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IJN T9 Light Cruiser - Kano Class

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Kano class Light Cruiser by Tzoli

 

 

Armament:
      12 - 6,10" / 155 mm 60,0 cal guns - 123,17lbs / 55,87kg shells, 150 per gun
      Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1930 Model
      4 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, evenly spread
        2 raised mounts
      12 - 3,94" / 100 mm 65,0 cal guns - 28,66lbs / 13,00kg shells, 250 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1938 Model
      6 x Twin mounts on side ends, majority forward
      24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 2,20lbs / 1,00kg shells, 1 500 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1945 Model
      10 x Twin mounts layout not set
        2 raised mounts
      2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
        1 raised mount
      38 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 0,55lbs / 0,25kg shells, 2 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1936 Model
      10 x Triple mounts on side ends, majority aft
        4 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1 896 lbs / 860 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      16 - 24,0" / 610 mm, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m torpedoes - 2,496 t each, 39,935 t total
    In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

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Nice - but fictional.

 

Got my upvote but I would prefer an Agano for T6 to be honest.

 

Or “Kumano” for T8 

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Could work, but its more or less just Mogami with one less turret and beefed up AA... Armor profile is probably better but idk.

 

Pretty cool tho

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3 hours ago, Affeks said:

Could work, but its more or less just Mogami with one less turret and beefed up AA... Armor profile is probably better but idk.

 

Pretty cool tho

 

+ possible Atago torpedo angles.

 

Just improve the reload of the 155mm and this ship could do really well.

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Well, just tinkered with the picture a bit for a proposed T10 IJN light cruiser (Kano was based on 14000 tons according to information) 

This super Kano would be approximately 22000 tons with twice the powerplant and a slimmer hull so probably about 36 knts 

7 triple turrets of 155mm guns, 12 twin 100mm mounts (6 each side) 19 twin 40mm mounts and 44 triple 25mm mounts 

Twice the torpedo armament 

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10 minutes ago, Captn_Crap said:

Are those the same 155mm as Mogami's or an improved version?

I mean, how would you improve the shells of the Mogami? Those guns are pretty strong as it is. I'd dislike WG going in the way of just making the super-Mogamis just Japanese Worcesters. I'd think It'll be really cool to have the Japanese light cruisers be the ships with poor (for a light cruiser) reload but the heaviest broadside density in the game. Imagine the tier 10 Mogami with the 16 guns of the Lyon and cruiser dispersion :cap_rambo:

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5 minutes ago, Captn_Crap said:

Are those the same 155mm as Mogami's or an improved version?

There was not an improved version, however, we could call it the improved version and increase the rate of fire by 1 rpm, however, historically Mogami could put out 5 rounds per minute with a shell weight of 123.2lb or a broadside weight per minute of 9240lb and the hull above with the same guns as Mogami would throw per minute 12936lb or with the improved guns 15523.2lbs

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3 minutes ago, dasCKD said:

I mean, how would you improve the shells of the Mogami? Those guns are pretty strong as it is.

Thats true they are pretty strong with IFHE. Whats interesting is that IFHE would be even more useful than on Mogami as the 100mm would benefit greatly too as long as the Secondary range is sufficient.

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2 minutes ago, Captn_Crap said:

Thats true they are pretty strong with IFHE. Whats interesting is that IFHE would be even more useful than on Mogami as the 100mm would benefit greatly too as long as the Secondary range is sufficient.

It would be very circumstantial but it certainly could come into play. I mean, arguably the Japanese already have a light cruiser line and it's one of the strongest tier X cruisers in the game right now.

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1 minute ago, dasCKD said:

It would be very circumstantial but it certainly could come into play. I mean, arguably the Japanese already have a light cruiser line and it's one of the strongest tier X cruisers in the game right now.

There is a japanese Cl line?

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1 minute ago, Captn_Crap said:

There is a japanese Cl line?

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Basically a light cruiser.

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6 minutes ago, dasCKD said:

It would be very circumstantial but it certainly could come into play. I mean, arguably the Japanese already have a light cruiser line and it's one of the strongest tier X cruisers in the game right now.

The Zao is not a light cruiser but a heavy cruiser with 203mm main guns 

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Just now, pzkpfwv1d said:

The Zao is not a light cruiser but a heavy cruiser with 203mm main guns 

I wasn't talking about the Zao.

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Harugumo is a destroyer with 100mm guns, basically the IJN light cruiser line ends at T4 apart from the Mogami (which had two versions in real life), every other IJN cruiser has 203mm main armament, therefore the IJN line is suffering from a lack of reliable light cruisers 

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Just now, pzkpfwv1d said:

Harugumo is a destroyer with 100mm guns, basically the IJN light cruiser line ends at T4 apart from the Mogami (which had two versions in real life), every other IJN cruiser has 203mm main armament, therefore the IJN line is suffering from a lack of reliable light cruisers 

The Harugumo has penetration parity with the other light cruisers in the game. She is functionally a light cruiser in all but armor.

