It's a good spotter but other than that a completely unidimensional tool for one role and just that role. Killing BBs. Which isn't bad at, but DDs win battles by capping and neutering the enemy destroyers, not by sinking BBs. Sinking BBs comes (or should come) AFTER capping and helping with killing the enemy DDs. Not before. And to top it off the complete inability to deal with cruisers at all is a kick to the nuts of an already questionable ship.

Long story short: might be a fun ship for whoever plays it but is a completely awful team asset. Given that 90% of the games are decided by whose DDs do the best DD job (which, again, isn't destroying battleships), by bringing one to battle you're actually hurting your team more than helping it.

I seriously dislike the platform as a result. I seriously think whoever brings it to battle is, with limited (VERY limited) exceptions, a selfish player who only wants to farm damage, not be a valuable team asset.

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2 hours ago, _DeathWing_ said:

Ironic, yes. 

ya say??? come on man, come on & bring yr Montana with ya (=my FAT meal! Love em!!...don't even need me 16x high damage fishes for it!)...let's have it...let's DO IT NOW, get it over with, ya never ever in decades of written history came ever even close ta beatin me, instead ya know the "floors of the Oceans as NO OTHER PLAYER does!!):
 
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But on more serious note: me stats were totally visible FULL weekend SHOWING 65 k average damage (= as a 100% SOLO-RANDOMS-PLAYER!!!) I sofar did (very many battles) with Asashio (VIII)..verifiable facts. Must say, I am not some "stats-player or so"...for me it is more about having great entertainment + great awesome looking ships + great graphics + great actions, in short Asashio (VIII) provides me with that, yeah!!!...great ship, indeed my very fav T8 prem. And besides that: doing an average of 65K with Asashio (= plain FACTS!!...& average means: sometime doing close to 200K damage, yeah, fcaus, talkin average here, get it?), I think = realy OK!!...I mean I much like my YY (X) but still Asashio outperforms my YY (which I also much like). My #1 very fav destroyer will allways be the Mighty Shima (X)...though..actually Asashio does the better scores, facts (for me, my scores I mean). So why is Shima (X) my always #1 big fav destroyer ya would ask??...explained that in the above...has all ta do with the X-Factor-for-ships & Shima HAS IT!!! (..as Akatsuki does have it, for sure!!!)
 
(nb: if ya don't know what i mean with X-factor, well, then go ask yr girlfriend, she knows, women KNOW! ...btw I think also Jean Bart (IX) has THE X-FACTOR...for sure...awesome looking cool ship!!! ...but me I gotta wonder a bit about them taking away 40secs repair party cooldown  (..better they had given slower reload, imo)...dunno...so I am gonna wait & watch & see how JB does in solo randoms...sofar I think me amazing cool awesome Massachusetts (VIII) can take out JB for sure with deadly 406mm shells, rotation 720m & with amazing 100% seconadry build I use!!!...so...let's wait & see how things will work out in near future!):cap_popcorn:

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4 hours ago, RAMJB said:

 It's a shitty cap contester

 

That's pure bollocks. My contribution to capture is 35% with it. I bet you're hard pressed to find a T8+ DD in your possession that surpasses that.

 

Asashio's strenght in the cap lays in its low concealment. Raw damage is done by your team. The long range torps helps you push the enemy BBs far back from the caps allowing your support to move closer.

 

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39 minutes ago, Altsak said:

That's pure bollocks. My contribution to capture is 35% with it. I bet you're hard pressed to find a T8+ DD in your possession that surpasses that.

Yuugumo, 38%

 

You're welcome. And can your Asashio contribute to cap defense too?

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It's not bollocks. Kagero has the same concealment, and has torps that work against DDs. All the other DDs are better at fighting off DDs out of the cap than what Asashio is.

That it CAN contest doesn't mean is a GOOD cap contender. Because it is not. Otherwise Shimakaze would be the lead cap contender at T10. And we all know how true that is, don't we?.

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10 hours ago, Takru said:

Sorry mate, but you're actually not quite as good as you think you are.

= not a nice remark and actually a stupid remark (= meaning the joke is actually on you & ya obviously don't even realize that?):

 

as a 100% solo player (I never division up, cuz I like fast, loosely playing, hop-in-and-play-and -have-FUN i mean) sofar I ended over 200x number 1-3 score-list PanAsian battles (mainly with YY) having highest PanAsian emblem & now you state that I "do not qualify as an experienced dd-player? lol..NOW i realy have a big smile on my face, i mean...
 
