[COMFY] howardxu_23 Players 793 posts 2,080 battles Report post #1 Posted November 5, 2018 Came across a topic in from the depths fourm where people are debating which weapon is the most effective, a 2m derp cannon or 2000 rpm 80mm dakka gun. So i decide to ask you peeps the same thing, which kind of weapon do you prefer, derp cannon or more dakka. personnaly i preffer derp cannons, since i decide the weapons effectiveness based on the state of the target before getting hit and after getting hit, and dakka guns can have very little effect in certain situations, derp guns always can have some effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #2 Posted November 5, 2018 not that it hurts when the Dakka is big as well... 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #3 Posted November 5, 2018 Jedi light saber, of course. Trust me, is the best. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] howardxu_23 Players 793 posts 2,080 battles Report post #4 Posted November 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said: not that it hurts when the Dakka is big as well... Well for the sake for this thread it’s more on slow firing, large calibre derp cannon vs high rpm, small calibre dakka gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #5 Posted November 5, 2018 I feel like accuracy should also be a important aspect, since derp gun implies that it is supposedly inaccurate as well. Your shell can be as big as you like but if you can't hit the target its not much good is it? That said quantity has a quality of its own. A steady stream of water will penetrate the very mountains and earth, and a steady stream of shells will destroy any armour eventually. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estaca_de_Bares Players 1,534 posts 25,837 battles Report post #6 Posted November 5, 2018 If I were to choose just one, probably rate of fire. Even in the atomic era more is better than bigger, which is why MIRVs exist and Tsar Bomba was just a test (leaving aside treaties' limitations that pushed things that way). In any case, neither are good enough without platform survivability and vector accuracy. Salute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #7 Posted November 5, 2018 Both - playing one or the other all the time gets dull... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B0TS] philjd Beta Tester 1,806 posts 7,738 battles Report post #8 Posted November 5, 2018 Derp guns great when loaded and up close and personal, but tend to be not so good at range or when not ready (long reload) Daka daka - always loaded and good to go, but chips away solidly and not splatting, which can be a downside when you really really need to blat your target. Minotaur is my favourite ship, so no need to even guess which is my preference, but both are very useful in their own ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMP] Hummus Weekend Tester 605 posts 5,346 battles Report post #9 Posted November 5, 2018 My most played ship is the Atlanta ...... Turns out I'm a 'more dakka' man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BambaZonke Players 25 posts 7,339 battles Report post #10 Posted November 5, 2018 I'm a bit old school, since I owned both a mk3 Lee Enfield and a Mauser k98 I preferred the Lee Enfield's cocking on close and bolt angle better than the K98s cocking on opening. also the ergonomics for me seemed better enabling decent groups at 200+ meters. another plus is the extra 5 rounds in the magazine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #11 Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Verdius said: A steady stream of water will penetrate the very mountains and earth Verdius - the Confucious of World of Warships! Total respect! (I wish that I could write something that profound instead of the dribble that I usually spew forth) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #12 Posted November 5, 2018 I prefer sniper consistent accurate pinpoint strikes. if i had to choose either it would be dpm because im not sum bloodeh ork ere roight?! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #13 Posted November 5, 2018 Derp was my chioce. It's true that 8 out of 10 is usually a miss but man when those 2 out of 10 happen, the lolz make up for it in spades 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #14 Posted November 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: Verdius - the Confucious of World of Warships! Total respect! Except that isn't Confucius. Its from the Tao Te Ching, attributed to Laozi (who likely is just a mythical figure and the actual author is lost to time). Although these days I've seen more people attribute it to Bruce Lee which is kind of derp 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #15 Posted November 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, Verdius said: Except that isn't Confucius. Its from the Tao Te Ching, attributed to Laozi (who likely is just a mythical figure and the actual author is lost to time). Although these days people I've seen more people attribute it to Bruce Lee which is kind of derp Are you still chasing bbs with that light machine gun of yours? i think you secretly like dakkas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #16 Posted November 5, 2018 Well, I'm a big fan of Kitakaze with her 100mm IJN guns and her 1x6x2 (TRB) 12km torpedoes that aren't super fast and are easily spotted but can make a veery satisfying boom if they somehow connect. Obviously, the only possible answer was "both" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #17 Posted November 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, Verdius said: Except that isn't Confucius. Its from the Tao Te Ching, attributed to Laozi (who likely is just a mythical figure and the actual author is lost to time). Although these days people I've seen more people attribute it to Bruce Lee which is kind of derp I did not know the origin. I thought that you made it up and I was impressed by its profundity. I'm afraid that I'm going to have to drop your rank from "Super Hero" to just "Hero". