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Narai - Weird bug with Manual Secondaries, anyone else seen this?

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Very odd one, I've encountered an issue in Narai with my Scharnhorst which has manual secondaries (I've had manual secondaries for many, many months so I'm well aware how they work).

The first few ships I can target with secondaries and they fire as normal.

After the Nicholas escorting the transport ships trying to escape spawns the ability to select a target for manual secondaries seems to stop completely, no matter what ship i try to target with them, Ctrl Clicking does nothing and since the secondaries are manual they just won't fire at all.

I've tried several Narai runs with the same results.

Testing in Training Room secondaries work as normal.

Testing in COOP and Random, secondaries work as normal.

Restarted client and problem persists, ONLY in Narai and only after a while.

 

Anyone else had the same/similar?

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Did not have that. But my secondaries were not targeting the transports once, but that could have been a weird angle that they could not shoot. Had no time to test it out.

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7 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Did not have that. But my secondaries were not targeting the transports once, but that could have been a weird angle that they could not shoot. Had no time to test it out.

 

I was unable to target any ships at all, no matter where I clicked on the targets, be they transports, or combat ships.

Just tested again in a COOP and my Scharnhorst secondaries worked fine as per normal.

 

It's very odd indeed.

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23 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said:

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Anyone else had the same/similar?

Had this bug many times, both in OPS and Randoms. Happens randomly. But it is limited to only one battle. Bug is gone for whatever reason in the next battle.

There are many bugs like this. Not working Zoom (Shift), being stuck in team composition screen (Tab)...

After a while you get used to those, same as malfunctioning port chat.

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18 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

Do you have a replay?

I do and have re-watched it, you can't see the cursor or attempts to target so there's no point me posting it, just me trying turning secondaries and AA off and on to try and resolve the issue. It was sending me nuts and having tried a second time with the same issue it was really damn annoying. They did work a couple of times, it isn't consistent.

 

@Skyllon yes I've had the issues you mention in the past, but having taken more than 1 run at Narai and the issue appearing the same way and NOT appearing in games in-between or after it's very weird. Happened after a full Client and PC reset too.

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1 minute ago, BeauNidl3 said:

I do and have re-watched it, you can't see the cursor or attempts to target so there's no point me posting it

 

Yea... you are right. I was just thinking about exactly that. Thats really a shame. I still think you should forward that replay to WG with a description of the bug. Maybe it help anyway.

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7 hours ago, BeauNidl3 said:

Very odd one, I've encountered an issue in Narai with my Scharnhorst which has manual secondaries (I've had manual secondaries for many, many months so I'm well aware how they work).

The first few ships I can target with secondaries and they fire as normal.

After the Nicholas escorting the transport ships trying to escape spawns the ability to select a target for manual secondaries seems to stop completely, no matter what ship i try to target with them, Ctrl Clicking does nothing and since the secondaries are manual they just won't fire at all.

I've tried several Narai runs with the same results.

Testing in Training Room secondaries work as normal.

Testing in COOP and Random, secondaries work as normal.

Restarted client and problem persists, ONLY in Narai and only after a while.

 

Anyone else had the same/similar?

I have same problem. 

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Make sure that you are clicking where the hitbox is.

 

Other than that, why post here? Send a ticket to support, we cant help you here, and most will not even care.

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5 hours ago, Juanx said:

Make sure that you are clicking where the hitbox is.

 

Other than that, why post here? Send a ticket to support, we cant help you here, and most will not even care.

 

I've had manual secondaries for a very long time (on more than 1 Captain in fact) I know how to target them, I did explain that in the initial post, as to posting it here I wanted to find out if other people had the same issue in Narai. That's now been established as a yes which is in fact help from the forum users.

Maybe you could suspend acting like a set of female genitalia on the forum for a while, you're a very poor troll.

 

@MrConway it appears at least a few of us are having issues with manual secondaries in the Narai Operation, can you please pass this on to the relevant guys as I'd rather not test in live games where I'm letting down a whole team with a ship build that's not working properly in this Operation.

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I have the same thing sometimes with manual AA. Can't CTRL+klick on squadrons of planes.

I noticed the normal 'fat arrow' cursor then changes to a very narrow up/down arrow.

This fixes itself when you start the next round, happens maybe 1/100 games. 

 

I suspect it is a keyboard issue, as that sometimes 'resets' itself to a different layout.

Where pressing SHIFT+9 gives the "?" instead of "(".

 

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I had the same problems on my Nagato and Nelson (both with upgraded secondaries) the last time Narai was on. Haven't tried with these ships this time.

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Had this bug also a couple of times. Cannot reproduce it exactly. Sometimes it works for the whole game, sometimes it gets "stuck" at some point. Only workaround I have found is to click on the targets on the map (not the mini-map, but the actual big one you open with "M"). Not ideal, but better than lose all that nice firepower.

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It's not only this operation, there are more where you can't target planes with your AA or ships with secondaries. Thought WG will fix it but... yeah.

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7 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

I suspect it is a keyboard issue, as that sometimes 'resets' itself to a different layout.

Where pressing SHIFT+9 gives the "?" instead of "(".

This might have to do with fat fingers.

Pressing ctrl and shift at the same time will change the keyboard language (at least for Dutch keyboards) from US to Dutch. I don't think the letters change, but it will definately change the lay-out of the signs and punctuation and all that other stuff.

 

At least I know I accidentally also press ctrl when I only need shift on occasion, so as I said, I blame fat fingers :cap_book:

 

But none of that is helping the OP :Smile_sad:

 

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10 minutes ago, Bellegar said:

This might have to do with fat fingers.

Pressing ctrl and shift at the same time will change the keyboard language (at least for Dutch keyboards) from US to Dutch. I don't think the letters change, but it will definately change the lay-out of the signs and punctuation and all that other stuff.

 

At least I know I accidentally also press ctrl when I only need shift on occasion, so as I said, I blame fat fingers :cap_book:

 

But none of that is helping the OP :Smile_sad:

 

Definitely not keyboard layout, I only have English installed, but worth a suggestion, it rules it out.

Since I'm very used to manual secondaries I know it's not the wrong key setup and they work fine in other modes with no defects, it's only in Narai I've seen this issue arise.

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3 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said:

Definitely not keyboard layout, I only have English installed, but worth a suggestion, it rules it out.

Since I'm very used to manual secondaries I know it's not the wrong key setup and they work fine in other modes with no defects, it's only in Narai I've seen this issue arise.

I know :Smile_Default:

 

That's why I said none of what I said in my previous post was helping you. I just chimed in to maybe clear up some of Blub's mystery.

 

 

I haven't tried Narai myself yet, so I wouldn't know if I'm having that issue as well. Will try to remember to pay attention when I actually get around to playing the operation

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39 minutes ago, Bellegar said:

This might have to do with fat fingers.

Pressing ctrl and shift at the same time will change the keyboard language (at least for Dutch keyboards) from US to Dutch. I don't think the letters change, but it will definately change the lay-out of the signs and punctuation and all that other stuff.

 

At least I know I accidentally also press ctrl when I only need shift on occasion, so as I said, I blame fat fingers :cap_book:

 

But none of that is helping the OP :Smile_sad:

 

Nope. Not that issue... I have kicked it out, and still does. Might be the same thing after all.

I found though that entering chat and typing something and then exit chat solves it. sometimes.

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45 minutes ago, Bellegar said:

Pressing ctrl and shift at the same time will change the keyboard language

 

You can disable that. Which I have, cuz it happened to me all the time. Im running dual-language on my PC due to work reasons and it was so annoying, that my keyboard language keeps changing all the time.

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14 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

You can disable that. Which I have, cuz it happened to me all the time. Im running dual-language on my PC due to work reasons and it was so annoying, that my keyboard language keeps changing all the time.

You can do it like me, still have two languages, one keyboard layout.

BTW I sometimes have the 'shift bug' as well. When pressing shift, no zoom.

 

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I had complained about Scharnhorst manual secondaries not working in Narai several months ago, sad to see the problem still appears.

You can ctrl+click airplanes, but no any response on the ships. Did not play recently Narai with Scharn, so cant tell if the problem persists for me.

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On 10/13/2018 at 3:01 PM, BeauNidl3 said:

 

I've had manual secondaries for a very long time (on more than 1 Captain in fact) I know how to target them, I did explain that in the initial post, as to posting it here I wanted to find out if other people had the same issue in Narai. That's now been established as a yes which is in fact help from the forum users.

Maybe you could suspend acting like a set of female genitalia on the forum for a while, you're a very poor troll.

 

@MrConway it appears at least a few of us are having issues with manual secondaries in the Narai Operation, can you please pass this on to the relevant guys as I'd rather not test in live games where I'm letting down a whole team with a ship build that's not working properly in this Operation.

 

Please send through a bug report ticket with a replay attached, then we can look into it.

 

You could also send it to me via PM. Make sure to include some screenshots :)

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7 hours ago, MrConway said:

 

Please send through a bug report ticket with a replay attached, then we can look into it.

 

You could also send it to me via PM. Make sure to include some screenshots :)

I'll send the replay, although since the patch I can't play it myself. That being said I'm not sure how much use it would be to you as you can't actually see the cursor or the repeated attempts to target ships for secondaries because of the way the replays work. I can't take screenshots as I can no longer play the replay due to the client update.

Will PM you and thanks for looking into it.

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