So, my question to you: HOW MANY players do actually "qualify" for your "high STANDARD"? 300 out of 30.000 players? OR 200 out of 30K? OR 50 players out of 30K
 
....OR...also a possibility: 1 player out of 30.000 players?...to be more precize YOU & YOU ALONE? The smile on my face now gets even BIGGER!!!...lol...guess why?
 
Besides the above, I never ever care for stats, never did and never will (entertainment/fun/action/graphics/cool looking ships = my main focuss (=reason why I play this game). And I never look at any stats of other players. Why should I do so? Not interesting to me; I instead watch how  other players ACTUALLY perform in my own battles. I don't even take the time to take a look at your stats, never ever do such. But that's the way I like ta play (=highly personal opinion).
 
Last: you COULD try to impress me by showing the highest PanAsian EMBLEM! Do ya have that one? (if not, try ta get it, takes real skills & creative play with a YY to do so AS A 100% SOLO PLAYER (=THAT makes it significantly MORE difficult to get it! I DID!...loosely...creatively, can you?)....& let me know in which future year ya succeeded to eventually get that PanAsian Emblem! lol):cap_popcorn:
 
 
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1 hour ago, RAMJB said:

That it CAN contest doesn't mean is a GOOD cap contender.

 

Your premise was that it was "shitty cap contester". Have we concluded that it isn't a "shitty cap contester"? If it hovers around the same numbers as the rest of the pack then it surely can't be "shitty".

 

Surely there's always bad players that don't know how to adapt around the tools they're given, but bad players that don't know how to cap aren't Asashio exclusive.

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It is a shitty cap contender. Doesn't have the fighting power to force enemy contesters out of a cap. Doesn't have proper torpedoes to torp smokes. All it has is good concealment, but other DDs also have good concealment and still are better contesting caps (kagero at it's tier to name just one, and Kagero is also a quite limited cap contester on it's own).

It's a shitty cap contester because all other DDs are better at it (I don't class soviet gunboats as DDs, btw, so those are out of the equation). When you're the worst of the lot at something you're shitty at it by definition. That it can do it in a pinch doesn't mean it's good at doing it. Because it is not.

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I know it says "DD players", but here's a quick look at it from BBs perspective.

 

There's a good reason why I refer to Asashio as "blank space". It's useless. Yeah, you have BBs to farm - assuming they don't own a keyboard (have to say, having Asashio hunt you for 15...20 min with landing 0....1 torpedoes in all that time is bloody hilarious), but what do you do when they are all too far away or sunk? Congratulations, you are a ship which literally can not damage anything outside of ramming them (assuming they didn't kill you on your approach). Yes, yes, you have Kageros guns. Name me a t8 DD which is a worse gunboat than a Kagero.

 

Cap contester? It's a free meal to any cruisers in the area, and it won't be able to deal with any DD it meets unless it's a Kagero, a t6 or a t7 (and even then it might get outgunned). How exactly are you supposed to contest it if you are always on the losing side of any fight that might occur there?

 

 

And here's probably the funniest thing that has happened to me in this game recently - I correctly predicted enemy Asashios movement (poor boi got spotted, from there his escape path was quite obvious) in my HIV and spotted him while coming around an island. No allies of either side near enough to intervene. He - nearly full hp, me - above half hp so who cares. Tbh in his position I would have just gone AFK then and there (or to be even more honest - wouldn't have bought the ship in the 1st place, but that's besides the point). 1) He can't torp me. 2) He can't outrun me. 3) His guns are so inefficient I could go make me a cup of tea, come back and then gun him down.

If I didn't think I need to get this done quickly so I can get back to working for a win I would have left it to my secondaries and torpedoes to kill him. Not like he could show the slightest bit of resistance.

 

If Asashios torpedoes could hit cruisers like PA DWTs do - that would be a completely different story. That ship would be viable. Or if the guns were better actually giving you some slight chance against some DDs. But as the ship is right now - I fail to understand why would anyone play it, it's pure trash. Especially when you have to pay real money to get it. It's like playing Monarch for over 2k games - just why?!

 

And yes, there actually are 2 insane people (bots?) who have done that:

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46 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said:

 

And here's probably the funniest thing that has happened to me in this game recently - I correctly predicted enemy Asashios movement (poor boi got spotted, from there his escape path was quite obvious) in my HIV and spotted him while coming around an island. No allies of either side near enough to intervene. He - nearly full hp, me - above half hp so who cares. Tbh in his position I would have just gone AFK then and there (or to be even more honest - wouldn't have bought the ship in the 1st place, but that's besides the point). 1) He can't torp me. 2) He can't outrun me. 3) His guns are so inefficient I could go make me a cup of tea, come back and then gun him down.