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #18 Posted November 5, 2018 Well, having a big derpy gun might be fun once in a while RIP that one guy in WoT last night that just disappeared when I shot it with my KV2 But any self respecting ork human conscious being will automatically drawn to gratuitous amounts of dakka. As for the question to what is enough dakka.... I believe that the Man emperor of Mankind explained it best: (from the brilliant "If the Emperor had a text to speech device" youtube series) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #19 Posted November 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Tyrendian89 said: not that it hurts when the Dakka is big as well... Don't know if anyone here is old enough to remember the old BattleTech board game?!? For arena one-on-one battles I modified my 100 t mech to using only machine guns. And an axe. And Jump Jets. Ended up with - I think - 30 or so machine guns. The advantages? zero heat buildup when one MG gets destroyed, there's still tons more of them the chances for critical hits to the head area was greatly raised... And with armour in the head region limited, that meant that sometimes after the third salvo the enemy pilot was dead or unconscious and the fight was won... In WoWs I like the Derp Gun ships with the added dakka-dakka... Izumo, Musashi, Bismarck... soon Yamato... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lin3 Players 746 posts Report post #20 Posted November 5, 2018 I'm not a good enough aimer to be any good at derp guns in this game. I need the dakka dakka to walk my shells in. Which is a bit funny as the KV-2 was my favourite tank in WOT. But then I suppose that's because one-shots in the KV-2 happen much more often in Tanks than they do in the Lyon in Warships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] howardxu_23 Players 793 posts 2,080 battles Report post #21 Posted November 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Verdius said: I feel like accuracy should also be a important aspect, since derp gun implies that it is supposedly inaccurate as well. Your shell can be as big as you like but if you can't hit the target its not much good is it? That said quantity has a quality of its own. A steady stream of water will penetrate the very mountains and earth, and a steady stream of shells will destroy any armour eventually. Well it only works if the target has gone afk for a extended period of time, or is unable to fight back for some reason. I still take 3 out of 10 chance of vaporising the target in question with derp gun imo. if it works 30% of the time then it works every time :) and since it happens quite uncommonly then the time it does connect the results will always be hilarious—dakka is too reliable since the target will always dies, it’s the matter of how long does he takes to die. 1 hour ago, Exocet6951 said: Well, having a big derpy gun might be fun once in a while RIP that one guy in WoT last night that just disappeared when I shot it with my KV2 But any self respecting ork human conscious being will automatically drawn to gratuitous amounts of dakka. As for the question to what is enough dakka.... I believe that the Man emperor of Mankind explained it best: (from the brilliant "If the Emperor had a text to speech device" youtube series) “Mutilaser mastubation”-emperor uhhh..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GMT] Phlogistoned Players 779 posts Report post #22 Posted November 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: Verdius - the Confucious of World of Warships! Total respect! (I wish that I could write something that profound instead of the dribble that I usually spew forth) You are underestimating youself! A steady dribble will ALSO penetrate the very mountains and Earth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #23 Posted November 6, 2018 As for the question at hand: Firstoff about calibre in general: Spoiler You have not only the option to reduce the calibre or increase the rof but you just add and use wingturrets! I did say it the last time I played Nassau ... Ofc battleship calibre, aka Stumbolters, guns have accuracy issue, but then again ...... Spoiler Likewise there are ofc torpedoes-launchers aka .... Spoiler High rof and good fire chance has ofc the added benefit to potentially Spoiler Also dont forget, that its not only about guns, launchers and amo -> there are also the objective and some filthy red xeno scum might be stealing your cap right now; aka .... Spoiler Never forget the are ships that are a fusion of Daka and Derp like Bismarck (or even the holy Trinity of them all: Tirpitz) and if you are toptier, its your explicit job to play like this...... Spoiler or if you are not top tier ...... Spoiler See? Subtle differences. Oh yeah, I forgot: And CVs worship Chaos - act accordingly ........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] howardxu_23 Players 793 posts 2,080 battles Report post #24 Posted November 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said: In WoWs I like the Derp Gun ships with the added dakka-dakka... Izumo, Musashi, Bismarck... soon Yamato... Yamato is the true derp cannon ship, largest cannon in the game....at least until devs add a 2x51cm prototype version to it(although I doubt of much use, since it will only overmatch up to and including 35mm of armor) also shows derp can be accurate as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #25 Posted November 6, 2018 53 minutes ago, howardxu_23 said: Yamato is the true derp cannon ship, largest cannon in the game....at least until devs add a 2x51cm prototype version to it(although I doubt of much use, since it will only overmatch up to and including 35mm of armor) also shows derp can be accurate as well. Well, entire derp cannon comes from WoT and refers to short barreled howitzers. Naval guns with barrel length of 40+ calibers, same as "proper" AT guns don't really qualify as derps 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites