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Please do something about conclement. To often ships pop up like flashing lights. Dont show me a Yamato at 30k and hide a kurfust at 10k, Dont show me ships behind a Island other than on the map. Show spotted ships on the map fine.

 

And why o why do T8 ships Always fight against T9 and T10 is it realy only because ot the campains? Fights again axis and allies would be nice also .

 

At the moment i feel its just about earning $.

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It helps to understand the spotting system. Otherwise flashing ships are unusual, maybe it is your computer.

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4 minutes ago, Killroy67 said:

Please do something about conclement. To often ships pop up like flashing lights. Dont show me a Yamato at 30k and hide a kurfust at 10k, Dont show me ships behind a Island other than on the map. Show spotted ships on the map fine.

or, you know, you could actually get a clue or two about how the spotting mechanics work... but that's probably too much effort, right?

 

4 minutes ago, Killroy67 said:

And why o why do T8 ships Always fight against T9 and T10 is it realy only because ot the campains?

valid, but has been that way for ages (and is apparently even worse in Tanks), WG dont seem to give a monkey's...

 

5 minutes ago, Killroy67 said:

Fights again axis and allies would be nice also .

no they wouldn't. Error 404 balance not found.

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I have the Grosser Kurfurst... How do you get it to 10km detection? Even with CE, if you use it, it only goes down to about 13.5km... please explain?

 

T8 ships have always played with T10... How do you expect to advance unless you learn the capabilities of the ships you will face at the higher tiers...

 

Stop complaining and learn as everyone else has had to do.

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3 minutes ago, Killroy67 said:

i watched all there fancy video's about how concelment works. I dont think you can say that it works great and realistic

 

it works exactly the way it's supposed to. This is a game, not a simulator - realism doenst factor in here.

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25 minutes ago, Killroy67 said:

Dont show me ships behind a Island other than on the map

 

Why dont you want to see spotted ships?

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8 minutes ago, Killroy67 said:

i watched all there fancy video's about how concelment works. I dont think you can say that it works great and realistic

 

 

It works in a consistent way and it's easy to understand (unlike you using there to indicate of them). 

The system isn't perfect with battleships having the same duration gun bloom as destroyers with guns 1/3rd to 1/4 the size and it's not very realistic, but the game isn't a simulator, it's a game.

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1 hour ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

I have the Grosser Kurfurst... How do you get it to 10km detection? Even with CE, if you use it, it only goes down to about 13.5km... please explain?

Abusing obstacles like terrain and smoke.

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3 hours ago, Killroy67 said:

And why o why do T8 ships Always fight against T9 and T10 is it realy only because ot the campains? Fights again axis and allies would be nice also .

Because the T10 ships need something to shoot who cant respond with same amount of firepower, caliber or range. Also T8s are need to take caps so the T10 dont even have to move from spawn. This is the lesson WG and others want you to learn, "Tier 10, the art of Passive gameplay".

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so just two tier 8's in a battle with for the rest Tier 9's and Tier 10's  . Its the art of [edited]up a game. Its just well thought over how to make money. Why only campains with T8 , 9, and 10"s ?

 

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4 hours ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

Why dont you want to see spotted ships?

only on the map there you  can relay the location of a spotted ship to your fleet. If the distance is to far to let it show up in the game play other then the map

 

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something loosley concerning this, i've noticed sometimes a ship and me will be coming around an island and sometimes i will be spotted and can't see them and occassionly they are able to fire without retliating.

 

is this something hardware or software related or somekind of on going issue?

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31 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

something loosley concerning this, i've noticed sometimes a ship and me will be coming around an island and sometimes i will be spotted and can't see them and occassionly they are able to fire without retliating.

 

is this something hardware or software related or somekind of on going issue?

hard to be sure without a replay.

most likely answer though? Just you not understanding what's going on.

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2 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

hard to be sure without a replay.

most likely answer though? Just you not understanding what's going on.

uhh thanks i guess?

 

how do you enable replays?

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1 minute ago, CptBarney said:

uhh thanks i guess?

