This Premium Beta stuff totally wrecked it... an advice for new players.

[Pawndemonium]

Yeah man, you're right, i always wondered what would happen if i shove 4 torps into my ally, u know, for the shits'n giggles.

oh look, my ally is right beside me, let's give him some freedom

 

 

xD

 

also: wawawawa hadn't happen it for 234345 games...

To me it happened twice in a row, and that mattered to me at that moment, end of story .p

 

Seriously, if this thread died in a few minutes like I expected it to be, it would have been at page 18 already and no one would care, but some guys blow this into completely unnecessary proportions. I had bad variance yesterday, I grew over it after 10 minutes, but all those misconceptions from most of you guys lead nowhere, as you whiteknights don't seem to get the idea behind the post - and while I don't blame you for that - you come up with utterly ridiculous arguments (which I totally blame you for).

I'm not a toxic player at all, while I occasionaly tell my team what I think of the current situation I don't insult anyone, I'm not an elitist, I don't intend to mock new or bad players (I just don't care), I just think you're an utter retard when you can't think of the consequences when sending eels from 1-3km ranges at high speed into your teammate's direction (Sims...), this has nothing to do with someone being new.

[BAER_Xyph3r]

Wasn't talking about you,it was in a different game.

But in your case,yeah you deserve that. I fired my torps long before you where anywhere near,if you looked around a bit you would have noticed my torps going by to smack into the enemy ship and kill it....oh wait,you didn't look and just sailed right into my torps,you had plenty of time to change course slightly or slow down a bit,you just refused to because you wanted a kill that badly.

 

as i said in my first post, it was not me you killed, it was my divisionmate, Gnarf_der_hoehlentroll that ran into your torps. and it was one of his first games. so first of all: learn to read. secondly. omg n00b l2torp plz. 

 and at last, you can kindly go torp yourself m8ey. 

 

[tajj7]

er who cares? 

 

It's closed beta, we all get wipes, progress gets wiped, no stats, no win rates etc

 

The exact sort of time to just play care free, see what works and get used to the game. 

[Coenraad]

Try navyfield 2, dodging friendly torps is very common. Compared to that it is not that bad.

[Maj_Havoc]

 

xD

 

also: wawawawa hadn't happen it for 234345 games...

To me it happened twice in a row, and that mattered to me at that moment, end of story .p

 

Seriously, if this thread died in a few minutes like I expected it to be, it would have been at page 18 already and no one would care, but some guys blow this into completely unnecessary proportions. I had bad variance yesterday, I grew over it after 10 minutes, but all those misconceptions from most of you guys lead nowhere, as you whiteknights don't seem to get the idea behind the post - and while I don't blame you for that - you come up with utterly ridiculous arguments (which I totally blame you for).

I'm not a toxic player at all, while I occasionaly tell my team what I think of the current situation I don't insult anyone, I'm not an elitist, I don't intend to mock new or bad players (I just don't care), I just think you're an utter retard when you can't think of the consequences when sending eels from 1-3km ranges at high speed into your teammate's direction (Sims...), this has nothing to do with someone being new.

Then go back and edit your op to reflect that, let everyone know you were blowing off steam and be done with it. However, you should also take away a life lesson that ranting in the forums after a loss is not the smartest move; walk away, calm down, and if you think you still have a valid point, return and make it with a clear head. Oh and dropping the use of language such as "retard" would go a long way to changing the way others perceive your posts and react to them, language like that belongs in the school playground not in a forum post you want taken seriously.

[Hanszeehock]

Then go back and edit your op to reflect that, let everyone know you were blowing off steam and be done with it. However, you should also take away a life lesson that ranting in the forums after a loss is not the smartest move; walk away, calm down, and if you think you still have a valid point, return and make it with a clear head. Oh and dropping the use of language such as "retard" would go a long way to changing the way others perceive your posts and react to them, language like that belongs in the school playground not in a forum post you want taken seriously.

 

+1

[LazyVegetable]

 

this post gave me the toppest of keks

3km is a long way but since torps are fast, those 3km are gone i a few seconds, yes it's also his fault for not looking around enough, but it's your fault aswell since you should fire your torps so that there's more or less no chance of hitting an ally, if u see an enemy who is turning a way that if u shoot an ally might get there, you just don't shoot, u change position and try again don't just shoot them and hope for the best and then killing an ally and be sorry, that just doesn't cut it...

also, looking at that makes me wonder about trolls, so you can fire torps at your ally and hit him/kill him and say sorry or don't get in my way. Tnx man, best trolling method i've seen in a while 10/10, gonna make a smurf for this

You can tell me about that all you want,but regardless,if i see an enemy at high hp and i have a chance to torpedo him,be damn sure i will take it,i always look around before i fire(well now i do anyway) it's been too many times i turn sideways to torp a guy and oh look....ally sails right infront of me so i cant fire so he can hog all the damage and possibly the kill,that's no way to play now is it?

