[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #1 Posted October 19, 2018 According to the Dev Blog, CE is getting nerfed for things that are tubbier than DDs (if my memory is correct): Am I correct that this would nerf the concealment of anything fatter than a DD? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted October 19, 2018 Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #3 Posted October 19, 2018 argh... gonna have to relearn all of those concealment values, how annoying... not a bad change for gameplay though I'd say, although it'll certainly hurt some ships (read: many cruisers) more than others (read: many BBs)... 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #4 Posted October 19, 2018 I don't object to this change at all, but I would say that, as I mainly play DDs! I imagine the more emotional BB players are going to have a meltdown though... 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #5 Posted October 19, 2018 Good for the game. Reduces cruiser ability to stealth radar (Belfast, Worchester; partly Mino, Chapayev) Will probably hurt some cruisers - permaspotting Zaos in DDs will be slightly easier without getting floatplaned. BBs are unlikely to care too much apart from Conqueror and maybe Monty. Then again, I preferr stealthy dpm monsters and dds 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #6 Posted October 19, 2018 Another Belfast nerf 1 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,667 battles Report post #7 Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, aboomination said: Another Belfast nerf Technically, no. Is a change in captain skills. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jss78 Players 1,292 posts 12,866 battles Report post #8 Posted October 19, 2018 It's a great change. I remember seeing it proposed multiple times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #9 Posted October 19, 2018 Another Missouri nerf. Where will this end? Does bb life matter no more? 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ANV] Starchy_Tuber Players 867 posts 11,120 battles Report post #10 Posted October 19, 2018 49 minutes ago, Verblonde said: I don't object to this change at all, but I would say that, as I mainly play DDs! I imagine the more emotional BB players are going to have a meltdown though... As an emotional BB player, I don't like it, but I think it is for the best. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #11 Posted October 19, 2018 37 minutes ago, 22cm said: Technically, no. Is a change in captain skills. orly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,326 battles Report post #12 Posted October 19, 2018 From what I have seen the changes will hit several cruisers that are already struggling. The change might be a small 2% but it's still a nerf those ships don't need. I'm happy about the change to BB concealment, even if it makes the Monarch into one of the worst T8 ships. In general having one value for all classes is better than having different values for every class. Exception for Survival Expert, that skill should be percentage based. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Blixies Beta Tester, Players 2,160 posts 6,904 battles Report post #13 Posted October 19, 2018 Looks like BBs are getting nerfed right left and center (concealment, damage on penetration of bulges/auxiliary systems, only overpens vs DDs). As a BB main, I still see the necessity of this and although the life will feel harder, the changes are long needed IMHO. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #14 Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Verblonde said: According to the Dev Blog, CE is getting nerfed for things that are tubbier than DDs (if my memory is correct): Am I correct that this would nerf the concealment of anything fatter than a DD? Lets see if this lands. But I bet as part of it they will 'review' the base CE values of all ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #15 Posted October 19, 2018 Good, it has NEVER made sense that it benefited the largest ships in the game more than the smallest. Inconvenient that learning the new spotting ranges will have to be done, but I see this as a much needed improvement and it's heretical as it's actively a nerf to BB's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OCTO] Zen71_sniper [OCTO] Players 1,268 posts 36,636 battles Report post #16 Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Verblonde said: I don't object to this change at all, but I would say that, as I mainly play DDs! I imagine the more emotional BB players are going to have a meltdown though... Don't they always? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #17 Posted October 19, 2018 Imo CE had to work otherway around. most buff to DDs and least to BBs/CVs. but this is a good change i would say. better than nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] howardxu_23 Players 793 posts 2,080 battles Report post #18 Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Verblonde said: I don't object to this change at all, but I would say that, as I mainly play DDs! I imagine the more emotional BB players are going to have a meltdown though... *looks at stats* right taking the bait WG GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY WHY DID YOU DO THIS I WANT TO SNEAK UP ON SHITCRUSISERS AND DELETE THEM CAUSE CRUSIERS ARE OP AND CE GIVE ME THE ABLITLIY TO GET UP THIER ARSE AND DELETE THEM. Did I do well :D? seriously though, bbs outspotting crusiers is kinda ridiculous right now, I mean it make sense for “crusiers” like Stalingrad and Moskva but not something like conquer vs Des Moines. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #19 Posted October 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said: Imo CE had to work otherway around. most buff to DDs and least to BBs/CVs. but this is a good change i would say. better than nothing. Yup. They could flip the table now and it would be pretty much perfect. I dont like that Cruisers are getting (slightly, but still) nerfed by this. Some cruisers will be impacted more then others. Some already have it hard (coughmoskvacough) and dont need/deserve this at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #20 Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Verblonde said: I don't object to this change at all, but I would say that, as I mainly play DDs! I imagine the more emotional BB players are going to have a meltdown though... As German BBs are kind of my most played line, I don't feel too affected. Secondary spec does not care. Rather, I got buffed, for the competition got nerfed. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #21 Posted October 19, 2018 It's good cruisers finally getting nerfed. I'm so annoyed that they're always the lasts to be alive in games... Massive irony 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,667 battles Report post #22 Posted October 19, 2018 This is still too strange, by the way: tier 4 CV Hosho 6.9 km concealment, tier 4 CL cruiser Poenix 11.2 km... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #23 Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, ghostbuster_ said: Imo CE had to work otherway around. most buff to DDs and least to BBs/CVs. but this is a good change i would say. better than nothing. I agree it was always backwards, but at least this is a step in the right direction. It's past due that they review the base concealment of cruisers and BB's as well, a normal (not massive) cruiser should never be out-spotted by a BB. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SOCKS] RAMJB Players 790 posts 5,620 battles Report post #24 Posted October 19, 2018 It's a change that makes sense. Specially for destroyers that have absolutely no way to know if what they're about to spot is a Worcester. Because if they do, and they happen to be in a headon situation, they're as good as dead. By the time they can turn around they'll already be at half health...if lucky. The change is not that drastic, however, but at least you'll be able to start turning before the blasted thing goes active and everyone and his mother blows you out of the water. Next, radar. What's WG going to do to make those stupid 4 radar per team games go away in high tiers?. Because I'm not touching my higher than T8 destroyers until that nonsense is over... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #25 Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Aragathor said: I'm happy about the change to BB concealment, even if it makes the Monarch into one of the worst T8 ships. How is that thing not already the worst tier 8 BB? IMO it is THE worst BB grind in the game (izumo does not even come close). 1 hour ago, RAMJB said: It's a change that makes sense. Specially for destroyers that have absolutely no way to know if what they're about to spot is a Worcester. Because if they do, and they happen to be in a headon situation, they're as good as dead. By the time they can turn around they'll already be at half health...if lucky. The change is not that drastic, however, but at least you'll be able to start turning before the blasted thing goes active and everyone and his mother blows you out of the water. Next, radar. What's WG going to do to make those stupid 4 radar per team games go away in high tiers?. Because I'm not touching my higher than T8 destroyers until that nonsense is over... No reason not to play TX dds. Usually it is 1-2 radar ships, sometimes 3 and 0. 4+ is extremely rare. I'm having a blast in my YY, Gearing and even Z52 in random battles. Grozovoi with LM is also alot of fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
