havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #1 Posted September 16, 2018 Naturally the guy that signed up in May and got more pvp games played than me in 3 years (35 games/day) has some ....... questionable stats. So he doesnt have a T10 yet ..... that will be probably another 600-800 ruined games at the atrocious speeds (even for a bot) this pile of human waste is grinding. And just to give some examples: Ofc WG cant figure out this is a bot. Ofc matches are becoming more and more boring unstoppable steamrolls by the weak - and ofc WG "cant figure out why" ...... I mean seriously? @MrConway maybe tell the developers to insert a line of code that after 100 games played if you have less than 10 times more avg. damage then the amount of games played, you get an auto ban? €: 2-8 k avg damage is still 400-500 avg exp? Non linear reward for the win! Clearly that bot deserves 400 and nearly twice the WR and 60.000 average doesnt even give 3 times that ...... 9 1 2 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapVogele Beta Tester 290 posts 3,590 battles Report post #2 Posted September 16, 2018 Tinfoil hat mode. has it ever occured to people that WG may be running these bots to keep the game populated? :o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #3 Posted September 16, 2018 If I go tinfoil hat mode than thats no a bot but WG staff like S_O. Also their co-op bots are already better than most people let alone this shite. If they would just let loose ops bots on crack and only put them on my side, I could easily breach 80 % WR. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #4 Posted September 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, PapVogele said: Tinfoil hat mode. has it ever occured to people that WG may be running these bots to keep the game populated? :o has it ever occurred to people that havaduck may be hired by WG to throw suspicion elsewhere? :o 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #5 Posted September 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, loppantorkel said: havaduck ...... be hired by WG 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #6 Posted September 16, 2018 I don't get it OP. You must be wearing you tinfoil hat. Get clear like I am: surely this is Skynet awakening! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #7 Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, loppantorkel said: has it ever occurred to people that havaduck may be hired by WG to throw suspicion elsewhere? :o nah, he's more likely to be a hired good for Gaijin or some other direct competitor. I mean, if we're just pulling things out of our behind (like claims about rate of steamroll games, given how if people who claimed this was the case, as they did in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, and somehow I bet will also do in 2019, we should be somewhere around 200% by now), why not go all the way? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #8 Posted September 16, 2018 2 hours ago, PapVogele said: Tinfoil hat mode. has it ever occured to people that WG may be running these bots to keep the game populated? :o Has it occurred to you that its screwing up the game and is contributing to the abysmal skill level that seems to be rife in most tiers now? 36 minutes ago, Ferry_25 said: I don't get it OP. You must be wearing you tinfoil hat. Get clear like I am: surely this is Skynet awakening! The Use of bots in random battles seems to be on the increase....should we take this as a sign that the player base is decreasing? I had 2 matches yesterday where bots (DD's) totally screwed the game for us as rather than spotting the oncoming wave of enemy players from the east they desided to go to the total opposite side and go on a sight seeing jolly for whatever reason there programmed to do? I Have to agree with @havaduck..... Seems strange to dismiss such an obvious issue at present, even when proof is posted.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-L-L] peoplescavalry Players 531 posts 13,011 battles Report post #9 Posted September 16, 2018 6 ships sunk in one battle? Well that’s a bit embarrassing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #10 Posted September 16, 2018 One would think that a bot would have better MBHR than 3% on NM 7 minutes ago, peoplescavalry said: 6 ships sunk in one battle? Well that’s a bit embarrassing. Retardbonus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #11 Posted September 16, 2018 Still, I blame the FdG for that match, since he was just as useful as that bot, but in the perfect position to make a difference the whole time. But... https://clips.twitch.tv/GenerousCourteousPoultryTheTarFu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #12 Posted September 16, 2018 Well given that most patterns in nature follow the (Gauss) curve for every super unicum there has to be an abyssmal "worse then coop bot" person, with a huge chunk of average potatoes inbetween no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #13 Posted September 16, 2018 4 hours ago, havaduck said: (...) €: 2-8 k avg damage is still 400-500 avg exp? Non linear reward for the win! Clearly that bot deserves 400 and nearly twice the WR and 60.000 average doesnt even give 3 times that ...... Stop posting my stats... There's a reason why they are hidden... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WJDE] orzel286 Beta Tester 555 posts 8,741 battles Report post #14 Posted September 16, 2018 TFW botter can afk his way up to tier 10 in about half the amount of games it will take me to tryhard my first tier 10 in coop. Why do I even bother... