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4 hours ago, Excavatus said:

Q: How healthy is DD vs CV interaction? This is obviously a huge problem in competitive and one of many reasons why teams have voted to ban them from KOTS. How is a DD supposed to fulfill any of their typical duties when a CV has decided that they shouldn't?

 

A: It's quite ok in randoms, less so in competitive, when highly coordinated play kicks in (and that's why CVs haven't yet appeared in Clan Wars). Problem is there, we know about it, but since, as I stated in another answer, we love to fix things instead of imposing additional limitations, we're actively looking for a ways to make it more healthy and bring CVs back to Clan Wars.

 

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One would think in a less coordinated gamemode it would be even more of an issue.

I mean if it is a problem at the competitive peak, how can it not be everywhere else?

 

4 hours ago, Excavatus said:

Q: Will there ever be any ship locks for removed ships in competitive modes? ie. No Enterprise for the t8 clan brawl and any other future comp events?

 

A: Highly unlikely. Our general approach is that when something doesn't work as intended -> we prefer to fix it, rather then ban it. Ofc there are notable premium exceptions, but nothing at this point looks scary enough to warrant such drastic measures.

 

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Well :etc_swear:, a T10 CV in disguise at T8, capable of keeping up with THE best T10 CV by far, isn't scary enough? Alrighty then.

 

4 hours ago, Excavatus said:
Q: How intent is the wargaming dev team on adding aircraft carriers to clan battles? Is it a guarantee at this point that it will inevitably happen, or is it still up in the air (no pun intended)? Even with the proposed minimap only spotting changes, everything I have seen leads me to believe that the reaction of the entirety of the playerbase to having aircraft carriers in clan battles would be overwhelmingly negative.
 
A: We're actively testing it, so our desire to let them in is quite strong. But no final decisions at this point that I can share.

 

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6 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

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One would think in a less coordinated gamemode it would be even more of an issue.

I mean if it is a problem at the competitive peak, how can it not be everywhere else?

 

 

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Well :etc_swear:, a T10 CV in disguise at T8, capable of keeping up with THE best T10 CV by far, isn't scary enough? Alrighty then.

 

 

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Q: weegee will you be planning anymore cvs this year?

 

A: Sure fam take a look.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CVN-65)

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Bear_Necessities said:

Nope! All me. :fish_cute_2:

Oh man. Good. I was just imagining having BOTH you and the Masterrr @El2aZeR in a CV.... and me being in a BB on the opposite side.

I think I need a drink now. Also, because I have discovered playing T6 isn't safe anymore either... :Smile_hiding:

 

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34 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

One would think in a less coordinated gamemode it would be even more of an issue.

I mean if it is a problem at the competitive peak, how can it not be everywhere else?

 

Because comrade, the average CV player is too trash to do anything worthwhile*!

10/10 rework, skill gap confirmed to be narrowed despite every argument indicating otherwise!

*EDIT: By worthwhile, I mean to actually strike destroyers and/or keeping them spotted. Who knew that using rocket planes is so hard that only super-unicums can do it?

 

It gets even more laughable when one considers that WG allow carriers in ranked, a supposedly competitive gamemode with fewer players per game than in random battles (thus greater impact for the CV).

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2 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

Now we are talking!

 

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I'd add hydro buoys you could drop on parachute into water, preferably into smoke. You can't have radar picket aircraft with radar on cooldown camrade.

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Just now, Panocek said:

I'd add hydro buoys you could drop on parachute into water, preferably into smoke. You can't have radar picket aircraft with radar on cooldown camrade.

 

I like the way to think, sir!

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6 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

I like the way to think, sir!

The best/worst part is, I can imagine WG doing just that, unarmed squadron, or even single plane with radar, hydro and other such nonsense as answer to "CV cannot into teamwork" complaints.

