I just uninstalled the game. I hope WG will fix this game for the top 25% of the playerbase.

[Rautainen_Biisoni]

Hello,

 

I've been a veteran of this game since the beginning and while the game has received a lot of good content the game is really not a pleasant experience to play for the top 25% of the players.

We are forced to play with the bots and players far below our own skill level. Not talking about Clan Battles but about normal daily gaming. 

 

I remember playing CoD modern warfare 1 and we had our own server. That game became plagued with hackers. Our server was mostly clean when we could kick out the hackers. It did get really tiresome when on daily basis you were looking for hackers and trying to get rid of them. Same thing happened with CoD MW 2. Hackers ruined the game and players abandoned it.

 

This game is now plagued with bots that we can't get rid of. Only WG can.

Players skill levels are so far apart but we are forced to play together. Add bots to that mess. It's is very unpleasant for many.

You don't see expert chess players playing with 4 year old kids unless its christmas or a family dinner. They try to play with people of their own or higher level.

 

To fix many of these issues I suggested to allow people with high PR to play separate from those of really low PR. Just as an option. Keep the whole playerbase but allow experienced players to play with their own level.

 

I honestly got to take a long break. This weekend was just so horribly unpleasant with the bots and low PR players.

WG, Good job with the content over the years. I hope you guys take care of this gigantic problem.

[loppantorkel]

5 minutes ago, Rautainen_Biisoni said:

Hello,

 

I've been a veteran of this game since the beginning and while the game has received a lot of good content the game is really not a pleasant experience to play for the top 25% of the players.

We are forced to play with the bots and players far below our own skill level. Not talking about Clan Battles but about normal daily gaming. 

 

I remember playing CoD modern warfare 1 and we had our own server. That game became plagued with hackers. Our server was mostly clean when we could kick out the hackers. It did get really tiresome when on daily basis you were looking for hackers and trying to get rid of them. Same thing happened with CoD MW 2. Hackers ruined the game and players abandoned it.

 

This game is now plagued with bots that we can't get rid of. Only WG can.

Players skill levels are so far apart but we are forced to play together. Add bots to that mess. It's is very unpleasant for many.

You don't see expert chess players playing with 4 year old kids unless its christmas or a family dinner. They try to play with people of their own or higher level.

 

To fix many of these issues I suggested to allow people with high PR to play separate from those of really low PR. Just as an option. Keep the whole playerbase but allow experienced players to play with their own level.

 

I honestly got to take a long break. This weekend was just so horribly unpleasant with the bots and low PR players.

WG, Good job with the content over the years. I hope you guys take care of this gigantic problem.

I think you do have a point even if I'm not at the stage of quitting the game. I still enjoy it.

 

I still think the only reasonable solution to the difference in skill in Random games is to divide Random games in 2 - one for more competitive and one for more casual players. You pick yourself what you want to play, but if you're reported enough or doesn't meet a threshold for a set number of games, the competitive Random mode may be unavailable for you for some time.

[iJoby]

You should be grateful lower skilled players have taken the time to want to learn the game and improve, because you, the higher skilled player has given them valuable experience, so that they, one day will be on par with you..

[Animalul2012]

Good for you! the game will become world of destroyers in the future and will become worse than world of tanks.

[principat121]

21 hours ago, Rautainen_Biisoni said:

I honestly got to take a long break.

please, do us all a favour *edited*

thank you, sir

[xxwingerxx]

as a low skilled player and yet to get to lvl 10 i can say its no fun in a 8 being one shoot by all you god max range players that you probablly get board because you just farm lower lvls first so no competition for you  part WG fault for stupid MM

[Srle_Vigilante]

What about "Random" battles is there not to understand.

[bushwacker001]

21 hours ago, Rautainen_Biisoni said:

Hello,

 

I've been a veteran of this game since the beginning and while the game has received a lot of good content the game is really not a pleasant experience to play for the top 25% of the players.

We are forced to play with the bots and players far below our own skill level. Not talking about Clan Battles but about normal daily gaming. 

 

I remember playing CoD modern warfare 1 and we had our own server. That game became plagued with hackers. Our server was mostly clean when we could kick out the hackers. It did get really tiresome when on daily basis you were looking for hackers and trying to get rid of them. Same thing happened with CoD MW 2. Hackers ruined the game and players abandoned it.

 

This game is now plagued with bots that we can't get rid of. Only WG can.

Players skill levels are so far apart but we are forced to play together. Add bots to that mess. It's is very unpleasant for many.

You don't see expert chess players playing with 4 year old kids unless its christmas or a family dinner. They try to play with people of their own or higher level.

 

To fix many of these issues I suggested to allow people with high PR to play separate from those of really low PR. Just as an option. Keep the whole playerbase but allow experienced players to play with their own level.

 

I honestly got to take a long break. This weekend was just so horribly unpleasant with the bots and low PR players.

WG, Good job with the content over the years. I hope you guys take care of this gigantic problem.

*edited*.it's fine when they are on the other team I suppose.  What you forgot to say is that your supreme being stats take a hit when you play solo. 

[thiextar]

I mean, hes not entirely wrong tho, there could be a tickbox  that you can choose to tick once you get better than 50% of the playerbase, which would limit your mm queue to 50% and above. Would probably not have a huge impact on mm time as a whole, probably just slow it down a bit for those who press the tickbox.

 

Would still be worth pressing if you want a slightly higher quality of gameplay.

 

i dont want super bad players or bots on either my or the enemy team, just leads to curb-stomps

[ColonelPete]

55 minutes ago, Rautainen_Biisoni said:

Hello,

 

I've been a veteran of this game since the beginning and while the game has received a lot of good content the game is really not a pleasant experience to play for the top 25% of the players.

We are forced to play with the bots and players far below our own skill level. Not talking about Clan Battles but about normal daily gaming. 

 

I remember playing CoD modern warfare 1 and we had our own server. That game became plagued with hackers. Our server was mostly clean when we could kick out the hackers. It did get really tiresome when on daily basis you were looking for hackers and trying to get rid of them. Same thing happened with CoD MW 2. Hackers ruined the game and players abandoned it.

 

This game is now plagued with bots that we can't get rid of. Only WG can.

Players skill levels are so far apart but we are forced to play together. Add bots to that mess. It's is very unpleasant for many.

You don't see expert chess players playing with 4 year old kids unless its christmas or a family dinner. They try to play with people of their own or higher level.

 

To fix many of these issues I suggested to allow people with high PR to play separate from those of really low PR. Just as an option. Keep the whole playerbase but allow experienced players to play with their own level.

 

I honestly got to take a long break. This weekend was just so horribly unpleasant with the bots and low PR players.

WG, Good job with the content over the years. I hope you guys take care of this gigantic problem.

You got a few bad battles and you whine about it?

Otherwise your WR is going up. Looks like you are winning a lot thanks to these bad players....

[RUSSIANBlAS]

OP demonstrates why it's uncool to complain about the somewhat poor player base.

 

WG will likely cater for the masses so the so called top percentile won't always enjoy the experience.

 

I've quietly ducked out into some WoT of all games...

[ForlornSailor]

So many replies from ppl, that miss the point. I really wonder: have you guys played any other multiplayer-onlinegame before? It doesnt sound like it. You dont seem to know, what private servers are. How it was standard, that a clan pretty much had to rent its own server, where they could play. And you dont seem know, how much better any MMO is, when you play with and against players of your own skilllevel. The last part is actually sad. I pity anyone, that has never had an experiance like this.

[PassTheSalt]

PR, really, that crap metric that doesn't account for spotting or tanking, just damage frags and wins.*edited*

[lafeel]

*edited* like to pretend you guys are the only people that have the right to play this game.

 

Got a newsflash for you, EVERY player does.

[SunSkaRe]

Good players complain they have to play with the "bobs" and its tiring... (so bobs complain how elitist that is and how they have the right to play how they want...)

 

Bad players are matched against good players and complain how the skill gap makes the game unfun... (so by now they would be happy to even play in their own bubble)

 

 

Then there is WG that have the matrix complex of balance where in case too much complexity and skill gap between players they remove any skill base and dumb down everything to pretty lights and smokes.

 

 

WoWs in a nutshell

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

4 hours ago, Rautainen_Biisoni said:

Hello,

 

I've been a veteran of this game since the beginning and while the game has received a lot of good content the game is really not a pleasant experience to play for the top 25% of the players.

We are forced to play with the bots and players far below our own skill level. Not talking about Clan Battles but about normal daily gaming. 

 

I remember playing CoD modern warfare 1 and we had our own server. That game became plagued with hackers. Our server was mostly clean when we could kick out the hackers. It did get really tiresome when on daily basis you were looking for hackers and trying to get rid of them. Same thing happened with CoD MW 2. Hackers ruined the game and players abandoned it.

