CV Rework Discussion

[CptBarney]

1 minute ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Someone liked this picture better so I adjusted for my fans ☆♡☆

I loike dah other piccy doe....

 

 

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Hmm i wonder if i should make another custom cv design. Speaking of which i just found a noice russian cv they could use!

 

 

 

[El2aZeR]

6 hours ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said:

For a strong counterplayer it generally still isnt too much of a problem if they run into a strong CV as they'll know how to use their AA, how to position etc.

 

Against a skilled CV player:

- AA sector reinforcement is worthless as a mechanic

- DFAA is worthless

- any kind of positioning that is not completely out in the open is automatically advantageous to a CV player

- sailing out in the open is advantageous to a CV player

- shutting off AA is largely worthless

 

As such there is no counterplay against CVs. Any kind of counterplay that "works" is entirely the fault of the CV player, what a surface ship does plays no part whatsoever.

 

6 hours ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said:

The class is strong damgewise, though not quite as strong as before the rework

 

 

No, it is as strong if not outright stronger than before the rework.

Basic example:

Spoiler

 

Which brings me to another point which is likely going to be unpopular:

Shokaku compares very favorably to Enterprise. Since Enterprise was deemed overpowered enough to be taken out of the premium store Shokaku must be nerfed.

[KillStealBoss]

On 9/19/2019 at 12:39 PM, mtm78 said:

 

Nah, I don't see FR DD's with 50mm plating on them.

 

Also, I have a hard time dodging CV's in my Frenchies when speedboost is off. With it on they dodge like pro's but when it's down you're pretty much getting hit every strike... well I am ;)

That's why you take boost module for coal to extend the time it's on. 

[KillStealBoss]

2 hours ago, CptBarney said:

I loike dah other piccy doe....

 

 

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Hmm i wonder if i should make another custom cv design. Speaking of which i just found a noice russian cv they could use!

 

 

 

It looks like a RN CV... 

[mtm78]

14 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

That's why you take boost module for coal to extend the time it's on. 

Duh but those are on CM and the tier 9, on my Khaba and I think my grozo..

 

I don't have enuff coal damnit

[CptBarney]

18 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

It looks like a RN CV... 

Wargaming:

 

[citizen_smith79]

Does the number of CV's drop when you get to tier 5 or higher? I'm at tier 3 & 4 ATm and getting farmed by planes in every damned game, not fun btw. :( 

[Sunleader]

5 minutes ago, citizen_smith79 said:

Does the number of CV's drop when you get to tier 5 or higher? I'm at tier 3 & 4 ATm and getting farmed by planes in every damned game, not fun btw. :( 

 

T4 CVs are Limited on max 3 per Team.

T6 CVs are 2 per Team.

T8 and T10 are 1 per Team.

 

Limits are Soft however.

So if MM lacks non CV Players it will throw Double CV Games even in T8 and above.

 

If your asking if you get more Games without CV then Answer is no.

After WG Nerfed AA to oblivion in 0.8.7 you should Expect to have a CV in every Game.

 

Games without CV have become fairly rare and will likely get even less common if AA is not Buffed.

[citizen_smith79]

9 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

 

T4 CVs are Limited on max 3 per Team.

T6 CVs are 2 per Team.

T8 and T10 are 1 per Team.

 

Limits are Soft however.

So if MM lacks non CV Players it will throw Double CV Games even in T8 and above.

 

If your asking if you get more Games without CV then Answer is no.

After WG Nerfed AA to oblivion in 0.8.7 you should Expect to have a CV in every Game.

 

Games without CV have become fairly rare and will likely get even less common if AA is not Buffed.

Oh that doesn't sound too good then, I can get farmed on all tiers. :(  Any idea if they're going to do something to help with AA, as in make it actually shoot pidgeons down?

[Sunleader]

6 minutes ago, citizen_smith79 said:

Oh that doesn't sound too good then, I can get farmed on all tiers. :(  Any idea if they're going to do something to help with AA, as in make it actually shoot pidgeons down?

 

WG refused to make a Statement on this.

But seeing that this Topic is not a Sticky anymore.

I would not Expect any Noteworthy changes in the immediate future.

 

 

[citizen_smith79]

Oh well, at least I know not to bother trying to get up the tiers in any hurry now.