 

On second thought... disable 3d spotting, something WG tests anyway already and replace useless Combat Air Patrol with Spotter Plane - provides actual spotting and dispersion bonus when firing at ships spotted by it. Here, teamwork fixed camrades :cap_book:

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7 minutes ago, Panocek said:

The best/worst part is, I can imagine WG doing just that, unarmed squadron, or even single plane with radar, hydro and other such nonsense as answer to "CV cannot into teamwork" complaints.

Maybe smoke as well.

 

Makes me wonder what subs will be like.

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I will just post this midway here...he died in last minute :)

it is never the ship...it is the captain no matter how ship is good or bad

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13 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

One would think in a less coordinated gamemode it would be even more of an issue.

 

First i wanted to add that 95% of all cvs in randoms are super bad but then i was like "wait, what about those squall clans, wont they suck too?" Now im unsure :fish_nerv:

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2 hours ago, mcboernester said:

First i wanted to add that 95% of all cvs in randoms are super bad but then i was like "wait, what about those squall clans, wont they suck too?" Now im unsure :fish_nerv:

When the CVs finally make appereance in Clan Wars, and I'm sure they will be,

It will never be the same. CV captain will probably the deciding factor..

I'm thinking full team push on the double cap side, 2 dds in front.. and CV scouting infront of the DDs..

 

It will either a great stalemate, or a roflstomp.

 

As a man who can see future, I congradulate myself recruiting more than a couple deep purple CV players into the clan :)
They'll carry us into the victory...

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Is it only me, or really has the CV-flood in low-tiers got even worse with 8.10? Any T4 match I played yesterday were 3 CV each side - makes the experience for other classes truly miserable.

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IMHO the T4 CV issue is so prevalent that its best not to play any ship below T6 at the moment, of you are (re)grinding some lines just use freexp or do it in coop...

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12 minutes ago, optimal_909 said:

Is it only me, or really has the CV-flood in low-tiers got even worse with 8.10? Any T4 match I played yesterday were 3 CV each side - makes the experience for other classes truly miserable.

 

I think the area around T4 is turning belly up. More and more people just quit playing that tier with surface ships thus increasing the percentage of CVs, which makes the experiance for the remaining players even worse, so more ppl are tempted to quit... and so on. I quit playing T4, which I always liked. And becoming part of the problem aka playing CV myself is not really what I want to do to other players. Although it might the one thing forcing WG to finaly do something about it - everyone queing up in a T4 Cv.

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Thing is.. 

WG considers cvs to be balanced. And especially for T4 cvs it is not the case. Hosho is as op as Haku was in 8. 0.

Yeah it sucks. But if you have an op ship like gulio Cesare you can hunt cvs down at least if they are stupid. I don't really like playing T4 as it provides no fun with 3 CVs. It would be much better if they only allowed one cv per game. That would be a good step. If they want 3 CVs per side they need to tune down their performance. 

But tbh I think they just want to make the CV's attractive to new players. That's why they don't want to change them.... 

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1 hour ago, optimal_909 said:

Is it only me, or really has the CV-flood in low-tiers got even worse with 8.10? Any T4 match I played yesterday were 3 CV each side - makes the experience for other classes truly miserable.

Yesterday I tried T4 Hermes to see if the Swordfish are different than on T6  Ark Royal.

IMO they are, but the most "impressing" was the absolute idiocy of the CV players. 

Reminded me of CO-OP where they all go in like Pirañas on a piece of meat. 

Or something like this:

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This is not even funny anymore for the CV players (might be if you have Hosho and like Black Friday shopping). 

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Just now, Bear_Necessities said:

Im my opinion it lasted far longer than it should have.

True, i wonder who deleted it doe?

 

Was about to post a huge risastas laugh comp lol in there and get yoshi and assaka to start doing their thing. :Smile_trollface:

 

Also called him a Cv player so he would saw that and i got the last laugh.

 

had years of practice with that typing out long insults very quickly in world of tanks at the last second with no way to reply :Smile_trollface::Smile_trollface:


 

On topic:

 

So i want yorkie, den german cv's den french ones. Oh and can we have captain with special AA tracers and effects as well?

 

Could be a cool little effect.

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