[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #9251 Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, mtm78 said: Ow but I told many times already that I will not play this game when they put submarines in pvp. It just will not happen. And I think it will happen. And then another 6 months of hotfix, rebalancing etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #9252 Posted September 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: And I think it will happen. And then another 6 months of hotfix, rebalancing etc. I fear it will happen to, I never indicated otherwise. I'm just not going to take part if making DD gameplay again more complicated while BB's get more and more diapers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UAC] Filipin00 Players 662 posts 2,569 battles Report post #9253 Posted September 9, 2019 Am I going crazy or are ALL premium carriers removed from sale??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9254 Posted September 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Filipin00 said: Am I going crazy or are ALL premium carriers removed from sale??? I'm afraid not. ALL premium carriers gone. @Crysantos @MrConway @Sehales What the heck is going on? Tier 9 premiums except Friesland are also gone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #9255 Posted September 9, 2019 Vor 37 Minuten, mtm78 sagte: Ow but I told many times already that I will not play this game when they put submarines in pvp. It just will not happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UAC] Filipin00 Players 662 posts 2,569 battles Report post #9256 Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, Panocek said: I'm afraid not. ALL premium carriers gone. I'm not worried, I bought Kaga and GZ before I'm good, but for what reason? I hope it's for the balancing reason!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #9257 Posted September 9, 2019 Wait are the tier 9 premiums gone as well as all the CV premiums? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #9258 Posted September 9, 2019 Finally, REEwork was a fail, and CV's will be removed next patch 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #9259 Posted September 9, 2019 Wow first Enterprise and now all cvs are gone from premium shop.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #9260 Posted September 9, 2019 They are deleting CV's they are doing it GUUUUUUYS 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9261 Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said: They are deleting CV's they are doing it GUUUUUUYS Lemme get some nice round numbers on them for memorial purposes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #9262 Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Panocek said: Lemme get some nice round numbers on them for memorial purposes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DIOR] artic_99 Players 651 posts 63 battles Report post #9263 Posted September 9, 2019 Really?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UAC] Filipin00 Players 662 posts 2,569 battles Report post #9264 Posted September 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said: They are deleting CV's they are doing it GUUUUUUYS Alright. Then I want my money back for Kaga and GZ I paid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace42X Players 312 posts Report post #9265 Posted September 9, 2019 15 hours ago, mtm78 said: Sure I can upload some Blyskawica games, or Guepard games or Vaquelin where I been almost constantly spotted when there are enemies in my range, because I'm herrasing them from ranges where I can dodge them No smoke in the Blyskawica? Like, at all? No speed-boosts on the Guepard or Vaquelin to help maintain a good position? You absolute madman. As I said, I've had games perma spotted in my Pod and tanked a ton, but I did actually make use of my consumables to stay alive while I was doing so. Quote There is a difference in CHOOSING to do so because you need it to fulfill your intended role in the game, and being forced to do so by others while also makes your contribution to the team worthless. So your comparison is as bad as it can be thank you very much. Special pleading. Running and hiding in order to survive, and thus later ambush ships / spot / cap isn't different, in that respect. Quote "You didn't think" doesn't mean much to me, as it's exactly what people got from your post. What was written, and what the words literally mean, is less important to the posters here than a flimsy excuse to get on a high horse and be antagonistic elitists? No crap, not like we could figure that out by the shameless and fallacious attempts at stat-shaming literally any time someone challenges forumite orthodoxy. Quote I am not going into those discussions with hidden profiles, history has taught us it's a dangerous route to take. If history has taught you that ad hominem fallacies should form the basis of your argumentation, you've drawn the wrong lesson from it. But thanks for wasting both of our time by starting on this route when no-one asked you to, and then announcing you weren't going to anymore like you can't just - you know, stop typing and spare me the unwarranted condescension? Quote And they don't, which is why... ... you're salty and taking it out on me even though my comment has absolutely no bearing on this whatsoever, and wasn't an invitation for you to unpack your issues with the game onto me? Quote Maybe you should not try to focus on what you perceive to be ad-hominem, but on having actual arguments which hold up under even the slightest of scrutiny. Maybe you should familiarise yourself with informal logic before trying to brush off a core and reoccurring fallacy within your post, in the same breath as insisting someone else has a problem with argumentation. I