If I didn't think I need to get this done quickly so I can get back to working for a win I would have left it to my secondaries and torpedoes to kill him. Not like he could show the slightest bit of resistance.

So you are saying, that sailing in T10 cruiser - which is counter-DD class - you actually countered a  two tiers lower DD? Wow that’s amazing job mate!!

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Just an example of another entertaining battle I just now played with Asashio:
 
Batte was lost
my Asashio ended 3rd (=quite normal)
3 DD's each side
20 ships mostly T10 and T9 4x ships T8 
My Asashio outperformed ALL other dd's!
Map Epicentre
3x radar ships each side(!)
 
Damage done total 96.640
of which:
Flooding 15.274
Torps: 66.416
Fires: 4.712
Main battery HE shells: 10.238
1x enemy sunk
1x capping
 
My Asashio supported teammates with smoke + scouting & detected several enemy dd's so teammates could take em out or shoot at them. My Asashio played a kind of dominant role in this battle. I liked the battle (yeah, lost, ok, but was nice entertainment!).
 
= OK performance (not my best, Asashio CAN do approx 190K, I do that from time to time, depend circumstances).
 
I am still logged in game, so these battle results can be verified (I KNOW some people reading this message can do that).
 
What I mean ta say: Asashio!...yeah...I like it very much, great ships that provides real entertainment when it is played intelligently + loosely +  creatively! Part of the trick is: "think as YOU being one of the enemy BB Captains:...what would you do? And how would you position?...= called anticipating. I often launch torps without even seeing enemy BB's...anticipating their heading...and relatively often my anticipation proves to be correct (providing 1 or 2 torp hits).
 
So, just an example, played it just now, not very special BUT realy nice game-entertainment. And yes, Asashio DOES cappings AND does do ok damage with HE-shells.
 
Just as an average example, Asashio simply realy playes great!:cap_popcorn:
 
(...trust me: there is BIG difference between "talking about a ship" AND "actually PLAYING a SHIP"...I PLAY ships in battles, so I deal will hardcore FACTS! CHEERS!!)
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42 minutes ago, Yaskaraxx said:
Just an example of another entertaining battle I just now played with Asashio:
 
Batte was lost
my Asashio ended 3rd (=quite normal)
3 DD's each side
20 ships mostly T10 and T9 4x ships T8 
My Asashio outperformed ALL other dd's!
Map Epicentre
3x radar ships each side(!)
 
Damage done total 96.640
of which:
Flooding 15.274
Torps: 66.416
Fires: 4.712
Main battery HE shells: 10.238
1x enemy sunk
1x capping
 
My Asashio supported teammates with smoke + scouting & detected several enemy dd's so teammates could take em out or shoot at them. My Asashio played a kind of dominant role in this battle. I liked the battle (yeah, lost, ok, but was nice entertainment!).
 
= OK performance (not my best, Asashio CAN do approx 190K, I do that from time to time, depend circumstances).
 
I am still logged in game, so these battle results can be verified (I KNOW some people reading this message can do that).
 
What I mean ta say: Asashio!...yeah...I like it very much, great ships that provides real entertainment when it is played intelligently + loosely +  creatively! Part of the trick is: "think as YOU being one of the enemy BB Captains:...what would you do? And how would you position?...= called anticipating. I often launch torps without even seeing enemy BB's...anticipating their heading...and relatively often my anticipation proves to be correct (providing 1 or 2 torp hits).
 
So, just an example, played it just now, not very special BUT realy nice game-entertainment. And yes, Asashio DOES cappings AND does do ok damage with HE-shells.
 
Just as an average example, Asashio simply realy playes great!:cap_popcorn:
 
(...trust me: there is BIG difference between "talking about a ship" AND "actually PLAYING a SHIP"...I PLAY ships in battles, so I deal will hardcore FACTS! CHEERS!!)

 

 

I'm out of a T10 battle we won where my ognevoi was the top scorer of the team flat, and obviously the best scoring of the 4 DDs per team.

In fact I do it with astonishing regularity. 18 battles in it, PR of almost 3000, By far my best personal performance rating in anything higher than T7. And a 65% win rate to boot. I only didn't class as top 3 of my team once -and that was because I got detonated.

Yet I don't go around saying that's the best DD ever because I do well in it. It's actually quite shitty when compared with other destroyers. It can't hold a candle against Benson or Hsienyang. It's food for Lightning. Z-23 blasts it into oblivion. Kagero is a FAR better torpedo platform and Akizuki makes mincemeat out of it.

The ship is objectivelly worse than almost every other silver T8 DD. But I just know what to do with it better than when I was grinding other T8 DDs. Accordingly I perform with it better than what I did with other, better, DDs.