 

Thanks for answering my questions Sunleader. :D

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 12 Stunden, citizen_smith79 sagte:

Oh well, at least I know not to bother trying to get up the tiers in any hurry now.

 

Thanks for answering my questions Sunleader. :D

You will want to go up the tiers once you realise that CV hell is low tier ☆♡☆

[KillStealBoss]

13 hours ago, Sunleader said:

T8 and T10 are 1 per Team.

 

Yesterday I had T7-9 game and 2 T8 CVs on each team. There was a lot CVs on queue.

[Panocek]

21 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

You will want to go up the tiers once you realise that CV hell is low tier ☆♡☆

And then you can get EXTRA spanked by AP bombs of Enterprise

[Sunleader]

46 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

Yesterday I had T7-9 game and 2 T8 CVs on each team. There was a lot CVs on queue.

 

14 hours ago, Sunleader said:

 

Limits are Soft however.

So if MM lacks non CV Players it will throw Double CV Games even in T8 and above.

 

 

:)

 

Dont laugh. Late at Night last week I had a Battle with 2xT6 and 1xT8 CV on each Side. And 3 yes you heard that right. 3 Surface Ships on each Team xD

 

 

Unfortunately I fear Double T8 CV Games will become far more Common again thanks to how Overpowered they are right now :(

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 51 Minuten, Sunleader sagte:

 

 

:)

 

Dont laugh. Late at Night last week I had a Battle with 2xT6 and 1xT8 CV on each Side. And 3 yes you heard that right. 3 Surface Ships on each Team xD

 

 

Unfortunately I fear Double T8 CV Games will become far more Common again thanks to how Overpowered they are right now :(

The more the better

 

 

[CptBarney]

23 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

The more the better

 

 

Unless the other smoll carrier out dpm’s you then rest in very toineh pieces indeed!

 

also where did that ishy person go?

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 6 Minuten, CptBarney sagte:

Unless the other smoll carrier out dpm’s you then rest in very toineh pieces indeed!

 

also where did that ishy person go?

What ishy person??? ♡☆♡

 

@Ishiro32?? 

[CptBarney]

2 hours ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

What ishy person??? ♡☆♡

 

@Ishiro32?? 

Yeah dat one.

 

Might play ryujo see if i cant get to miss shopaku before long.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 5 Minuten, CptBarney sagte:

Yeah dat one.

 

Might play ryujo see if i cant get to miss shopaku before long.

I don't know why but I hate playing shokek I free exped to Haku fast

[CptBarney]

2 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

I don't know why but I hate playing shokek I free exped to Haku fast

I hate miss ryujo atm, just want to bin her even if i have been managing over 100k damage games and 4 kill+ games in her (most of my games have been higher tier so far)

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 3 Minuten, CptBarney sagte:

I hate miss ryujo atm, just want to bin her even if i have been managing over 100k damage games and 4 kill+ games in her (most of my games have been higher tier so far)

I just think the bomb rng is very shitty on ryujo and shokaku. Flying to target for 1min just to drop for 2 overpens and losing 4 planes is really frustrating. 

[CptBarney]

1 minute ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

I just think the bomb rng is very shitty on ryujo and shokaku. Flying to target for 1min just to drop for 2 overpens and losing 4 planes is really frustrating. 

Ikr, i hate the ap bombs on ryujo does my head-in when i get a decent aim and wargaming gibs 25% rng and the middle finger and your bombes either hit and do over-pens or bloody miss.

 

I know making them more accurate would be op but then at least it would reward skill more (i mean wargaming is fine with op cv's apprently so whatever lol). Torps are ok on ryujo but i need to start at 4.6km+ just to aim properly (similar to miss lexi), rockets idk there fine (i dont even know why they have those rather just have torp bombers, dive bombers and medium/heavy bombers for cv's, maybe stafe bombers as well).

[Sunleader]

Is anyone Surprised that CVs will not just Spot Subs at roughly same range as DDs but will also easily do damage to them on Periscope Depth?

 

I am not.....

[Aixin]

Vor 1 Minute, Sunleader sagte:

Is anyone Surprised that CVs will not just Spot Subs at roughly same range as DDs but will also easily do damage to them on Periscope Depth?

 

I am not.....

Its for the bbies:) subs would be to strong if they could only be flighted by dd's. Babies would lose their position as the alpha predetor.someone needs to kill all dangerous threads for babies so they can be happy and farm damage on each other. :)