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Harugumo is a destroyer and not a light cruiser, the guns might be quite powerful for a destroyer but they are not cruiser guns 

 

Agano would fit at either T5 or T6 as an IJN light cruiser 

Japanese cruiser Agano.jpg
Agano in October 1942, off of Sasebo, Nagasaki
Class overview
Name: Agano class
Builders: Sasebo Naval Arsenal, Yokosuka Naval Arsenal
Operators: 23px-Naval_ensign_of_the_Empire_of_Japan Imperial Japanese Navy
Preceded by: Sendai class
Succeeded by: Ōyodo class
Completed: 4
Lost: 3
General characteristics
Type: Light cruiser
Displacement: 6,652 t (6,547 long tons) (standard); 7,590 t (7,470 long tons) (loaded)
Length: 174 m (571 ft)
Beam: 15.2 m (50 ft)
Draught: 5.6 m (18 ft)
Propulsion:
  • 4 shaft Gihon geared turbines
  • 6 Kampon boilers
  • 100,000 shp (75,000 kW)
Speed: 35 knots (65 km/h; 40 mph)
Range: 8,000 nautical miles (15,000 km) at 18 knots (33 km/h)
Complement: 730[1]
Armament:
Armour:
  • Machinery belt: 60 mm (2.4 in)
  • Magazine belt: 55 mm (2.2 in)
  • Armoured deck: 20 mm (0.8 in)
  • Forward armoured bulkheads: 25 mm (1.0 in) to 20 mm (0.8 in)
  • Rear armoured bulkheads: 20 mm (0.8 in)
Aircraft carried: 2 × floatplanes
Aviation facilities: 1 aircraft catapult

The four Agano-class cruisers (阿賀野型軽巡洋艦 Agano-gata keijun'yōkan) were light cruisers operated by the Imperial Japanese Navy.[2] All were named after Japanese rivers. Larger than previous Japanese light cruisers, the Agano-class vessels were fast, but with little protection, and were under-gunned for their size (albeit with a powerful offensive torpedo armament, able to launch up to eight Type 93 "Long Lance" torpedoes in a salvo). They participated in numerous actions during World War II.

Oyodo would then be eighter T6 or T7

OyodoJun43.jpg
Ōyodo in 1943 at Kure Naval Arsenal, Hiroshima
Class overview
Operators: 23px-Naval_ensign_of_the_Empire_of_Japan Imperial Japanese Navy
Preceded by: Agano class
Built: 1941–1943
In service: 1943–1945
In commission: 1943–1945
Planned: 2
Completed: 1
Lost: 1
History
42px-Naval_ensign_of_the_Empire_of_JapanEmpire of Japan
Name: Ōyodo
Namesake: Ōyodo River
Ordered: 1939
Builder: Kure Naval Arsenal
Laid down: 14 February 1941
Launched: 2 April 1942
Commissioned: 28 February 1943
Struck: 20 November 1945
Fate: Sunk by aircraft, 28 July 1945
General characteristics (as built)
Type: Light cruiser
Displacement:
Length: 192 m (629 ft 11 in)
Beam: 15.7 m (51 ft 6 in)
Draught: 5.95 m (19 ft 6 in)
Installed power:
Propulsion: 4 shafts; 4 geared steam turbine sets,
Speed: 35 knots (65 km/h; 40 mph)
Range: 10,600 nmi (19,600 km; 12,200 mi) at 18 knots (33 km/h; 21 mph)
Complement: 782
Armament:
Armor:
Aircraft carried: 6 × floatplanes
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12 minutes ago, dasCKD said:

The Harugumo has penetration parity with the other light cruisers in the game. She is functionally a light cruiser in all but armor.

Repair party? hp pool?

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8 minutes ago, pzkpfwv1d said:

Harugumo is a destroyer and not a light cruiser, the guns might be quite powerful for a destroyer but they are not cruiser guns 

Those guns would be powerful on a cruiser. The only thing she lacks is AP penetration which is a weakness she shares with the Worcester. It's like saying that the Stalingrad isn't a battleship. She is a battleship in all but name.

4 minutes ago, Riselotte said:

Repair party? hp pool?

HP pool is keyed off the ship tonnage anyways. Her HP pool is the result of her being a small ship. The repair party is also something that the Mogami doesn't have. It may be typical for a tier 10 cruiser to run with repair parties, but it doesn't preclude it. The minutia is irrelevant regardless. The Harugumo performs the task of a highly stealthy DPM monster with enough HE penetration to equal a light cruiser. A Japanese light cruiser line will, in all likelihood, be irrelevant in the face of the Harugumo. She functions, in all intents and purposes, as a small tier 10 Japanese light cruiser. Whilst the Kano looks really cool, she'll likely be given a better RoF to compensate for her inferior gun density which means that she fulfills no function that the Harugumo does not.

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31 minutes ago, dasCKD said:

HP pool is keyed off the ship tonnage anyways. Her HP pool is the result of her being a small ship. The repair party is also something that the Mogami doesn't have. It may be typical for a tier 10 cruiser to run with repair parties, but it doesn't preclude it. The minutia is irrelevant regardless. The Harugumo performs the task of a highly stealthy DPM monster with enough HE penetration to equal a light cruiser. A Japanese light cruiser line will, in all likelihood, be irrelevant in the face of the Harugumo. She functions, in all intents and purposes, as a small tier 10 Japanese light cruiser. Whilst the Kano looks really cool, she'll likely be given a better RoF to compensate for her inferior gun density which means that she fulfills no function that the Harugumo does not.

Harugumo is a cruiser only in dpm. and maybe speed. She is not a cruiser in consumable loadout or survivability really. Graf Spee also has battleship guns, but you wouldn't call it a battleship, even if it arguably at least has repair party and a larger hp pool than most T6 cruisers. Similarly, Harugumo is a long ways away from Worcester or Minotaur.

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