Now the analogy is done I'll go on with what I mean:

Yes, in good hands Asashio can perform well and have good battles. That you were the best DD out of the ones in your team only proves they were objectively much worse players than you, performing worse in objectivelly better platforms.

So ,No, that still doesn't make it a good destroyer.

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8 hours ago, RAMJB said:

So ,No, that still doesn't make it a good destroyer.

But it is a good destroyer

 

Smokes are for (radar) cruisers

- The destroyer is small and hard to hit - no need for smoke

- The concealment is pretty good - no need for smoke

- It's a torp-destroyer and doesn't rely on smoke firing

 

Objective orientated plays

- The long range torps allow the Asashio to go for the cap, while still torping enemies.

- The concealment makes it easier to outspot enemies dds, while she is still safe.

- If she gets spotted, she is good in dodging enemy shells, since she is so small..

 

 

The Asashio is the ship, where I get most Karma points, just because of the teamplay. Of course it depends on the player, who plays, but this ship improves it.

 

8 hours ago, RAMJB said:

Kagero is a FAR better torpedo platform and Akizuki makes mincemeat out of it.

The Kagero has no smoke and torpedo boost at the same time. Also the Asasio has the second hardest torpedos to dodge and 100 s reload. Only Yueyang torpedos are harder to dodge, while the normal IJN torps are the easiest to dodge. Combined with the long range makes it to a way larger thread for battle ships.

And the Akizuki has more gunpower, but the Aki is larger so she is easier to hit, while the Asashio is really hard to hit. If the Asashio maneuvers are mastered, the Aki will have trouble to hit her. Beside that, the Asashio gets soon a 20% damage buff on guns.

 

There is of course the issue, that torps only hit large warships. But hitting smaller ships is anyways more unlikely than larger ones. And because of that disadvantage the torps are so good. So this ships hits way more torps than any other dd

 

 

 

My perfomance with T8 dds:

 

The Asashio performs way better than the Kagero. Also to get the Torpedo load like a Asashio, the Kagero has to remove the smokes, so Kagero has less teamplay potential.

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48 minutes ago, RAMJB said:

 

 


Yet I don't go around saying that's the best DD ever because I do well in it.

What's the best T8 DD?...or say what's the best high tiers DD? That's highly subjective depends what kind of ship an individual player suits the most & no two players are the same. So you won't hear me saying this or that DD is the very best of all. What I state is my personal opinion (based on personal experience in battles) and yeah, for sure Shima(X) + Asashio(VIII) + Akatsuki are my PERSONAL very favourite DD's.

 

My Asashio does on average some 61k-65K damage (goes up & down) and my hightest was 203K damage. With Asashio one does on regular basis high damage battles and this is realy necessary cuz nowadays we all face many battles that seem ta be finished incredibly fast (...ya blinck with yr eyes & next ya notices almost whole yr team vaporized??...so fast...leaves yr Asashio with very low damage done, can't be avoided...such is out of yr reach, just happens) so it is very nice/good Asashio is very capable of doing  very high damage battles on regular basis.

 

Anyway: my above battle provided me with 490K NETT credit profits (= after deduction of all costs) & that's nice. Yeah I used special anniversary camo (credits on steroids extra 50%) but on average basis Asashio brings me some 210k NETT credits per battle (= average basis) but ok, Asashio is a very nice premium-ship, for sure.

 

Fyi: my above mentioned battle I faced 2x Shima's + Worc teamed-up (enemy team) + 1x Cossack. I mean, if I face (me allways playing 100% as solo player) experienced players (and they were!..had highest emblems + ranks & same clan!) 3x enemy players in division against me, well, makes thing bit more tricky for me, so I anticipate (have ta!). Those guys teamed-up having voice-contact with each other + being experienced players same clan means I have get tricky and anticipate with my Asashio. Since I myself play solo (yeah, teaming-up is the way ta go high tiers, I know, but I myself never ever do so, I am more the kind of"hop-in-and-play-type...fast action + entertainment).

 

Nice to hear you like yr Ognevoi(VIII)...do you play solo or do ya team-up with clan-members + voice-contact? Would realy benefit yr stats, teaming-up I mean! Anyway, I myself am NOT playing for stats, never did & never will (= not my goal) I am just here playing this great game for some "fast & nice excellent entertainment". See, invididual players all have their very own goals when playing a game, generally speaking. So, nice ta hear you enjoy yr Ognevoi(VIII)!!! Next step for you is the realy excellent Udaloi (IX)...go for it, I wish ya nice battles & succes!:cap_popcorn:

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