 

This game is now plagued with bots that we can't get rid of. Only WG can.

Players skill levels are so far apart but we are forced to play together. Add bots to that mess. It's is very unpleasant for many.

You don't see expert chess players playing with 4 year old kids unless its christmas or a family dinner. They try to play with people of their own or higher level.

 

To fix many of these issues I suggested to allow people with high PR to play separate from those of really low PR. Just as an option. Keep the whole playerbase but allow experienced players to play with their own level.

 

I honestly got to take a long break. This weekend was just so horribly unpleasant with the bots and low PR players.

WG, Good job with the content over the years. I hope you guys take care of this gigantic problem.

Buyout WG and relaunch the game yourself, then you can do what you want til then shut up or put up. You are few, we are many. Who are you to dictate anything?

[159Hunter]

19 hours ago, PassTheSalt said:

PR, really, that crap metric that doesn't account for spotting or tanking, just damage frags and wins..*edited*

The current PR rating is indeed not the best metric (though it's better than WR). Adding more data to it could give the player a better idea of his "rating".

But an overall player rating is kinda meh, and @Rautainen_Biisoni I'd like to know how you see this (cause one number is sketchy imo)

• there is the obvious: solo vs division stats, so which one matters?
• would you divide it per class?
• how about a division per (group of) tier(s)?

 

 

19 hours ago, lafeel said:

*edited* like to pretend you guys are the only people that have the right to play this game.

 

Got a newsflash for you, EVERY player does.

And where on earth did OP say that "bad players" are not allowed to play this game?

[Linkaex]

Why don't ya hit up a training room and invite all your top 25% friends?

I highly doubt you have any friends with that attitude tho. 

 

Good luck! 

[lafeel]

18 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

And where on earth did OP say that "bad players" are not allowed to play this game?

He didn't as such, he implied they should basically be treated as second class citizens. Guess what? That's even WORSE.

[ForlornSailor]

16 minutes ago, Linkaex said:

Why don't ya hit up a training room and invite all your top 25% friends?

I highly doubt you have any friends with that attitude tho. 

 

Two things about that. First: That is actually going on. There are people playing 12vs12, clan vs clan, mixed, shenanigans etc. So people absolutly have the attitude for it. And once you experienced, how good the game can be in such an environment, you kinda spoil randoms for yourself.

Now comes the but: The game is build around grinding. You need credits/XP/free XP/Captain XP to advance in lines, gain coal etc - should be obvious. Thats why it simply isnt an option to play mainly Trainingrooms.

[BrettMRC]

Snowflake.

 

The game was not made for just you.

 

*edited*

[159Hunter]

11 minutes ago, lafeel said:

He didn't as such,

So he didn't say that, then why claim it?

11 minutes ago, lafeel said:

he implied they should basically be treated as second class citizens. Guess what? That's even WORSE.

Ok, so on this new claim: where did he say this? All he said is that he wants an option to play the game with people of his choosing. Call it a new gamemode (as we have ranked, clan battles, co op ...) how is that treating someone as second class?

[Arrive_Alive]

If you're bad at this game (talking about <500PR dudes with >2k games) ...you are bad on purpose. By refusing to learn any mechanics and ignoring objectives. And this game has way too many players like this. Don't know where the fun part is when you do 20k on average in a t8+ BB. You don't need godlike reactions or amazing aim in this game, just a functional brain.

 

 

 

 

[Prospect_b]

21 hours ago, Aragathor said:

*edited*

 

21 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

*edited*

 

21 hours ago, principat121 said:

please, do us all a favour *edited*

 

Good player from an old and respectable clan giving up on the game for now. I for one am glad people in his situation make it public with a statement, cause imho a lot of decent players already said "no thanks" to the t(a/u)rd meta and left, but we don't know.

 

Given what kind of big and free attention WG gets from things like KOTS, which is solely by the "elitists", they should better try to give some more care for the "normal" everyday state of the game (i.e. randoms), and make sure those players don't get driven away.

 

 

Followed of course by uplifting comments of that kind of people who for some reason don't like people attacking said t(a/u)rd meta... Yeah what a wonder.

[principat121]

Oh no...

Does someone hurt your feeling?

Didn't you get the attention and affection you think you deserve?

 

What an ungrateful playerbase!

Those shiny unicums made WoWs great again!

But what do they get in return?!

Nothing!

What a shame!