 

how do you enable replays?

either a simple edit in one of the config files, or use one of the modpacks. you can also just ask good ol' Uncle Google for more details :Smile_Default:

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Just now, Tyrendian89 said:

either a simple edit in one of the config files, or use one of the modpacks. you can also just ask good ol' Uncle Google for more details :Smile_Default:

Ok. you seem to be somewhat critical of people asking questions.

 

but thanks anyways.

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36 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

something loosley concerning this, i've noticed sometimes a ship and me will be coming around an island and sometimes i will be spotted and can't see them and occassionly they are able to fire without retliating.

 

is this something hardware or software related or somekind of on going issue?

 

If you are at a high enough tier then they might (rarely) have taken the Target Acquisition module rather than concealment and have a 3km proximity spotting range rather than 2km.

 

They mentioned in the How it Works videos that line of sight works from the masthead of ships, so if you are a low ship and they are a taller one then they might see over the island sooner as the land slopes down.

 

Also there might be a rendering delay, though they've tried to fix that, so you appeared for them sooner despite you both having technically spotted each other at the same time.

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1 minute ago, CptBarney said:

Ok. you seem to be somewhat critical of people asking questions.

 

but thanks anyways.

no, that's exactly the same thing I would have done to get you a more detailed answer: ask google, and copypaste. Sorry, but you can do that yourself...

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1 minute ago, ForlornSailor said:

thank you very much!

1 minute ago, Johmie said:

 

If you are at a high enough tier then they might (rarely) have taken the Target Acquisition module rather than concealment and have a 3km proximity spotting range rather than 2km.

 

They mentioned in the How it Works videos that line of sight works from the masthead of ships, so if you are a low ship and they are a taller one then they might see over the island sooner as the land slopes down.

 

Also there might be a rendering delay, though they've tried to fix that, so you appeared for them sooner despite you both having technically spotted each other at the same time.

Thank you for detailed response sorry for my endless Q's

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1 minute ago, Tyrendian89 said:

no, that's exactly the same thing I would have done to get you a more detailed answer: ask google, and copypaste. Sorry, but you can do that yourself...

The whole point of a community forum is to ask questions and garner advice from more experienced users in a quick and reliable fashion.

 

So i fail to see why you get so critical for using the forum as it is suggested to use. I mean two other users were able to do that. Why can't you?

 

 

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38 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

thank you very much!

Thank you for detailed response sorry for my endless Q's

 

Asking is the best way to get to understand things one doesn't know and your polite tone didn't warrant any hostility.

Unfortunately there are trolls and also ppl who have seen and answered the same question countess times and they might get grumpy.

 

Don't mind them and keep on asking politely and we'll keep answering or in the more complex situations refer you to a page/site that deals with the question

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4 minutes ago, Gleb_Reawer said:

 

Asking is the best way to get to understand things one doesn't know and your polite tone didn't warrant any hostility.

Unfortunately there are trolls and also ppl who have seen and answered the same question countess times and they might get grumpy.

 

Don't mind them and keep on asking politely and we'll keep answering or in the more complex situations refer you to a page/site that deals with the question

guilty as charged, hopefully "just" came off as grumpy... sorry about that :)

 

oh and @CptBarney slight advice from a forum veteran: saying things like

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is this something hardware or software related or somekind of on going issue?

will likely reduce the average quality of the answers you get by a good 50% (I know it did for mine...) because that makes you kinda sound like you blame the game/bugs for what's happening as opposed to asking an open-minded question. Whether that's your intention or not is hard to tell from the get-go (only became clear in the follow-up that it wasnt). And we've had way too many individuals in the past that were agressively crying about some sort of bug or even hack when the issue really was just their own lack of knowledge - hence why I'm more thin-skinned on that particular front than I really should be. That's of course not an excuse for me being grumpy, just a bit of context for you :)

Keep asking questions, and as Gleb said just ignore the less-helpful answers as best you can - if your attitude in asking them stays as it was in here, you'll also get the good and helpful answers you deserve :cap_like:

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You mean concellment? 

 

On a serious note: the spotting system is only self-explanatory, if you are coming from World of Tanks. 

 

WG already did an info video on that one though:

 

 

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