From what i've seen players in this game love to get in your way so you cant shoot,even if you tell them about it they just won't care,my intention isnt to hit an ally with torps,but by god if i see a friendly coming to block me because he wants damage and kills,i will fire torpedoes before he gets there so he has to make a choice,keep coming in my direction to block me and eat half of my torpedoes if not all,or actually play as a proper team mate to kill the enemy as fast as possible.

 

And yeah there are trolls that do this,yesterday i had to dodge about...30+ torpedoes,all from allies,the sad part is that he was doing it intentionally,even when there were no enemies around he would still fire in my direction just to get me to change course away from the enemy.

[Lile]

 

+1

 

Nope.

 

+2

[Pawndemonium]

Then go back and edit your op to reflect that, let everyone know you were blowing off steam and be done with it. However, you should also take away a life lesson that ranting in the forums after a loss is not the smartest move; walk away, calm down, and if you think you still have a valid point, return and make it with a clear head. Oh and dropping the use of language such as "retard" would go a long way to changing the way others perceive your posts and react to them, language like that belongs in the school playground not in a forum post you want taken seriously.

 

The initial post was obviously a short fused reaction, it clearly reads like that, the following "discussion" revolved around something completely different. I don't care enough to edit this out, I'm not here to farm honour or be taken seriously.

[NecroFlex]

You can tell me about that all you want,but regardless,if i see an enemy at high hp and i have a chance to torpedo him,be damn sure i will take it,i always look around before i fire(well now i do anyway) it's been too many times i turn sideways to torp a guy and oh look....ally sails right infront of me so i cant fire so he can hog all the damage and possibly the kill,that's no way to play now is it?

From what i've seen players in this game love to get in your way so you cant shoot,even if you tell them about it they just won't care,my intention isnt to hit an ally with torps,but by god if i see a friendly coming to block me because he wants damage and kills,i will fire torpedoes before he gets there so he has to make a choice,keep coming in my direction to block me and eat half of my torpedoes if not all,or actually play as a proper team mate to kill the enemy as fast as possible.

 

if u see a chance, ofc take it, but like i said before, predict where the torps will go if they miss and where any ally will be, that can be done while you align torps

i know what u mean by facehuggers, tho it happened only once to me, i shot my salvo but only saw 2 shots fly to the enemy, then i see an ally is right next to me preventing me to shoot the enemy, well then (btw i was a St. Louise) while i was slowing down to 3/4 of my speed i was still shooting the enemy and shells still hit the ally that was facehugging and i think they hit his citadel, after that i got behind enough to be able to shoot and the facehugger was low on hp and enemy was 1 salvo away from death...well..i waited for my ally to get destroyed and then killed the enemy ^^ (karma's a [edited])

And yeah there are trolls that do this,yesterday i had to dodge about...30+ torpedoes,all from allies,the sad part is that he was doing it intentionally,even when there were no enemies around he would still fire in my direction just to get me to change course away from the enemy.

Dodging level increased by +5

Rage meter increased by +9000

''WG pls'' meter increased by +50

WG f**ks given decreased by -50

[Hanszeehock]

 I'm not here to farm honour or be taken seriously.

 

Sounds like your forum epitaph 

[Xevious_Red]

Most new players midjudge turning circles, so you get lots of collisions/ships stuck together.

 

Given that this stops happening around about tier 4, you can either put it down to people being a bit of a hinderence because they're new, and do your best to extract yourself/slow down so that oblivious players sail past you rather than into you, or you can assume that every player is deliverately attempting to block you and steal your kills.

[Pawndemonium]

 

Sounds like your forum epitaph 

 

No idea, quite experienced in cheating death. .p

[Capt_B_Willard]

Löwe

 

 

Who cares its a Beta game......

GAME

Like as if your strategies are so briljant mister Pawnshop........

Like in WOT  take advantage of inexperienced players and try to learn them something and learn from them....... because in a game there are bounderies but NO RULES

 

[Nounours_FFA]

TK is bad in beta stage as in normal game, however it's far better to have it at this stage than in normal game. It teaches us to be cautious when the beta will open.