mean, really, you might be good at playing this game (or not, I can't say I care either way), but if you can't even see the difference in meaning between "you're playing the wrong class" and "you're playing the class wrong", you're in no position to criticise my argumentation. That charge would have more credibility coming from someone who hasn't demonstrated a fundamental misunderstanding of what has actually been said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9266 Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, Filipin00 said: Alright. Then I want my money back for Kaga and GZ I paid 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #9267 Posted September 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, mtm78 said: Finally, REEwork was a fail, and CV's will be removed next patch Don't worry subs will arrive to replace the pain for you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #9268 Posted September 9, 2019 Ill be honest and say I stopped playing CVs a while back since they seemed to do very poorly, you could barely get an attack in without losing all your planes. Now however I think CVs are finally in a good spot. I dont have issues with them while playing other ships, if youre careful and manouvre and learn how to use sectors etc you can negate a lot of their damage. While at the same time even tier 8 CVs can do very well in tier 10 matches now. Shokaku is borderline overpowered at this point. Honestly the survivability is fine but I wouldnt say no to maybe tone down the AP bomb damage a tad. I shouldnt be able to take 80% of an Ibukis hp in one strike, its too easy and too difficult to dodge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #9269 Posted September 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, Ace42X said: <snip> More personal attacks, it's delicious all that salt from you.... 39 minutes ago, Ace42X said: even though my comment has absolutely no bearing on this whatsoever You didn't state DD players shouldn't be complaining about having to hide, because it was core gameplay? Need me to quote you again on that? And it's the most [edited] argument ever, because a DD lining up a torpedo attack CHOOSES to 'hide' ( or not even hide, just be stealthy WHILE DOING ITS JOB ). Can't be more simple as that. So spare me your victim hood, I'm not impressed. You are the one who used ad hominem attacks on people complaining about CV interaction with destroyers, not me. As to the rest, as I said I shouldn't even be arguing with the likes of you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[4PHUN] Aixin Players 1,084 posts 7,420 battles Report post #9270 Posted September 9, 2019 Vor 9 Minuten, Floofz sagte: Ill be honest and say I stopped playing CVs a while back since they seemed to do very poorly, you could barely get an attack in without losing all your planes. Now however I think CVs are finally in a good spot. I dont have issues with them while playing other ships, if youre careful and manouvre and learn how to use sectors etc you can negate a lot of their damage. While at the same time even tier 8 CVs can do very well in tier 10 matches now. Shokaku is borderline overpowered at this point. Honestly the survivability is fine but I wouldnt say no to maybe tone down the AP bomb damage a tad. I shouldnt be able to take 80% of an Ibukis hp in one strike, its too easy and too difficult to dodge. bombs stay very trollish you need some look to get three citadels on an ibuki that is activly dodging if he sails straight in a line he derserves it. also lexington also can do 20k he bomb dmg:D btw i dev striked an (afk) ibuki in my enterprise:D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Crysantos WG Staff 3,754 posts 17,659 battles Report post #9271 Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Panocek said: I'm afraid not. ALL premium carriers gone. @Crysantos @MrConway @Sehales What the heck is going on? Tier 9 premiums except Friesland are also gone... We applied some changes to the Premium shop, so we had to cycle some offers in the background - the CVs are back ;) Greetings, Crysantos 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #9272 Posted September 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Karotte_marksman said: bombs stay very trollish you need some look to get three citadels on an ibuki that is activly dodging if he sails straight in a line he derserves it. also lexington also can do 20k he bomb dmg:D btw i dev striked an (afk) ibuki in my enterprise:D Yea, I also took 28k on a Stalingrad that was camping a corner, took him from half hp to dead in one strike. And thats in a tier 8 CV. God I hope they dont nerf it its hilarious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #9273 Posted September 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Crysantos said: We applied some changes to the Premium shop, so we had to cycle some offers in the background - the CVs are back ;) Can you cycle them again, maybe replace them with Kutuzov, Belfast, Imperator and Gremlin? I'm asking for a friend really, as I already have them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Crysantos WG Staff 3,754 posts 17,659 battles Report post #9274 Posted September 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, mtm78 said: Can you cycle them again, maybe replace them with Kutuzov, Belfast, Imperator and Gremlin? I'm asking for a friend really, as I already have them Nice try 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9275 Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Crysantos said: Nice try Its not like live server turned into proving grounds, so why the heck not salt coming from "I've bought Kutuzov because its supposed to be OP and yet it fails flat" would be first grade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
