Shepbur Alpha Tester 1,545 posts 469 battles Report post #51 Posted April 15, 2015 http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/9556-where-are-the-developers/page__pid__161983#entry161983 Shepbur's two posts here are what I refer to, though my conclusion isn't there in writing. Draw your own as you see fit. Hello, you appear to have grabbed the wrong end of my stick from that post... What i was explaining was that the GAME developers, are generally not that active (although there's the odd appearance now and then) on non-RU speaking forums, because they mostly speak russian and are not great at speaking or understanding english all that well. What that doesn't mean is that they're not hearing our feedback. As i said in that post, the EU community team regularly collate feedback and opinions from the forums and pass them onto the russian developers. And there's even bits and bobs being sorted out to make that process easier for them to hear our feedback from the EU server. What this doesn't mean however, is that the game developers have any influence over in-game offers and packages. Those are set purely by wargaming. Additionally, WGNA, WGEU, WGRU and WGSA are all pretty independant of one another and have their own ways of running things. While they're still all under the same WG name and so offer similar events and packages, it means that their contents may change a little. However it was explained and stated by Tuccy that if you added on the price of the extra gold/ premium the NA server gets with their package, to the cost of ours (which is lower) then it would be about the same. Also... for anyone using my posts as a reference in future conclusions... Please remember that i'm not a WG employee, i have next to no influence over what they plan to do with the game, and whats more is that they have next to no influence over what i say or do in the forums. I do my best to share whatever information i feel is necessary for the forum community to hear, however a large portion of it is brought about through my own opinions and ideas. This means that whatever i say in my random posts here and there in threads (unless i state otherwise) is probably not a solid fact that you could build a house on. The reason why i add my own opinions and ideas (gathered mostly from common sense and knowledge about the company/games i've learnt so far) is to try and make sense of the information i am given by WG. I don't want people getting the wrong impression and either getting either a) overexcited only to be let down, or b) feel unsupported when actually there's alot of work being done behind the scenes for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RATM] Tick0r Alpha Tester 24 posts 12,997 battles Report post #52 Posted April 15, 2015 I wouldn't get too upset about what happens in other communities. Yes NA has the slots and longer play time on Space Battles, but I know that all the NA beta testers are beaten at the weekends by WG employee's with Oars. I think I prefer our more relaxed EU WG staff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islacrusez Beta Tester 375 posts 920 battles Report post #53 Posted April 15, 2015 Hello, you appear to have grabbed the wrong end of my stick from that post... Apologies, then, for my erroneous conclusion. However the feeling I left that topic with was that our feedback isn't particularly valuable. Incidentally, no WG staff of any kind ever replied to the topic, did they? It also does highlight very clearly one issue that you have there - you have people like me, making a post with perhaps a feature overhaul, and if I'm lucky a person like you will find the post relevant and pass it on to the WG team, who then interpret your collated data and may or may not fully understand what you're telling them let alone what was originally posted, and then they filter out and collate the data they pass along to the development team, who then interpret that and act upon it. It's a long chain of humans making decisions and interpreting what they're looking at, and there's a lot of chance for getting things wrong. Regardless, with this cleared up it is no longer relevant to this topic. Thank you for making an appearance and explaining matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
croshad Beta Tester 20 posts 9 battles Report post #54 Posted April 16, 2015 I wouldn't get too upset about what happens in other communities. Yes NA has the slots and longer play time on Space Battles, but I know that all the NA beta testers are beaten at the weekends by WG employee's with Oars. I think I prefer our more relaxed EU WG staff. Your last sentence actually paints a very nice picture. People realize there are different offices and every one of those got it's own thing. And it's perfectly fine if office A has this promo and office B has something else, hell variety is always good. It's just that the EU part of wargaming feels "relaxed" as hell. I follow the NA and to some extent RU and i don't think there's any doubt how much effort through promos, special offerings and small things like this they put in, that seem too much for EU to follow. Not to mention social media participation, everything they do seems recycled from another office at best and some things only came after a public outcry. Or look how they handle Warpack, a mod for WoT that even it's makers call a cheat. We can't know why that is so, maybe they are understaffed, maybe the language and cultural barriers between offices in Europe pose to much of an obstacle but being their biggest source of income over here, you'd expect they'd put more effort in resolving it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Losqualo Beta Tester 92 posts 12,868 battles Report post #55 Posted April 16, 2015 ...And to be honest: You need more slots, I only have ships in my port i actually enjoy to play. I'd love to play a different line, but selling a ship I enjoy for that? I just feel ripped off by WG, if I pay for every additional slot, and my friend next door, just because he got into NA-beta, gets five of them for free...yeah, scumbag me for feeling like that, I know Maybe you should have reminded yourself about the fact that a CBT isn't so much about enjoyment but about testing the game. If you enjoy the test, fine, but that's not what a CBT ist meant for. The extra slots will be removed after the CBT anyways, as are the extra slots you buy now - and the costs for those bought extra slots will be refunded. So how exactly can one feel ripped off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islacrusez Beta Tester 375 posts 920 battles Report post #56 Posted April 16, 2015 The extra slots will be removed after the CBT anyways, as are the extra slots you buy now - and the costs for those bought extra slots will be refunded. So how exactly can one feel ripped off? So if we don't want to pay WG to test their game for them, especially since we're the only server that has to? That doesn't feel a little wrong to you? As for refunds, that's an in-game gold refund, and we had to pay cash. That's not a refund, that's an exchange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
croshad Beta Tester 20 posts 9 battles Report post #57 Posted April 17, 2015 Why do people think the port slots will get reset. I can't for the life of me remember how it went in WoT beta but if they intend to reset every single thing in OBT that includes port slots as well, what possible reason could they have to limit port slots for us now ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Losqualo Beta Tester 92 posts 12,868 battles Report post #58 Posted April 17, 2015 So if we don't want to pay WG to test their game for them, especially since we're the only server that has to? That doesn't feel a little wrong to you? As for refunds, that's an in-game gold refund, and we had to pay cash. That's not a refund, that's an exchange. To be honest, it doesn't feel wrong for me. Even without paying anything you have enough slots to test every line of ships currently in game. If you want to keep a ship AND want to buy the next in line you have to pay real money (to get another slot), sure. But since everything will be reset before OBT anyways I really don't see the point to keep ships for further "testing". It also doesn't bother me if our servers are the only one that have to pay for extra slots, after 30 or more years of playing computer games one gets used to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrow222 Beta Tester 177 posts 4,408 battles Report post #59 Posted April 18, 2015 To be honest, it doesn't feel wrong for me. Even without paying anything you have enough slots to test every line of ships currently in game. If you want to keep a ship AND want to buy the next in line you have to pay real money (to get another slot), sure. But since everything will be reset before OBT anyways I really don't see the point to keep ships for further "testing". It also doesn't bother me if our servers are the only one that have to pay for extra slots, after 30 or more years of playing computer games one gets used to it. so if you grinded every line to tier 10 have fun with it then when you start loosing money and have no way to grind some money with lower tiers, + it doesnt change the fact that they gave 2/3 of the community 5 slots more and to the other 1/3 saying, you wanna have more slots? than buy some gold with real money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites