CV Rework Discussion

[Yedwy]

If you take out cv against one of the baguettes it will be a race of kill before he finds you and angle so he cant broadside you, all the slower BBs will have issues with even catching a cv

[Panocek]

4 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

One word - Gascogne 

 

32kt and a speed boost on top of that

28s reload on 15" ers

Short cooldown on the heal

Can float the fighter plane 

Gascan have BAD AA, something you actually can't say on Richy, packing 375+347dps on mid and short range, so actually might be able to net you ribbon or two. Also all guns forward, so you won't have to lose speed on turns to reveal rear gun.

 

4 minutes ago, Yoshanai said:

Noone cares about torps if you only get off 3 runs at max with heal doing maybe 20k dmg. While Richie in that time already covered 10km before your next wave arrives 

Richy torpedo belt isn't that bad either, at 35%

[Yedwy]

3 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Gascan have BAD AA, something you actually can't say on Richy, packing 375+347dps on mid and short range, so actually might be able to net you ribbon or two. Also all guns forward, so you won't have to lose speed on turns to reveal rear gun.

 

Richy torpedo belt isn't that bad either, at 35%

Yes but lets be honeat here one ship AA will hardly stop a cv in 1v1... If you predrop to 6 planes a group on E you will likekley lose 3-4 planes on a run max meaning you have 3 full runs with DB alone, gascogne is very fast I even sometimes run down CVs in randoms with it before they can bag me

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, Yedwy said:

Yes but lets be honeat here one ship AA will hardly stop a cv in 1v1... If you predrop to 6 planes a group on E you will likekley lose 3-4 planes on a run max meaning you have 3 full runs with DB alone

That is why I've wrote

4 minutes ago, Panocek said:

so actually might be able to net you ribbon or two

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

You don't even need French ones as Massa will also easily cover the distance before a CV can kill it. Even better torp belt. Near AP immunity. Fast heal. Badass AA and fighter 

[Allied_Winter]

5 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Yes but lets be honeat here one ship AA will hardly stop a cv in 1v1

Let's put it this way: quite a few enemies earned AA defense expert against me (almost no shoot downs came from fighters). And still I managed to sink all but one.

 

Funny thing is though: The 1v1 grants basically a First Blood for every victory :D

[Yedwy]

8 minutes ago, Yoshanai said:

You don't even need French ones as Massa will also easily cover the distance before a CV can kill it. Even better torp belt. Near AP immunity. Fast heal. Badass AA and fighter 

She is 10kt slower then Gascan though and thats alot, IDK if she will be able to hunt down a CV, depends on how big a map it will be and how many islands on it, it will be interesting to try though, however any BB presents itself with the what if you get the DD problem... It will be total lottery

[Allied_Winter]

Just now, Yedwy said:

IDK if she will be able to hunt down a CV sepends on how big a map it will be and how many islands on it

I'd say it depends on the CV being smart enough to use the islands that are given. I played ring around the rosie with one Massa yesterday ... 

[El2aZeR]

On a different note, Saipan may actually be a great choice due to her massive TB alpha.

She's going to be troublesome to field in a CV sniping duel tho.

[CptBarney]

Ill take lexi and failing that, charles martel or stealth monarch.

[mcboernester]

1 hour ago, El2aZeR said:

On a different note, Saipan may actually be a great choice due to her massive TB alpha.

She's going to be troublesome to field in a CV sniping duel tho.

Its a great Yoinker! 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 19 Minuten, mcboernester sagte:

Its a great Yoinker! 

5 kills but only 1.6k base exp... I see a professional killstealer was at work ★♡☆

[mtm78]

3 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

Last week's snapshot actually showed a slight decline in population.

We'll get new data tomorrow.

 

Looking forward, any small increase will likely be applauded as the definitive proof REEwork still is to be called a total success. 

 

 

[kosta73]

wtf are these games with 3 cv's. it is absolutely garbage. had now many of those at it completely ruins gameplay. max 2 is fine and preferred 1. 

You really should do something to this issue. 