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malfuss Players 331 posts 3,572 battles Report post #15 Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, orzel286 said: TFW botter can afk his way up to tier 10 in about half the amount of games it will take me to tryhard my first tier 10 in coop. Why do I even bother... To be fair, it's your choice to limit your game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WJDE] orzel286 Beta Tester 555 posts 8,741 battles Report post #16 Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Malfuss said: To be fair, it's your choice to limit your game. Not my fault that the best game mode has the worst economy, duh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #17 Posted September 16, 2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spunyarn Players 533 posts Report post #18 Posted September 16, 2018 I find the contrast between the average values and the best values interesting; average damage of 8441 compared with a best of 165 111? and Average XP of 508 compared with a best of 3486? I mean I know people can have good games, but to do 19.5 times your average damage or 6.9 times your average XP? A bit of a contrast, almost as if it wasn't always the same thing controlling the ships on the account, like... perhaps and not accusing anyone ()... there was a bot grinding away with little success most of the time and someone sometimes actually playing the ships that bot had unlocked and doing much better. And that perhaps the contrast could be something to be looked for. And a second thing that I find interesting here is how it bears out @eliastion's theory of how many games should be won. He's suggested that 3 of 10 are certain defeat, 3 of 10 are certain victory, and the other 4 are the ones you can affect with your actions. So under that theory if "you suck but still play - you'll win 1 of these 4 and secure 40% winrate." and lo and behold the bot has 39.9% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #19 Posted September 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Yedwy said: Well given that most patterns in nature follow the (Gauss) curve for every super unicum there has to be an abyssmal "worse then coop bot" person, with a huge chunk of average potatoes inbetween no? With 35 games per day I think it's fair to assume that is indeed a bot grinder. I'd be hard pressed to believe that a person could play that many games over such a timeframe with these results and not have quit in a seething rage already (or without making lots of "OP dis, NURF dat" threads on the forum). The only anomaly would be that this account has at least one decent game under its belly, though I wouldn't think it too strange if the person behind the botting wouldn't play himself every now and then, if only to bump the stats up a bit. But there's always going to be bots like this around, especially in free-to-play, pay-to-skip business and grind models like WoWs. In that regard it's hardly anything surprising, though certainly frustrating when you end up with one of those on your team. The one thing I'm taking away from this topic is confirmation that you actually need to actively sabotage your teams to get a consistent below 40% winrate if effectually being AFK all games doesn't get you lower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #20 Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Aotearas said: The one thing I'm taking away from this topic is confirmation that you actually need to actively sabotage your teams to get a consistent below 40% winrate if effectually being AFK all games doesn't get you lower. Going AFK in a CV? You hardly see anyone ever having <40% solo WR in BB/CA/DD. CV, sure works. 3-man super glue eater division? Ive seen a Shima once with 17% Yes, more then a couple of games, think it was like close to hundred. Just go to wowsnumbers, sort shima ranking by WR, go to last place, look at 2-man WR (94 games 28,72% WR), 3-man div won 1 out of 22 . Not the one i mean, but that will do it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #21 Posted September 16, 2018 well if he chooses an important ship/class to be afk in its possible i guess just imagine 1-3 dds in a battle and one if them afk/bot in basically every match it is in, cv even more so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atorpad Players 669 posts 19,065 battles Report post #22 Posted September 16, 2018 Look at this !!! When bots do better than you !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnEvilJoke Players 1,647 posts 7,138 battles Report post #23 Posted September 16, 2018 23 hours ago, Mandalorianer said: Don't mind me, I'm just here for the "+1 Post Counter"... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #24 Posted September 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, Atorpad said: Look at this !!! When bots do better than you !!!! you mean, when almost all losing bots are beter than you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,373 battles Report post #25 Posted September 16, 2018 Well, just checked and over the last 4 months I have averaged 11.2 random battles per day I have been Playing since November 2015 (34 months or 1029 days (approximately)) and during that period have managed a total of 10229 all types of battles, therefore, my overall average is slightly less than 10 battles per day or approximately 3 hours playing time (this includes time waiting for battles) For someone to have an average of 35 battles per day, they either - play for approximately 10 hours or B get killed easily Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