 

And as someone said, the beta stage is for people testing the game and trying dumb things to find bugs, so maybe these team killers where checking if the autoban system worked

[HowlinWulf]

This is why I purchased the tier IV Yubari to enter the CBT and then played bots.  I'll start working up my tier I ships tonight.  It makes no sense to jump into higher tiers until ready to do so.

[Loonsbro]

Speaking as someone that has just bought the tier IV premium Japanese package (so that i could get access to the Beta ),

 

Can sort of understand some of the OP's point of view but the problem of Premium ships is the same as it is in WoT that inexperienced players can be out of there depth if they jump straight in at a level that is to high for them when they have not taken the time to learn the basic's. Played for the first time last night and have not used the shinny new tier IV ship in port as i want to understand how to control my ship, aim properly, shot at and hit stuff...the list of things is not quite endless but is quite long. Once i have a grasp on this i will then take the nice shiny premium out for a spin.

 

Where the OP is wrong and in my opinion out of order is with the "premium beta stuff has totally wrecked it". The game is in Beta and therefore still being tested, if your enjoyment is being spoilt by all these new players that can pay to get in to the Beta test, then quit now because it is only going to get worse when the game goes live. Or are you saying that the Beta should only be open to a few elite players (you clearly include yourself in this group of super elite players) that are so good at everything that you are able to test all aspects of the game and report all bugs and glitches so the game will be bug free on release?  

 

The more people that do stupid things during beta test the better as then any issues that they find can be fixed prior to the game going live, and although the code will have been tested by the dev team (ok yes this is WG we are talking about and sure the "working as intended" phrase will start to be rolled out soon) there is no way they will have thought to test every stupid combination of circumstances that the average player will manage to get themselves into.  

[Pawndemonium]

That's actually a good point. Is it possible to even enter Random Battles the second you create an account? Isn't it necessary to play Coop at first to reach account level 2?

Just bringing it up, as this would make it even more ridiculous to assume that new players don't know what torpedoes might do (which is briljant strgeties ofc).

[Capt_B_Willard]

Why do people have to behave the way you want them to ?

 

[Pawndemonium]

Because of briljant stetagies.

 

edit: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/10791-people-to-ban-in-cas-of-space-shortage/

 

what the... I don't even... xD

[Capt_B_Willard]

Well, euhh that said...... LOL

 

 

[TheGreatSunJester]

That's actually a good point. Is it possible to even enter Random Battles the second you create an account? Isn't it necessary to play Coop at first to reach account level 2?

Just bringing it up, as this would make it even more ridiculous to assume that new players don't know what torpedoes might do (which is briljant strgeties ofc).

 

It only takes like 3-4 good battle to get to level 2 though.

[GrumpyWorm]

and here we start again with people taking this too seriously and shoving that elitist crap all over again.. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to learn your way in this game. I started with my tier 7 premium and did well. I just watched some gameplay before.

 

Stop being so elitist and let people play this game. It's a beta, that's what beta's are for. It's the time where people try all sort of strategies , some bad some good. Let them have it.

 

Im sorry but mine understanding is that CBt is actually for gathering constructive data, not for playing. That is why is everything deleted at the end.

 

If tester is about to give some feedback, he must have considerable knowledge about game mechanics and game lore in general.

That is not called being elitist.  It is called giving usable data back and doing your job as tester - not preventing others in trying to do the same by having absolutely no idea what is going on in battle and then coming back to forum with "Nerf everything  - they killed me" type of posts.

 

If you are here just for your own fun - then maybe you stepped into whole wows project too early.

[NatteFrost]

I remember when we were all beginners and throw torpedoes everywhere. How about letting these new players learn the basics before you start to wreak havoc on the forum?

 

it is called tier 2 and 3 for that.

 

now i have only been here for 1 day, but i can see this game makes the exact same error that WoT did: sell prem ships above t5 whitout any sort of battle requirement.

i dont mind t6-t8 prems but there MUST be a requirement of a set numbers of battles played for t6-8, cuz when you get to t6 you are hitting the mark where to be a rookie is a big liability for the team.

and handing out top tier ships to players who has never played a single battle is bad. just look at the kv5/lowe in wot for definitive proof of that.

 

only thing missing now is the first 5x event and we have WoT all over again...

[Eisenengel]

My division mate was hunted by a 'friendly' DD today. It kept firing torps after him - even away from the enemy line. I do think it's necessary to cause some negative consequence for teamkilling with torps soonish, certainly before release. 

 

As another observation, at tier VII you're starting to get into negative income territory with bad matches, cauing FF with torps to be a bit worse than the 'yolo' tiers.