[DFens_666]

4 hours ago, Yoshanai said:

CV pop has risen big time. Looks like everyone loves the rework ★

 

WG: You need special tokens mostly available through directives to get special containers so you can get the special italian commander

Also WG: Lets put class restricted mission in every stage so people have to/will play CVs too

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 5 Minuten, DFens_666 sagte:

 

WG: You need special tokens mostly available through directives to get special containers so you can get the special italian commander

Also WG: Lets put class restricted mission in every stage so people have to/will play CVs too

WG knows what most truly want so of course they will support them to out themselves and play CV proudly ★♡☆

[Sunleader]

14 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

 

Looking forward, any small increase will likely be applauded as the definitive proof REEwork still is to be called a total success. 

 

 

 

Thats unlikely at this Point. Because the Increase is just Relative to the Prior Position of Recently.

Compared to older Numbers the CV Population is basicly RTS Levels. And the Increase we a few Weeks ago is something I would more likely Attribute to the Second Part of the Italian Cruiser Event Starting.

There is CV Missions in there. So the People who got CVs will be Inclined to use them to get that Mission.

And lately alot of the Missions are Heavily Favoring CVs due to Requiring Hits rather than Damage or Requiring Spotting etc.

 

Any Mission to Spot X Ships is basicly an Invite for CVs because they can easily get 10 or more of that each Match.

Any Mission to get Torpedo Hits rather than Torpedo Damage means that a CV can easily get 10-20 per Match.

 

And you can actually notice that WG is giving the CVs Preferential Treatment here.

Because the CV Aimed Missions tend to be Limited to CVs.

So while the Mission to get Torpedo Hits, Flooding and Fires. Seems to be mostly Geared towards DDs and Cruisers. CVs are Allowed in there.

But the Mission to get Torpedo Hits, Bomb Hits and Rocket Hits is from the Start Limited to CVs so a DD getting Torpedo Hits will not count towards them.

 

 

It was the Same for all the Event Directives so far. Be it the Savage Event or the French DD Event. I have in all of them basicly done 4 out of 6 of the Directives Purely on CV. And sometimes even all 6 on CV.....

Simply because by doing the one CV Specific Goal for Earning Exp in that Class.

Meanwhile I often had to Play 2 other Classes through the Exp or Money Goals of their Respective Class before I actually started Finishing some of the Remaining Directives.

 

Which is not Surprising really. Its way harder getting Torpedo Hits with a DD than with a CV.

And Setting Fires with a CV is way easier than even with a HE Spamming Cruiser.

 

 

Thanks to that. On each Event the CV Population gets a Small but Time Limited Raise in Population which then Instantly Drops again when People Finished the Directives...

[mtm78]

Me: single line remark pointing out the falsity of someone claiming a 'sudden huge rise in CV population' indicating 'nothing is wrong here guys, nothing to see, rework complete and utter success'. 

 

Sunleader:

7 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

Thats unlikely at this Point. < FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER HUGE WALL OF TEXT > 

 

Yeah Sun, the one liner was meant to be 'captain obvious' aware, sorry

 

[rnat]

3 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

On a different note, Saipan may actually be a great choice due to her massive TB alpha.

She seems to work nicely so far. Lex struggled way more in my experience.

[Rionnen_marksman]

Listen guys, NO BB will be able to chase a CV down 1v1 unless it’s on Ocean. The cv knows where you are, you do not know where it is. 

 

Sorry to burst your bubble, but no. It just won’t happen

[BLUB__BLUB]

3 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

On a different note, Saipan may actually be a great choice due to her massive TB alpha.

She's going to be troublesome to field in a CV sniping duel tho.

Ramming flag here we come...

[Allied_Winter]

3 minutes ago, Rionnen_marksman said:

NO BB will be able to chase a CV down 1v1

Richelieu and Massa will be able to do so. On any map. 

[Rionnen_marksman]

Just now, Allied_Winter said:

Richelieu and Massa will be able to do so. On any map. 

They start what... 30KM away? Have to navigate around islands whilst the CV is moving in the opposite direction / around islands differently because they know exactly where the bb is? 

 

Tell you what, if I’m on tonight why don’t we go into a training room and try it? 

[HassenderZerhacker]

just coming out of another battle with 6 carriers... my poor Kaiser shot down 36 airplanes before being torped to death by the redline huggers

[Allied_Winter]

4 minutes ago, Rionnen_marksman said:

They start what... 30KM away?

You do know the 1v1 was referring to the upcoming Ranked Sprint at T8 that's 1v1? And in that case, no because 1v1 Ranked is played on smaller maps.

 

Here's a screenshot from spawns:

 

And here's a screenshot from a CV's POV (against a poor, helpless cruiser)