[KRONA] Bjorn_Nordin [KRONA] Players 11 posts 8,334 battles Report post #1 Posted October 5, 2018 Hello! I´ve just bought the premium DD Cossack and before my purchase i have looked in to some Youtube vids on the ship, and it looked alright. But when i went in my first game, i noticed that my detection range was as high as 6.1km. And that is with the permanent camo and also captain camo skill on top. In one of the videos i noticed that it had a detection range of 5.5km? So before i send a ticket to support, what is the actual value for you commanders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 28,818 posts 15,115 battles Report post #2 Posted October 5, 2018 Are you missing the upgrade? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KRONA] Bjorn_Nordin [KRONA] Players 11 posts 8,334 battles Report post #3 Posted October 5, 2018 1 minute ago, ColonelPete said: Are you missing the upgrade? Sorry, the upgrade? I must be tired or something YES! I am tired, lol It was the upgrade ofc :-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 28,818 posts 15,115 battles Report post #4 Posted October 5, 2018 Concealment Modification 1 in the fifth slot you get on Tier VIII. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SERBS] _DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,553 posts 9,375 battles Report post #5 Posted October 6, 2018 lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZEN] Midway67 Players 142 posts 26,032 battles Report post #6 Posted October 10, 2018 Interesting to hear. Now with the upgrade, is your detection indeed down to 5.5 km? That's really quite stealthy for a tier 8 destroyer! (*) Is the special British permanent camouflage also available as separate purchase, once you have the (basic package) Cossack? (I don't mean the regular premium camo, but the one that comes separately, e.g. with the larger bundles) And what does that British camo look like on her? Thanks for letting me know! (*) Based on WoWs-wikipedia data, I've done a quick comparison. Cossack actually stars as the very best in this! Detection values (in brackets: with 10% reduction) of the other Tier 8 DD's, from low to high: Cossack 6.10 (5.49 -- strange, wiki says she has 6.97? Or should we take Concealment Expert Captain's skill into account for this, additionally?) Haida 6.49 (5.84) Asashio 6.84 (6.16) HSF Harekaze 6.84 (6.16) Kagero 6.84 (6.16) Lightning 7.02 (6.32) Benson 7.38 (6.64) Hsienyang 7.38 (6.64) Kidd 7.38 (6.64) Ognevoi 7.74 (6.97) Akizuki 7.76 (6.98) Z-23 -- 7.92 (7.13) Kiev 9.00 (8.10) Le Terrible 9.10 (8.19) (!!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,012 posts 29,145 battles Report post #7 Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Midway67 said: Cossack 6.10 (5.49 -- strange, wiki says she has 6.97? Or should we take Concealment Expert Captain's skill into account for this, additionally?) 6.97km is without Captain CE and Camo. 1 hour ago, Midway67 said: Haida 6.49 (5.84) Haida is T7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KRONA] Bjorn_Nordin [KRONA] Players 11 posts 8,334 battles Report post #8 Posted October 10, 2018 I bought the basic ship, with the Type 10 permanent camo, it came included with the purchase and you also have an option to buy another camo ( Royal Navy- Cossack ) för 2000 doubloons. It´s almost identical and are the same values as the one included. Edit: And i now have the 5.5km detection range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKAS] stinkmorchel Beta Tester 2,315 posts 6,719 battles Report post #9 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 11:27 AM, Midway67 said: Interesting to hear. Now with the upgrade, is your detection indeed down to 5.5 km? That's really quite stealthy for a tier 8 destroyer! (*) Is the special British permanent camouflage also available as separate purchase, once you have the (basic package) Cossack? (I don't mean the regular premium camo, but the one that comes separately, e.g. with the larger bundles) And what does that British camo look like on her? Thanks for letting me know! (*) Based on WoWs-wikipedia data, I've done a quick comparison. Cossack actually stars as the very best in this! Detection values (in brackets: with 10% reduction) of the other Tier 8 DD's, from low to high: Cossack 6.10 (5.49 -- strange, wiki says she has 6.97? Or should we take Concealment Expert Captain's skill into account for this, additionally?) Haida 6.49 (5.84) Asashio 6.84 (6.16) HSF Harekaze 6.84 (6.16) Kagero 6.84 (6.16) Lightning 7.02 (6.32) Benson 7.38 (6.64) Hsienyang 7.38 (6.64) Kidd 7.38 (6.64) Ognevoi 7.74 (6.97) Akizuki 7.76 (6.98) Z-23 -- 7.92 (7.13) Kiev 9.00 (8.10) Le Terrible 9.10 (8.19) (!!) the Cossack is simpley the second best in concealment on its Tier. only the Kagero and its "clones" (Hatsu, Asa) beat it with their 5,4km. and because of that the Cossack is still very good even in T10 matches IMHO. i love this boat ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SERBS] _DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,553 posts 9,375 battles Report post #10 Posted October 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, stinkmorchel said: the Cossack is simpley the second best in concealment on its Tier. only the Kagero and its "clones" (Hatsu, Asa) beat it with their 5,4km. and because of that the Cossack is still very good even in T10 matches IMHO. i love this boat ! Lightning also has 5.5 km concealment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[C-G-G] CaptainObvious79 Players 29 posts Report post #11 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 1:08 PM, fumtu said: 6.97km is without Captain CE and Camo. Haida is T7. And does not have access to the Concealment update. The Detection range of Le Terrible is better than stated in the list (not impressive, but alright). I think they changed the values somewhat.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,012 posts 29,145 battles Report post #12 Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Lamaking said: The Detection range of Le Terrible is better than stated in the list (not impressive, but alright). I think they changed the values somewhat.. This is pre-buff value. Released version has better concealment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MRGTB ∞ Players 1,270 posts Report post #13 Posted December 19, 2018 You have concealment listed as this for: Asashio 6.84 (6.16) I have the B version with black camo and have it down to 5.4 with concealment module and 4 point skill used. On 10/10/2018 at 10:27 AM, Midway67 said: Interesting to hear. Now with the upgrade, is your detection indeed down to 5.5 km? That's really quite stealthy for a tier 8 destroyer! (*) Is the special British permanent camouflage also available as separate purchase, once you have the (basic package) Cossack? (I don't mean the regular premium camo, but the one that comes separately, e.g. with the larger bundles) And what does that British camo look like on her? Thanks for letting me know! (*) Based on WoWs-wikipedia data, I've done a quick comparison. Cossack actually stars as the very best in this! Detection values (in brackets: with 10% reduction) of the other Tier 8 DD's, from low to high: Cossack 6.10 (5.49 -- strange, wiki says she has 6.97? Or should we take Concealment Expert Captain's skill into account for this, additionally?) Haida 6.49 (5.84) Asashio 6.84 (6.16) HSF Harekaze 6.84 (6.16) Kagero 6.84 (6.16) Lightning 7.02 (6.32) Benson 7.38 (6.64) Hsienyang 7.38 (6.64) Kidd 7.38 (6.64) Ognevoi 7.74 (6.97) Akizuki 7.76 (6.98) Z-23 -- 7.92 (7.13) Kiev 9.00 (8.10) Le Terrible 9.10 (8.19) (!!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
